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A solid arguent for chosing cash games over tournaments

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    #32
    RoundTower
    Registered Users Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    padraig_f wrote:
    One thing that surprises me here is the relatively low ROI from the best players. I'm not sure about what kind of ROI is sustainable at MTTs, but they normally say in $10k live events that the best players have an expectation of about 4-5 times the buy-in.
    They normally say what?

    Maybe 5x the buyin in the WSOP main event, in other 10k events I can't imagine the best players can expect more than maybe 100% ROI.


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    #33
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    So you guys are saying the second higherst ranked player on pocketfives and
    1st on Bodogs TLB in 2005 is an idiot?


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    #34
    OwenHargreaves
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26 ✭OwenHargreaves


    NickyOD wrote:
    So you guys are saying the second higherst ranked player on pocketfives and
    1st on Bodogs TLB in 2005 is an idiot?

    Actually i'd be more inclined to say people who make totally incorrect statements about others , as if they were matter of fact and then dont bother to correct them, are idiots!!

    I think cardshark is referring to his hyper-aggressive style of play, which usually results in him dishing out a lot of bad beats and donkings. He is clearly extremely talented and successful.


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    #35
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    OwenHargreaves wrote:
    Actually i'd be more inclined to say people who make totally incorrect statements about others , as if they were matter of fact and then dont bother to correct them, are idiots!!

    What's this about?


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    #36
    White Knight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭White Knight


    NickyOD wrote:
    Many don't make much at all. Rooney_Dives has only returned a $9K profit overall. Riverloser who is one of the highest ranked online tournament players has only made $19K on stars in over 1300 tournaments.
    OwenHargreaves wrote:
    Actually i'd be more inclined to say people who make totally incorrect statements about others , as if they were matter of fact and then dont bother to correct them, are idiots!!

    Think thats what he means.


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    #37
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    White Knight wrote:
    Think thats what he means.

    I did actually reply apologising for my mistake thinking it was MTTs. That disappeared, along with other replies in this thread. The link was a repost from a thread on the hendon mob with "tournament reporter" in the thread's title so I made the assumption it was for MTTs. An honest mistake is hardly grounds for calling someone an idiot.


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    #38
    bohsman
    Registered Users Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    NickyOD wrote:
    I did actually reply apologising for my mistake thinking it was MTTs. That disappeared, along with other replies in this thread. The link was a repost from a thread on the hendon mob with "tournament reporter" in the thread's title so I made the assumption it was for MTTs. An honest mistake is hardly grounds for calling someone an idiot.

    tournamentreporter.com is a fantastic site which does list mtts for the last 2 months at least but it seems to be gone, havent been able to get onto it for weeks at least.


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    #39
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    bohsman wrote:
    tournamentreporter.com is a fantastic site which does list mtts for the last 2 months at least but it seems to be gone, havent been able to get onto it for weeks at least.

    I know!! :mad:


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    #40
    OwenHargreaves
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26 ✭OwenHargreaves


    NickyOD wrote:
    I did actually reply apologising for my mistake thinking it was MTTs. That disappeared, along with other replies in this thread..... An honest mistake is hardly grounds for calling someone an idiot.

    It's all good, didnt see the apology. You can see why it's irritating though, imagine a thread "tournaments v cash games" with the OP saying "i think tournaments are the way to go, yer man NickyOD has only made 6k in cash games all year, cant be much money in it if that's all he's made this year!!" except you've probably made many times that amount!! Anyway, you are right there is more $ in cash games but it's still a decent living for the good tournament players, better than a lot of jobs i can think of!!


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    #41
    padraig_f
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    RoundTower wrote:
    Maybe 5x the buyin in the WSOP main event, in other 10k events I can't imagine the best players can expect more than maybe 100% ROI.
    So you think Ivey et al. are playing these multi-day events with an expectation of earning one buy-in?


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    #42
    MrPillowTalk
    Registered Users Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    padraig_f wrote:
    So you think Ivey et al. are playing these multi-day events with an expectation of earning one buy-in?

    your forgeting most of the pros are sponsored so in esscence they are on a freeroll. if you took most of the name pros and looked at their winnings over any one year and then added up the value of the buyins to all the tourneys they played I would imagine very few are seeing more than a 100% return. Sure those that have a huge result will but most wont.


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    #43
    nicnicnic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    I recall watching an interview with Dave Colclough, he had a break even year and topped the European rankings.


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