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Ford focus 07 keyless entry question

  • 01-06-2009 09:18PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭


    Hi there all

    I just purchased a 07 ford focus with keyless ignition and entry .

    I have a quick question .

    If I lock the car with the remote alll is fine but once I approach with the fob in my pocket if I try open the car it opens so I do not have to click unlock on the fob .....

    Tried it without the fob in my pocket and sure thing it remains locked is this normal operation for this ?

    Thanks in advance


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,726 ✭✭✭maidhc


    What else should it do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,979 ✭✭✭445279.ie


    glomar wrote: »
    once I approach with the fob in my pocket if I try open the car it opens so I do not have to click unlock on the fob .....

    That's what it's supposed to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,488 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    That is what keyless entry is. The car detects the fob in your pocket within a certain distance from the car and unlocks the car. If the fob is not within range then the car doesn't unlock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    Thats pretty much it. AFAIK Your body completed the connection between the key and the car (or some sort of black magic!!!). You can also lock the car with the key in your pocket by pressing the little black rubber button on the door handle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭glomar


    thanks guys thought I was going mad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭mumblin deaf ro


    Your user manula should explain how the keyless entry works - you can deactivate it also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Your user manula should explain how the keyless entry works - you can deactivate it also.
    I've used that Ford system a lot for the last 3 years and I'm fairly certain it can't be deactivated, as the signal to the doors is the same one that allows you to start the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭glomar


    So just confirming


    The car will unlock itself automaticaly if I have the fob in my pocket and I try opening the door .... so the unlock button on the fob is pretty pointless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭sk8board


    glomar wrote: »
    So just confirming


    The car will unlock itself automaticaly if I have the fob in my pocket and I try opening the door .... so the unlock button on the fob is pretty pointless

    well, yes and no; if you hold the unloock button for a few seconds all the doors/boot will unlock and all the windows will come down (visa versa with the close button). Never quite figured out why the windows need to come down, but got a great laugh from a friend doing the same on a wet day with her convertible 3-series, and the top came down.

    ours is an '07 too, and I realised just last weekend that if you open the boot to put stuff in, and throw your coat (with the fob in the pocket) into the back seat via the boot, that the boot won't close. It will close and then pop open again to let you know the other doors are still locked.

    All round its a great system. Its simple and it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭glomar


    cheers for that buddy so the thing weill open if I am in proximity


    This had me thrown for while was convinced that there was something wrong

    cheers for you help on this feeling a bit more secure about the motor instead of pondering about it all the time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 omurchu21


    hi this car is bad news , the 2007 keyless system is faulty it cost me over 1,100 euros last year to get it fixed . it drains the battery and you now your ****ed bye bye 1,100 euros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭kirving


    €1,100 for a drained battery? Hardly.

    Ford door locks can be tempermental alright, but I'm guessing Ford just swapped out the lot rather than try to diagnose a difficult problem.

    FWIW, manual Focus locks stoped working on me. Changing the battery didn't help, but once I cleaned the contacts on the key with a cotton but and some superfine sandpaper, it worked perfectly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 omurchu21


    sorry not just the battery, handle- door, housing-lockyl, wire-assy, switch-assy,
    ignition-coil it was in 3 time so labour too and 4 new batterys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 DIYalot


    omurchu21 wrote: »
    hi this car is bad news , the 2007 keyless system is faulty it cost me over 1,100 euros last year to get it fixed . it drains the battery and you now your ****ed bye bye 1,100 euros

    Can confirm that. 2007, 1.4LX keyless entry starts draining the battery, intermittently so you think it's the battery at first and get that replaced. Been back to dealer who couldn't find a fault. I found this thread on boards so I pulled the fuse for the keyless system and hey presto the battery is fine now. We now manually use the key for the door and use a fob for the ignition barrel. I've just put a new alternator in this weekend because original failed at 100 ,000 km. I hate this piece of tack crap mobile and cannot wait to get rid of it, it's just constantly costing money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 cocobean


    We have had this ongoing issue for the past 4 months. Brought it to the garage who confirmed that something was draining the battery but didn't know what. Spoke with a ford service man over the weekend and he confirmed that it is more than likely the keyless entry if the car is a 07, which it is.

    He mentioned that we can change the system over to regular key use. Should Ford not have recalled this as a problem I wonder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭martinr5232


    cocobean wrote:
    He mentioned that we can change the system over to regular key use. Should Ford not have recalled this as a problem I wonder.


    If its not a safety issue or going to cost them money ie cause more damage while under warranty manufacturers wont recall vehicles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    cocobean wrote: »
    We have had this ongoing issue for the past 4 months. Brought it to the garage who confirmed that something was draining the battery but didn't know what. Spoke with a ford service man over the weekend and he confirmed that it is more than likely the keyless entry if the car is a 07, which it is.

    He mentioned that we can change the system over to regular key use. Should Ford not have recalled this as a problem I wonder.

    Have you tried looking up solutions/workarounds?
    The only system I have any insight on uses sensors in the door handle as a trigger to kick of the sequence of authentication/unlock/prime fuelpump/glowplugs/whatever.

    I don't know if Ford use a similar system or if it is purely proximity based or whatever - do you keep your main keys or spare keys near the car overnight - eg in the hall or other room with the car parked outside? Try moving your keys as far as possible from the car overnight. Putting them in closed metal tin may also work to block the signals between key and car.

    There is also the standard IT solution - have you tried turning it off and on again? If you have any codes and know how needed to get radios / handsfree etc working again it would be worth disconnecting the negative battery lead for twenty minutes then reconnecting. Be careful to have a set of keys outside the car in case anything weird happens with locks.

    These would be the things I'd try if I was in that situation and owner forums hadn't turned up more specific advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭dutopia


    Just don't forget, it won't automatically lock. This Focus model has a double locking mode as well - a single click of the lock button will lock the doors and a second press of it will arm the alarm (the lights will flash to indicate the alarm is now armed). You can lock the car with someone inside the car with the single press, but don't with the second press or they'll set the alarm off by moving or trying to open the door.

    Also, the central locking locks the fuel filler cap, FYI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 cocobean


    cocobean wrote: »
    We have had this ongoing issue for the past 4 months. Brought it to the garage who confirmed that something was draining the battery but didn't know what. Spoke with a ford service man over the weekend and he confirmed that it is more than likely the keyless entry if the car is a 07, which it is.

    He mentioned that we can change the system over to regular key use. Should Ford not have recalled this as a problem I wonder.

    Just popping back in onto this thread to say that we had the keyless entry issue fixed at a cost of 200euro. No dead battery since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 DIYalot


    cocobean wrote: »
    Just popping back in onto this thread to say that we had the keyless entry issue fixed at a cost of 200euro. No dead battery since.

    Great stuff, thats the cheapest i've heard. What was the solution? And can you pm me their details if they are on the east coast?

    Cheers


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