Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Off licences and draconian closing times

1234568»

Comments

  • #212
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    Nobody on the other side of the debate has said anything remotely convincing.

    I've conceded that an extension on the weekend and getting rid of the 12.30 start on Sunday would be a good compromise.

    People on here are more interested in "winning" the argument than trying to come up with solutions or compromises that might work.

    Nobody on your side of the debate has said much to convince me either. Add in all the thanks whoring, and I'm not pushed to put in a big effort to convince you.


  • #213
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    What time do they close anyway ?


  • #214
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    What time do they close anyway ?

    10pm.


  • #215
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    syklops wrote: »
    10pm.

    Seems fairly reasonable in fairness ... allthough easy for me to say, here 11PM is the cutoff point, but if I go to one of the local corner shop the lad will just put it in a paper bag and say "be careful of the pigs!"

    :)


  • #216
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Seems fairly reasonable in fairness ... allthough easy for me to say, here 11PM is the cutoff point, but if I go to one of the local corner shop the lad will just put it in a paper bag and say "be careful of the pigs!"

    :)

    Well 10pm is the cutoff point and in many places the till wont allow you to ring it through after 10pm so even if you are friends with your local shop keeper, there is little chance of getting it on the sly.


  • Advertisement
  • #217
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Forget it everyone.

    Leo's Minimum pricing bill is going ahead (despite the EU rules la la la), and that means that the Off Licences which include supermarkets and centra/spar/garage etc. will only be allowed to sell alcohol between the hours of 3pm to 5pm.

    Don't laugh, it's the future.

    So there.

    All to support our very generous publicans.

    I really hope that Mary Mitchell O'Connor knocks on my door looking for my vote in the election. I have a few curse words specially ready for her to thank her for been a mouthpiece in the dail for the Vintners association.


  • #218
    squeekyduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭squeekyduck


    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    Check this information from the CSO out. In 2008, the year this law was introduced, there were more than 61,000 public order offences. In 2014, there were 32,000. The number has almost halved since these laws were introduced (the off license timing was one of a bunch of laws introduced at the same time to tackle public order offences)

    http://www.cso.ie/Quicktables/GetQuickTables.aspx?FileName=cja01c18.asp&TableName=Public+order+and+other+social+code+offences&StatisticalProduct=DB_CJ

    So I'd say your minor inconvenience has been well worth it.

    I doubt it. 2008 was the year of the big crash, we had enormous emigration so I don't think this one law change had that impact.

    I live in the UK so this does not affect me but I can relate to Kiwi on this one. A few weeks ago we were hosting a Saturday night party. We were doing the shopping around 9am and I innocently picked up a bottle of red. I was able to buy it with my normal shopping as there is no silly law here. This is normal, having a time limit on alcohol does nothing to protect the alcoholics. I can but alcohol at 4am if I want to in my local 24 hours shops, its my right to do so if I want. It doesn't make anyone an alcoholic, its personnel responsibility after all.


  • #219
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Can you point to anyone who benefits from the law or finds it convenient?
    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    A&E nurses/Ambulance service
    Garda
    Publicans & bar staff
    Off-license workers
    People's livers (I find it hard to believe that a lot of the people who desperately want off licenses open all hours are drinking sensibly)
    Part of the argument IN FAVOUR of 24 hour/unregulated opening is to help A&E, ambulance and the gardai. As there will be no sudden outpuring of people all at once, and associated fights & accidents.

    Just like many other retailers, many publicans would prefer to be allowed open when they want. I know many bar staff would would like to have more hours available to work. I would hate if my workplace was forced to shut down and not be able to avail of overtime. Same goes for off licence workers. I heard on the radio this year there will be more protesting to be allowed serve on good friday.

    As for livers, due to the "last round" culture of treble vodkas/whiskeys many are worse off. And at home many will have loads of stockpiled booze they might tear into once they get drunk, the only reason for it to be there is due to these drink laws.

    I have seen the 10pm rule backfire for similar reasons, it gets near 10 and people clear out, go to the offie and get more tanked up till all hours. When before they might have stayed in the pub and just split home after.


Advertisement