N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

marno21 · 25-09-2017 2:23pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is there an eventual plan to link the New Ross Bypass to both the Waterford and Enniscorthy bypasses with motorway.

It all seems quite disjointed given how little distance there will be between the end of one and start of another.

There is a suspended Waterford-Glenmore N25 scheme which was to link the two bypasses with HQDC. You would then have continuous HQDC from Kilmeaden to east of New Ross which could be redesignated motorway.

There is also a plan to link the upgraded N30 west of Enniscorthy with the new N30 New Ross bypass. This scheme will be single carriageway (N30 Moneytucket to New Ross)

road_high · 25-09-2017 2:23pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is there an eventual plan to link the New Ross Bypass to both the Waterford and Enniscorthy bypasses with motorway.

It all seems quite disjointed given how little distance there will be between the end of one and start of another.

The N30 volumes are pretty small and warrant little further upgrading. The Enniscorthy bypass links to the Moneytucker realignment from the early 2000s so North of Clonroche it will be all excellent road.

South towards Waterford bypass the N25 is not a bad route either from Glenmore and in my opinion doesn't warrant upgrading bar safety improvements. It was upgraded late 80s/early 90s and there's far more pressing routes need looking at first.

Cookiemunster · 25-09-2017 2:25pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is there an eventual plan to link the New Ross Bypass to both the Waterford and Enniscorthy bypasses with motorway.

It all seems quite disjointed given how little distance there will be between the end of one and start of another.

Is this not a 2+2 rather than a motorway?

AugustusMinimus · 25-09-2017 2:27pm

marno21 wrote: »

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is there an eventual plan to link the New Ross Bypass to both the Waterford and Enniscorthy bypasses with motorway.

It all seems quite disjointed given how little distance there will be between the end of one and start of another.

There is a suspended Waterford-Glenmore N25 scheme which was to link the two bypasses with HQDC. You would then have continuous HQDC from Kilmeaden to east of New Ross which could be redesignated motorway.

There is also a plan to link the upgraded N30 west of Enniscorthy with the new N30 New Ross bypass. This scheme will be single carriageway (N30 Moneytucket to New Ross)

The N30 plan seems a little mad to me. It’s at max 15 miles between both HQDC schemes.

If proper upgrades were done eventually, it would give Waterford 2 routes to Dublin. No rush doing it as you say though.

AugustusMinimus · 25-09-2017 2:32pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Is there an eventual plan to link the New Ross Bypass to both the Waterford and Enniscorthy bypasses with motorway.

It all seems quite disjointed given how little distance there will be between the end of one and start of another.

Is this not a 2+2 rather than a motorway?

Oh. Thought it HQDC at a minimum?

marno21 · 25-09-2017 2:39pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Oh. Thought it HQDC at a minimum?

New Ross bypass is HQDC west of the R733 junction (including bridge) and 2+2 east of the R733 junction

marno21 · 25-09-2017 2:40pm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

The N30 plan seems a little mad to me. It’s at max 15 miles between both HQDC schemes.

If proper upgrades were done eventually, it would give Waterford 2 routes to Dublin. No rush doing it as you say though.

The N80/N30 bypasses of Enniscorthy aren't HQDC and the realignment West of Enniscorthy is WS2 so may as well do the rest of the N30 as WS2 and have a decent standard consistant road

spacetweek · 25-09-2017 7:55pm

No part of the New Ross bypass will ever be redesignated motorway. Even if you could do the bridge, that would force pedestrians and cyclists to use the old road through the town.

Carawaystick · 25-09-2017 8:20pm

spacetweek wrote: »

No part of the New Ross bypass will ever be redesignated motorway. Even if you could do the bridge, that would force pedestrians and cyclists to use the old road through the town.

But that is what happens in Waterford with the N25...

josip · 25-09-2017 8:20pm

spacetweek wrote: »

No part of the New Ross bypass will ever be redesignated motorway. Even if you could do the bridge, that would force pedestrians and cyclists to use the old road through the town.

I thought that pedestrians were not allowed on the new bridge even with its current designation?
Did someone say that there isn't any pedestrian walkway?

fricatus · 26-09-2017 11:49am

josip wrote: »

I thought that pedestrians were not allowed on the new bridge even with its current designation?
Did someone say that there isn't any pedestrian walkway?

That's true. There are signs on the stretch of the N25 that includes the bridge saying that no cyclists or pedestrians are allowed, and there is no physical walkway on the bridge itself.

marno21 · 26-09-2017 12:20pm

spacetweek wrote: »

No part of the New Ross bypass will ever be redesignated motorway. Even if you could do the bridge, that would force pedestrians and cyclists to use the old road through the town.

Which is where they should be.

Cyclists and pedestrians have no business on a dual carriageway with no facilities on them and that have no destinations such as properties or businesses along them. Put decent cycle lanes on the old N25

Sam Russell · 26-09-2017 4:16pm

Looking at the map, there are only a few bridges over the Slaney south of the N80/N11 junction - two in Enniscorthy itself, two minor roads, and the Ferrycarrig and Wexford Bridge. It would make sense to continue the N30 over the Slaney south of Enniscorthy to connect with the N11, and then onto the M11.

Are there any plans for this?

Edit: I see they are taking the N30 west of Enniscorthy. They could have taken it south, requiring only a few Kms and a new bridge.

Decoda · 28-09-2017 2:52pm

Video 2 of the progress. It was tweeted by Wexford County Council today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=102&v=1Qkn8LsNJmw

D.

m17 · 29-09-2017 4:45pm

Here's a few pics of the barrow crossing from the n25newross website 20/08/17

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josip · 29-09-2017 5:31pm

m17 wrote: »

Here's a few pics of the barrow crossing from the n25newross website 20/08/1723

I can see my house

jca · 29-09-2017 5:50pm

josip wrote: »

I can see my house

It's not even built yet and there's a squatter....

allthedoyles · 29-09-2017 7:54pm

how is the bridge going to stand on one leg ?

josip · 29-09-2017 7:58pm

allthedoyles wrote: »

how is the bridge going to stand on one leg ?

m17 · 12-10-2017 1:18pm

Pumping the concerte on the bridge deck

m17 · 12-10-2017 2:26pm

The bridge deck

josip · 12-10-2017 3:20pm

Good to see a compliant colour scheme during construction.
I'd expect a purple hue to emerge halfway across the river

m17 · 12-10-2017 4:26pm

Inside one of the bridge piers

top of the bridge deck

serfboard · 12-10-2017 4:38pm

m17 wrote: »

Pumping the concerte on the bridge deck

Anyone know why they're pumping concrete as opposed to using pre-cast?

spacetweek · 12-10-2017 8:24pm

M17, are you heading down to New Ross now to photograph the next big project?

m17 · 13-10-2017 5:33am

spacetweek wrote: »

M17, are you heading down to New Ross now to photograph the next big project?

You're dam right just finished doing the m17/m18 project as are so called tds couldn't be bothered starting the m20,I'll be down here bring you the best pics and updates as best as I can for the next two years

swoofer · 13-10-2017 1:03pm

m17 perfect, I have retired so have you to keep me going for another 2 years. Great work and really appreciated.

I am hoping I will see M20 but....

marno21 · 14-10-2017 7:06pm

Bridge progress update @ end of September 2017:

Plans for Q4 2017:

BAM N25 wrote:

Bridges on local roads
• Accommodation underpasses
• Structures Glenmore underpass
• Earthworks: Drainage
• Barrow Bridge: bridge deck.
• Road Diversion – N25 Glenmore & local road tie-ins
• Pavement
• Landscaping

Seems to be motoring along well!

josip · 14-10-2017 10:46pm

JohnC. · 15-10-2017 1:16pm

What's the one labelled "Push pull" next to the central P4 in the above image?

m17 · 15-10-2017 1:32pm

JohnC. wrote: »

What's the one labelled "Push pull" next to the central P4 in the above image?

Force is defined as the push or pull on object's compression and tension are the push and pull that help bridges to remain standing

m17 · 17-10-2017 10:28am

The river barrow

josip · 17-10-2017 12:09pm

^^^^^^ That wasn't taken yesterday

Sam Russell · 17-10-2017 12:40pm

marno21 wrote: »

Bridge progress update @ end of September 2017:

Plans for Q4 2017:

Seems to be motoring along well!

Am I right in that 'push-pull' pylon in the middle is to damp out oscillation on the bridge?

m17 · 18-10-2017 12:29pm

Thanks spacetweek for your write up on www.irishmotorwayinfo.com cheers mate

munchkin_utd · 18-10-2017 1:31pm

that looks like a gigantic bridge.
Its not going to be tolled is it ?

BelfastVanMan · 18-10-2017 2:20pm

No toll. :-)

m17 · 24-10-2017 6:40am

The wexford side of the barrow bridge 11/10/17

m17 · 24-10-2017 8:25am

Each stretch of the bridge deck is manufactured in a fixed pre fabrication area behind the abutment,each new stretch is joined to the previously built and pushed by a hydraulic system, so that the bridge deck is sliding on the piers that are previously builthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvE4J4GOF8&sns=em

Reuben1210 · 24-10-2017 1:32pm

m17 wrote: »

The wexford side of the barrow bridge 11/10/17

Are you getting all these pics from the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Enniscorthy-Ross-bypass-and-bridge-photos-videos-726109404156596/, or will you be going on a trip down south every now and again?

m17 · 24-10-2017 5:17pm

Reuben1210 wrote: »

Are you getting all these pics from the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Enniscorthy-Ross-bypass-and-bridge-photos-videos-726109404156596/, or will you be going on a trip down south every now and again?

I'm also posting pics there as well after spending 33 months on the m17/ m18 project I'll be coming down here more often bringing you the best pics and updates as best as I can

m17 · 25-10-2017 9:08am

Climbing formwork for concrete pouring at height with working platforms as vertical formwork support for those walls which due to their height cannot be poured at once,they suit construction of dams,towers,piers and pylonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG7rpjU3XR8

m17 · 04-11-2017 11:34am

Here's some pics of the barrow crossing form the n25 newross website September 17

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allthedoyles · 04-11-2017 11:36pm

vicwatson · 05-11-2017 10:36am

If travelling westbound on N25 and come to Ballymacar, will I be able to join the by pass seamlessly towards Waterford or will this be a roundabout to get up on to the by pass? Same travelling eastbound ?

MichealD · 05-11-2017 8:37pm

vicwatson wrote: »

If travelling westbound on N25 and come to Ballymacar, will I be able to join the by pass seamlessly towards Waterford or will this be a roundabout to get up on to the by pass? Same travelling eastbound ?

At grade roundabouts at both ends - Corcorans Cross & Glenmore- and at Ballymacar.

Sam Russell · 05-11-2017 8:41pm

vicwatson wrote: »

If travelling westbound on N25 and come to Ballymacar, will I be able to join the by pass seamlessly towards Waterford or will this be a roundabout to get up on to the by pass? Same travelling eastbound ?

It is standard practice to end a fast road with a roundabout - a bit like a full stop. This occurs even though the planners know that the road will continue in the next phase of upgrade.

Reuben1210 · 06-11-2017 12:46am

Sam Russell wrote: »

It is standard practice to end a fast road with a roundabout - a bit like a full stop. This occurs even though the planners know that the road will continue in the next phase of upgrade.

The only place that i know of where that didn't happen was when the original section of the M18 stopped at Gort...they finished at a grade separated junction...;)

L1011 · 06-11-2017 12:52am

Reuben1210 wrote: »

The only place that i know of where that didn't happen was when the original section of the M18 stopped at Gort...they finished at a grade separated junction...;)

Been a few where roads ended with a lane drop before upgrades - M11 before Rathnew-Arklow for one, as did the original M4.

The N4 near motorway grade DC still does.

Sam Russell · 06-11-2017 7:01pm

L1011 wrote: »

Been a few where roads ended with a lane drop before upgrades - M11 before Rathnew-Arklow for one, as did the original M4.

The N4 near motorway grade DC still does.

And did as it was gradually extended towards Athlone.

Why is this practice not adopted everywhere?

N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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