Zgemma H7s Guide

greasepalm · 20-12-2020 6:58pm

downwiththatsor wrote: »

I have been having issues with my diseqc setup on Advanced tuner setup. Seemed to work initially but on diseqc 1.0 it can't seem to do the port A to port B change. Have to go into tuner setup and change port to get the port of the feed from my motorised dish on Port B.
While we are on the subject is there any benefit to me swapping my direct 28.2 feed to tuner B instead of Tuner A currently? Crossepg seems to look at tuner B which sometimes fails to access the diseqc 28.2 feed due to the port issues mentioned above.
Also do satellite recordings preferentially look at tuner A, B or the tuner the channel was originally scanned on?
Thanks in advance

Just got mine setup an hour ago on 2 boxes.
config.mode SIMPLE
mode Diseqc A/B
Port A 13.0E
Port B 19.2

This box does not control the motor but gains extra sat feeds by just choosing a sat channel from my bouquets and it changes.

I have been told if recordings are on different sats on diseqc switch it changes to it.

downwiththatsor · 20-12-2020 7:02pm

greasepalm wrote: »

Just got mine setup an hour ago on 2 boxes.
config.mode SIMPLE
mode Diseqc A/B
Port A 13.0E
Port B 19.2

This box does not control the motor but gains extra sat feeds by just choosing a sat channel from my bouquets and it changes.

Thanks for the reply, do you also have 28.2E in the setup? If so how is it setup?

greasepalm · 20-12-2020 7:05pm

No as my octo is full lol,if i had others i could them to my 4 port diseqc

4 different sats you add them in as connected so 4 feeds would be A B C D as each has its own sat

downwiththatsor · 20-12-2020 7:13pm

greasepalm wrote: »

No as my octo is full lol,if i had others i could them to my 4 port diseqc

4 different sats you add them in as connected so 4 feeds would be A B C D as each has its own sat

Will try that setup in a while, so is there any advantage / disadvantage to having the diseqc on tuner A or B?
For example if recording on 28.2 and wanting to watch a channel on a different transponder does it make any difference which tuner has the simple fixed 28. 2 feed?

greasepalm · 20-12-2020 7:27pm

If recording on tuner A you can only view B or any channel on the tp.of the channel that is recorded.

You could record 3 sat channels on same TP and view on other tuner.

If recording on 28.2 and wanted to view another on a different TP you would need a second feed to your diseqc.

Like a twin sat box eg Vu solo2 both wired with old sky + hd cables.

Dont think it makes a difference in what way tuners are wired.

Mine has diseqc for tuner A

Motor feed for tuner B and if i move it to a different sat on other box it can work as my bouquets would be listed and a click it will change to it.

Added a screenshot of tuner on previous post.

Gerry Wicklow · 20-12-2020 7:47pm

Here's my setup if it helps. This is tuner A. Tuner B = Tuner A.

It shouldn't matter if nothing is connected to C or D as no channel should be requesting it.

Nemeses2050 · 30-12-2020 1:04am

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

thanks man, I'm not using Sky anymore so I guess normal quad LnB will do.

I read somewhere the new boxes work with Sky's wideband LnB's, so thought double check...thanks for your advice mate.

Hello folks,

Further to above, I got a new Quad Lnb. Thankfully neighbor had a big ladder, it was easy to replace Sky lnb, then I plugged back the two cables (Sky lnb had two cables plugged) to 2 ports, two are not connected on the lnb, Should I have connected cables to all 4 ports on the Lnb and use a diseqc? I'm probably mixing up things

The tuners are scanning now and they say 418 channels found but majority of them are Sky channels which are locked, there's only a handful of channels (different versions of BBC n ITV etc) which are not locked. Should I be getting more channels or that's what we get please? I have the tuners setting as simple and satellite automatic, is this the correct setting?

I understand I haven't connected a aerial so I'm not getting Irish soarview channels yet.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated, thanks

Johnboy1951 · 30-12-2020 1:36am

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Hello folks,

Further to above, I got a new Quad Lnb. Thankfully neighbor had a big ladder, it was easy to replace Sky lnb, then I plugged back the two cables (Sky lnb had two cables plugged) to 2 ports, two are not connected on the lnb, Should I have connected cables to all 4 ports on the Lnb and use a diseqc? I'm probably mixing up things

The tuners are scanning now and they say 418 channels found but majority of them are Sky channels which are locked, there's only a handful of channels (different versions of BBC n ITV etc) which are not locked. Should I be getting more channels or that's what we get please? I have the tuners setting as simple and satellite automatic, is this the correct setting?

I understand I haven't connected a aerial so I'm not getting Irish soarview channels yet.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated, thanks

There are more than 1,000 channels including the encrypted ones.

I have about 150 individual channels listed for use here.

downwiththatsor · 30-12-2020 10:21am

I swapped 28.2 to Tuner B from A and now have no issues now with Crossepg doing the nightly epg update, still using advanced and diseqc port A for all sat positions on tuner a and happy enough with how it works so far.

Just wondering if a folder can be created in the internal HDD to place multiple recordings in? When I press the "Filelist" button now the list is very very long, folders for kids programmes etc would make it a lot cleaner and neater, can it be done using openwebif or will FileZilla be needed if it is in fact possible?
Thanks for all the help

greasepalm · 30-12-2020 11:18am

Think atv has directories and all recordings say Emmerdale would be in that folder,Fair City would be in another etc etc.As i use openvix every episode is listed in a folder with a date it was recorded.
Its only on 1 box that i tried Atv on and went back to vix but still have those directories listed and folders.
Others might be able to say how to do it or maybe box is setup already?

Do you have folders or directories listed for recordings as am sure it could be renamed.

swoofer · 30-12-2020 11:44am

Nemeses2050, I am assuming you are using an Openatv image but your box has a multiboot function so in effect you can use 4 images and then decide on the best.

You are on the wrong track scanning the sats. Say if you are on a different image. The 2 tuners are set up as SIMPLE, SINGLE,28.2E ASTRA. NO, NO, green to save.

Now before you scan you set up autobouquets or ABM, in reception you should see Autoboqutmaker.

Say image before I go any further and if you can see Autoboqtemaker. Its so long since I dabbled I have forgotten. If its not there you download from plugins. .

downwiththatsor · 30-12-2020 9:39pm

greasepalm wrote: »

Think atv has directories and all recordings say Emmerdale would be in that folder,Fair City would be in another etc etc.As i use openvix every episode is listed in a folder with a date it was recorded.
Its only on 1 box that i tried Atv on and went back to vix but still have those directories listed and folders.
Others might be able to say how to do it or maybe box is setup already?

Do you have folders or directories listed for recordings as am sure it could be renamed.

I am on Openvix and have now using Filezilla created a Kids folder in /media/hdd/movie/ and it now appears after pressing the "Filelist" key.
Any easy way to cherry pick recordings and place them in the kids folder here /media/hdd/movie/Kids using FileZilla commands or other method?
Kids folder appears as an option when adding an epg timer also but don't want to set it as the default location for all recordings.

greasepalm · 30-12-2020 10:33pm

downwiththatsor wrote: »

I am on Openvix and have now using Filezilla created a Kids folder in /media/hdd/movie/ and it now appears after pressing the "Filelist" key.
Any easy way to cherry pick recordings and place them in the kids folder here /media/hdd/movie/Kids using FileZilla commands or other method?
Kids folder appears as an option when adding an epg timer also but don't want to set it as the default location for all recordings.

Not tried anything like that before so unsure on that.

Another suggestion might be another destination of a second hdd for kids and their recordings could go to that?

downwiththatsor · 30-12-2020 10:35pm

greasepalm wrote: »

Not tried anything like that before so unsure on that.

Another suggestion might be another destination of a second hdd for kids and their recordings could go to that?

An dedicated external hdd is a good idea, cheers

greasepalm · 30-12-2020 10:38pm

Use a powered external one so as to take pressure off usb,I have a 2tb on my 7hs externally powered.

Gerry Wicklow · 30-12-2020 11:13pm

downwiththatsor wrote: »

I am on Openvix and have now using Filezilla created a Kids folder in /media/hdd/movie/ and it now appears after pressing the "Filelist" key.
Any easy way to cherry pick recordings and place them in the kids folder here /media/hdd/movie/Kids using FileZilla commands or other method?
Kids folder appears as an option when adding an epg timer also but don't want to set it as the default location for all recordings.

If you use autotimers there is an option for "custom location" so you can program it to place certain shows in different folders

Nemeses2050 · 30-12-2020 11:45pm

swoofer wrote: »

Nemeses2050, I am assuming you are using an Openatv image but your box has a multiboot function so in effect you can use 4 images and then decide on the best.

You are on the wrong track scanning the sats. Say if you are on a different image. The 2 tuners are set up as SIMPLE, SINGLE,28.2E ASTRA. NO, NO, green to save.

Now before you scan you set up autobouquets or ABM, in reception you should see Autoboqutmaker.

Say image before I go any further and if you can see Autoboqtemaker. Its so long since I dabbled I have forgotten. If its not there you download from plugins. .

Hi Swoofer, No I'm actually on openvix. I factory resetted it and set it up again. But when I do auto scan I'm getting the same Sky channels n a bunch of BBC n ITV versions. But then I blind scanned by chance, now I get 350 odd non encrypted channels n another 350 odd encrypted channels (mostly sky), happy with it now however unable to set ABM's, will try your suggestion. Will reset again n before scanning will set up ABM's.

Thank you very much for your help

greasepalm · 30-12-2020 11:49pm

Stop doing factory reset as you might end up in the crap,any scan you do overwrites previous data.

Do you have Sky Q in the house resulting in low channel finds.

Full scan is 960+ on 28.2

Nemeses2050 · 31-12-2020 12:16am

greasepalm wrote: »

Stop doing factory reset as you might end up in the crap,any scan you do overwrites previous data.

Do you have Sky Q in the house resulting in low channel finds.

Full scan is 960+ on 28.2

No I don't have Sky Q, used to have a year ago. Unable to scan for ABMs, it saying error in tuner B, my tuner B settings are same as tuner A. Thought will reset it once n set up ABM'S as suggested by Swoofer and then scan.

greasepalm · 31-12-2020 12:55am

Did you get your lnb changed when you left Sky?

If not that is your issue as other boxes wont work on it until its changed.

Nemeses2050 · 31-12-2020 2:04am

greasepalm wrote: »

Did you get your lnb changed when you left Sky?

If not that is your issue as other boxes wont work on it until its changed.

I did replace the wide band LnB which was on the dish. Sort of happy with the channels I'm getting now, however I would like to get them sorted in order n get rid of dupes.

greasepalm · 31-12-2020 10:41am

Its best to have 2 working sat feeds into the 2 tuners and post up a picture of your 2 tuner setup and also abm.+ have you setup Saorview for your Irish channels.

Supercell · 31-12-2020 3:36pm

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Hi Swoofer, No I'm actually on openvix. I factory resetted it and set it up again. But when I do auto scan I'm getting the same Sky channels n a bunch of BBC n ITV versions. But then I blind scanned by chance, now I get 350 odd non encrypted channels n another 350 odd encrypted channels (mostly sky), happy with it now however unable to set ABM's, will try your suggestion. Will reset again n before scanning will set up ABM's.

Thank you very much for your help

I'm using Openvix latest on my box and find ABM a bit of faff to be honest. The skin I use is SlyK Onyx and I've just put all the freesat and Saorview channels I like into the one "Favourites" bouquet. You can set the amount of lines/rows in the epg to suit your taste, i've mine set to 16. Not what you are aiming at but maybe worth considering?

Gerry Wicklow · 31-12-2020 3:51pm

Supercell wrote: »

I'm using Openvix latest on my box and find ABM a bit of faff to be honest. The skin I use is SlyK Onyx and I've just put all the freesat and Saorview channels I like into the one "Favourites" bouquet. You can set the amount of lines/rows in the epg to suit your taste, i've mine set to 16. Not what you are aiming at but maybe worth considering?

I agree, I've never seen the need for ABM for the very rare occasion that anything good changes. I have my favourites listing Saorview first then BBCs etc in roughly alphabetical order. I'm a firm believer in KISS.

tipperary · 08-01-2021 8:44pm

Anyone know what the best USB DVB-T2 tuner is for these? I am looking to add a second tuner. I have a play TV at the moment, but it doesn't really handle the HD streams unfortunately.

Muahahaha · 12-01-2021 6:19pm

tipperary wrote: »

Anyone know what the best USB DVB-T2 tuner is for these? I am looking to add a second tuner. I have a play TV at the moment, but it doesn't really handle the HD streams unfortunately.

Keen to hear a recommendation on this myself as I have to get one for the Zgemma too, only have the freesat channels at the moment and want to add the Irish ones. Seems you can pay up to 60 or 70 euro for one but if anyone knows of one at a more reasonable price around 20 or 30 please post up.

greasepalm · 12-01-2021 6:53pm

https://www.satworld.ie/formuler-usb-dvb-t2-c-tuner.html

Ring them to confirm as you have to install drivers from your feeds for it to work.

greasepalm · 12-01-2021 7:08pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Keen to hear a recommendation on this myself as I have to get one for the Zgemma too, only have the freesat channels at the moment and want to add the Irish ones. Seems you can pay up to 60 or 70 euro for one but if anyone knows of one at a more reasonable price around 20 or 30 please post up.

Does your box not have the Saorview tuner?

Muahahaha · 14-01-2021 12:07am

greasepalm wrote: »

Does your box not have the Saorview tuner?

Not as far as Im aware, I got it from World of Satellite in the UK, this one
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/zgemma/zgemma-h7c

The box is connected to a chimney aeriel and satellite. I did a scan, all the satellite channels came through but no Irish ones, I saw it scan terrestrial (DVB-T2) but it didnt return anything. It got 884 satellite channels but for some reason when I go to the epg it only goes up to 520. But no Irish channels anyway which is why Im presuming I need a usb tuner for it to get them.

greasepalm · 14-01-2021 12:45am

Zgemma H7C 4K UHD 2x DVB-C/T2 + 1x DVB-S2X according to specs on wos.

You have to setup your saorview tuner to your location did you?
If you wanted to view and record both Saorview tuners need feeds
You must have a sat feed installed as you have got sat channels.

Muahahaha · 14-01-2021 1:19am

greasepalm wrote: »

You have to setup your saorview tuner to your location did you?

Not sure on this, I just did a full scan of both sat and terrestrial and no channels were found on terrestrial. Is there a setting on the box to set the saorview location? I had presumed the lad who installed the aeriel would have done this but maybe not. The TV itself is old and does not have a built in saorview tuner.

greasepalm · 14-01-2021 1:37am

Thats why you can use this box go to tuner A or B mode DVB-T2 aslong as you have an aerial feed

As i use 3 rock i use this setting but your region might be somewhere else buttons < or > for changing and green to save

Second image shows my abm setup for dublin.

Muahahaha · 14-01-2021 1:41am

I know Kippure is my closest mast. Thanks for the images, I'll give that a try tomorrow and report back

refusetolose · 14-01-2021 2:33am

Muahahaha wrote: »

I know Kippure is my closest mast. Thanks for the images, I'll give that a try tomorrow and report back

I'm 500 metres from a mast but can only pick up channels from one 7km away , both are in the same direction too

greasepalm · 14-01-2021 2:35am

Might depend on line of sight as what might block your signal.

jeromeof · 29-01-2021 1:28am

Thinking of getting one of the boxes. 2 questions:
1. Transcoding to mobile?
I read some of the devices can do this and it is mostly required to view channels outside your home with the webif web Ui. So does this work and if not what model should I get instead?

2. HDMI CEC
I hate the remote on these types of boxes, but mostly I just use one remote now that came with my Samsung TV, in my opinion it’s pretty fantastic remote - only a few button but by using HDMI cec it can be used for basic navigation in all my current devices connected to the Samsung. So my question is can this model take HDMI cec command ( for navigation around menus + play/pause etc ) from the TV remote? A friend mentioned it didn’t work with his TV

Thanks

greasepalm · 29-01-2021 1:34am

By using box outside you could allow a hacker into your network unless its done correctly.

Hdmi cec is listed in openvix image but i dont use it.

Gerry Wicklow · 29-01-2021 7:16am

jeromeof wrote: »

Thinking of getting one of the boxes. 2 questions:
1. Transcoding to mobile?
I read some of the devices can do this and it is mostly required to view channels outside your home with the webif web Ui. So does this work and if not what model should I get instead?

2. HDMI CEC
I hate the remote on these types of boxes, but mostly I just use one remote now that came with my Samsung TV, in my opinion it’s pretty fantastic remote - only a few button but by using HDMI cec it can be used for basic navigation in all my current devices connected to the Samsung. So my question is can this model take HDMI cec command ( for navigation around menus + play/pause etc ) from the TV remote? A friend mentioned it didn’t work with his TV

Thanks

1. AFAIK it can be done with a bit of messing but be careful of security as it can open your home network to potential risks.
2. Yes HDMI CEC works with Samsung TV remote and vice versa.

lgs 4 · 29-01-2021 7:59pm

Zgemma H7C 4K UHD 2x DVB-C/T2 + 1x DVB-S2X

Two questions.

Question One: Is the WiFi on a wifi dongle.
Question Two: Are the recordings DRM protected.

FlexMcMurphy · 29-01-2021 8:37pm

1. There is no on board Wifi, so yes you would need a separate Wifi dongle.
2. No.

lgs 4 · 29-01-2021 8:39pm

FlexMcMurphy wrote: »

No and no.

So the wifi is over-air.

greasepalm · 29-01-2021 9:16pm

Better to use a wired lan source over wifi dongles.

lgs 4 · 29-01-2021 9:30pm

greasepalm wrote: »

Better to use a wired lan source over wifi dongles.

Thanks, .that's not possible .working on 5G hotspot.

downwiththatsor · 08-06-2021 10:43pm

Good evening all,

I am having issues with FTP connection to my box using both Filezilla and Dreambox Control Centre. I am also getting a message oscam webif disabled.
Been ages since I had to use Filezilla, I am happy with the ip address as it works fine with openwebif in the browser, i am using root as the username and tried a blank password and ports 21, 22 and 23 to no avail. I have created a password of root now in Network but it still wont ftp.
Any thoughts or advice?
Rebooted the box etc also.
Thanks in advance

* Still no joy, tried on another pc and the issue is the same. Updated the image to latest Openvix but still no joy. Can I connect to the zgemma with an ethernet direct to the laptop for sending files etc as Ftp not possible at the moment?

** Sorted, changed my password using a telnet command and works now at last

greasepalm · 08-06-2021 11:05pm

All new images now need a password entered on box first if not you wont connect by ftp.

Write it down so you wont forget it.

greasepalm · 08-06-2021 11:09pm

You need to setup a password on box first and saved as ftp wont work without new password entered.
Write down password so you wont forget it.

Mousie32 · 27-06-2021 4:11pm

Hi there, I'm have a h7s running open vix. I have two TV tuners for saorview. One is via the normal coaxial and the other via a USB tuner. It always seems to default to tuner D which is the USB tuner. Is there a way I can set it so it defaults to tuner C. I just don't have the confidence in the USB tuner I have.

Thanks

Mousie32 · 27-06-2021 5:01pm

Hi guys, sorry I found it - setup/ tuners & scanning / miscellaneous!! I was having trouble with mux 1 saorview coming through USB tuner. But no bother coming through the coaxial one. I suspect my TV tuner is on the way out!

Johnboy1951 · 28-06-2021 2:24pm

Mousie32 wrote: »

Hi guys, sorry I found it - setup/ tuners & scanning / miscellaneous!! I was having trouble with mux 1 saorview coming through USB tuner. But no bother coming through the coaxial one. I suspect my TV tuner is on the way out!

Maybe, or maybe the signal is just too low for that tuner on one mux.
Can you receive those channels if you feed the tuner directly from the aerial without any splitter or feeding the internal tuner?

_Kaiser_ · 28-06-2021 2:31pm

I think one of my satellite tuners has failed too. Luckily I rarely record anything so can work around it, but AutoBouquets wasn't updating and I'm not getting a signal if only connected to it.

Can these be swapped individually?

Zgemma H7s Guide

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