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Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi *spoilers from Post 2857*

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    #6002
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    I think it's universally accepted that Domhnall Gleeson is terrible in these new Star Wars movies - great actor but the role and his character's lines are like a spoof movie they're so bad, like Spaceballs.

    It's the direction, not the actor. Gleeson's character could have been a serious business military commander. A figure that could make the audience believe that this First Order crowd were actually a force to be reckoned with.

    But no...let's make it "fun" instead.

    When comparing the First Order to the Empire it's just woeful how pathetic the former is and how unrealistic the galactic situation is with them as the "reigning" power.

    The sequels are masters at destroying any kind of suspension of disbelief, with their awful writing and characters. Compare Hux to Tarkin, or Piett, or Veers.

    The mincing little, twisty faced, ginger wouldn't last 5 minutes with Vader.

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    #6003
    Falthyron
    Registered Users Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    Tony EH wrote: »
    It's the direction, not the actor. Gleeson's character could have been a serious business military commander. A figure that could make the audience believe that this First Order crowd were actually a force to be reckoned with.

    But no...let's make it "fun" instead.

    When comparing the First Order to the Empire it's just woeful how pathetic the former is and how unrealistic the galactic situation is with them as the "reigning" power.

    The sequels are masters at destroying any kind of suspension of disbelief, with their awful writing and characters. Compare Hux to Tarkin, or Piett, or Veers.

    The mincing little, twisty faced, ginger wouldn't last 5 minutes with Vader.

    not_face_impressed-256.png

    You're not getting it, Tony. These new Star Wars films are for the next generation. They are for the kids. You have to move with the marketing, man. Isn't it wonderful that we are getting Star Wars films at all? Isn't it great that new, innovative directors are getting the chance to re-write the essence of Star Wars and portray it in a form more universal, and more importantly, financially viable?

    Take the happy pill, Tony, and go along for the ride. In case you didn't know, the pill is called 'Everything is awesome' and guess what, it makes everything awesome, including stuff that makes no sense. Surrender to the mouse, life is easier that way.




























    /s :D

    EDIT: This reminds me, I should re-read Huxley's 'Brave New World'.


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    #6004
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Falthyron wrote: »
    You're not getting it, Tony. These new Star Wars films are for the next generation. They are for the kids. You have to move with the marketing, man. Isn't it wonderful that we are getting Star Wars films at all? Isn't it great that new, innovative directors are getting the chance to re-write the essence of Star Wars and portray it in a form more universal, and more importantly, financially viable?

    It's something wonderful alright.


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    #6005
    homerun_homer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    Aw man you'd have to queue all morning to have a spot near the presidential stand.:(


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    #6006
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    :)

    https://twitter.com/hamillhimself/status/973194527384178688


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    #6007
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Deleted scene.

    https://twitter.com/galensdeathstar/status/973168392629817344?s=21


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    #6008
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,490 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    General Hux was terrible, a bit of a punchline, but I still enjoyed Last Jedi on balance, so ... *shrug* I dunno. The middleground really doesn't exist with this film.

    Huh. I've just checked, and I registered this username 10 years ago; and yet in all that time I can't remember a thread in Films this acrimonious, argumentative, and divisively circular. The threads on Nolan Batman films got a bit narky all right, especially the third one, but this thread has just been something else.

    Removing the two 'rolling' threads (Netflix Recommendations and What-you-have-watched...), the second most replied topic has 184 posts - compared to the 6000+ of this thread. :eek:


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    #6009
    py2006
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    Green milk?


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    #6010
    nix
    Registered Users Posts: 4,909 ✭✭✭nix


    pixelburp wrote: »

    Removing the two 'rolling' threads (Netflix Recommendations and What-you-have-watched...), the second most replied topic has 184 posts - compared to the 6000+ of this thread. :eek:

    Take away David75's senseless posts and the thread would only be about 1000+ ;)


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    #6011
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    nix wrote: »
    Take away David75's senseless posts and the thread would only be about 1000+ ;)

    You took time to post that? Seriously?


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    #6012
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Wonder if Hamill will do that late late on Friday?
    Probably a safe bet.


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    #6013
    Acosta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Re-watched it for the first time last night and would go so far to say that I just about enjoyed it.

    What a difference it makes not to be surrounded by idiots in a cinema laughing at EVERYTHING! Only last night did I realise the extent to which those clowns ruined it for me. The bad comedy barely bothered me at all when watching it alone. I think in future I will wait until after the x-mas holidays to go and see these movies when the place is quite.

    I still find Rey, Finn and Poe loud, annoying and find it hard to care about what happens to them, but overall a much better experience than the first time around.


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    #6014
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    So this is getting digital release tomorrow right? Will watch if so. Only watched this the once in the cinema. Still dissapointed looking back to be fair.


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    #6015
    JohnFalstaff
    Registered Users Posts: 875 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The sequels are masters at destroying any kind of suspension of disbelief, with their awful writing and characters. Compare Hux to Tarkin, or Piett, or Veers.

    The mincing little, twisty faced, ginger wouldn't last 5 minutes with Vader.

    The captain that went down with the dreadnought in the opening scene was good. He was a throwback to the type of characters you mention and gave the First Order a bit of that highly-drilled military muscle that the Empire had.

    Given his age, it's likely that he was originally trained by the Empire - maybe that's why he stands out!

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    #6016
    saintsaltynuts
    Registered Users Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    pixelburp wrote: »
    General Hux was terrible, a bit of a punchline, but I still enjoyed Last Jedi on balance, so ... *shrug* I dunno. The middleground really doesn't exist with this film.

    Huh. I've just checked, and I registered this username 10 years ago; and yet in all that time I can't remember a thread in Films this acrimonious, argumentative, and divisively circular. The threads on Nolan Batman films got a bit narky all right, especially the third one, but this thread has just been something else.

    Removing the two 'rolling' threads (Netflix Recommendations and What-you-have-watched...), the second most replied topic has 184 posts - compared to the 6000+ of this thread. :eek:

    The film really is a mixed bag though isn't it.


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    #6017
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    So this is getting digital release tomorrow right? Will watch if so. Only watched this the once in the cinema. Still dissapointed looking back to be fair.

    Yep tomorrow for digital. Not sure what kind of quality it comes in from iTunes? And if it’s different than say amazon? Everyone seems to want it in 4K. Or if you can get all the extras with the digital release?

    Ten minutes from the making of doco over on IMDb

    https://www.imdb.com/videoplayer/vi3962091545


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    #6018
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    JohnFalstaff wrote: »
    The captain that went down with the dreadnought in the opening scene was good. He was a throwback to the type of characters you mention and gave the First Order a bit of that highly-drilled military muscle that the Empire had.

    Given his age, it's likely that he was originally trained by the Empire - maybe that's why he stands out!

    Perhaps and it's not beyond reason that there would be ex Empire officers and soldiers still fighting the good fight as it were, which makes the stormtroopers stolen at birth angle all the more stupid and redundant.

    But, unlike the Empire, I never once get the feeling that the First Order is anything but an incompetent bunch of fools that are only doing well because the "resistance" are even more so.


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    #6019
    david75
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    The first order are the empire. Snoke came in and eliminated all the leading officers if they opposed him and took over and rebuilt. So there’s deffo loads imperial staff and officers still there.
    The empire and its fleet were hardly 100% efficient or even competent. They couldn’t wipe out the Rebels for what, 25 years? and were dealt major defeats by them epeatedly. Scariff. Lothal. Yavin. Endor. Probably more in the books.
    Yeah. Super competent so they were.


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    #6020
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    This one I don’t know. Could have been good to leave in. Explains Reys frustration with him.

    https://twitter.com/jenniferlanda/status/973288683364167682


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    #6021
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    david75 wrote: »
    The first order are the empire. Snoke came in and eliminated all the leading officers if they opposed him and took over and rebuilt. So there’s deffo loads imperial staff and officers still there.
    The empire and its fleet were hardly 100% efficient or even competent. They couldn’t wipe out the Rebels for what, 25 years? and were dealt major defeats by them epeatedly. Scariff. Lothal. Yavin. Endor. Probably more in the books.
    Yeah. Super competent so they were.

    In your rush to defend these films, you've missed the point beautifully...again.


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    #6022
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Nm it’s bogey


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    #6023
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    david75 wrote: »
    Yep tomorrow for digital. Not sure what kind of quality it comes in from iTunes? And if it’s different than say amazon? Everyone seems to want it in 4K. Or if you can get all the extras with the digital release?

    Ten minutes from the making of doco over on IMDb

    https://www.imdb.com/videoplayer/vi3962091545

    I might get it on the PS Store. That would be HD.


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    #6024
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Tony EH wrote: »
    In your rush to defend these films, you've missed the point beautifully...again.

    And in your rush to bash them you’re doing so without the right info. Backstory Tony. Backstory.


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    #6025
    Tony EH
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    That makes fuck all sense.


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    #6026
    Wedwood
    Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Wedwood


    One positive for people who didn't like TLJ is that JJ Abrams is back to finish out the trilogy, which gives the opportunity for him to get things back on track, similar to how he did with TFA following the Prequels.

    I'd guess that after 40 years of the 'Skywalker Saga', it'll be fan servicing overload to wrap up the trinity of trilogies.


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    #6027
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Tony EH wrote: »
    That makes fuck all sense.

    Charming. The first order has wiped out the new republic and just about the entire resistance. How more threatening do you want them to be?


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    #6028
    Shakey_jake
    Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭Shakey_jake


    Oh man! WHY didnt they leave the caretaker scene in!!

    Look forward to getting a copy with that spliced in


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    #6029
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Shakey_jake wrote: »
    Oh man! WHY didnt they leave the caretaker scene in!!

    Look forward to getting a copy with that spliced in

    Shame. They cut out a comic scene that actually worked.


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    #6030
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    david75 wrote: »
    Charming. The first order has wiped out the new republic and just about the entire resistance. How more threatening do you want them to be?

    They blow up a few planets and then magically rule the galaxy the next day.

    That's not "threatening". That's just stupid.

    I can't buy that.


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    #6031
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Tony EH wrote: »
    They blow up a few planets and then magically rule the galaxy the next day.

    That's not "threatening". That's just stupid.

    I can't buy that.

    And the republics entire fleet too. It’s pretty easy to take over once you’ve taken out the government and all its fleet.


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