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President 'The Donald' Trump and Surprising Consequences - Mod warning in OP

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    #1412
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amerika wrote: »
    This Women’s March... I don't get it. What was the purpose of the demonstrations? It just seemed to be an embarrassing vulgar display with no coherent reason for marching
    .

    Defunding planned parenthood will directly effect millions of women. It's the largest cancer screening service in the country.

    There's one reason.

    Then there's obamacare. The marches have already had a significant effect in sending a message that it needs to be treated carefully not some vague promises of a replacement sometime in the future.

    What else?

    It was a message to send to a thin skinned misogynistic narcissist that he may not be as popular as he thinks he is and that he needs the support of congressmen who will be up for election in two years.


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    #1413
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    inforfun wrote: »
    I said people are stressed on the first day at the probably biggest job in the world. I didnt say the Obama's were just as stressed. Neither did i imply that.

    Of course you did. You put up a picture of them. :rolleyes:


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    #1414
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Amerika wrote: »
    This Women’s March... I don't get it. What was the purpose of the demonstrations?
    So we'd get to see posters like this :)

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    #1415
    frostyjacks
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Defunding planned parenthood will directly effect millions of women. It's the largest cancer screening service in the country.

    There's one reason.

    Then there's obamacare. The marches have already had a significant effect in sending a message that it needs to be treated carefully not some vague promises of a replacement sometime in the future.

    What else?

    It was a message to send to a thin skinned misogynistic narcissist that he may not be as popular as he thinks he is and that he needs the support of congressmen who will be up for election in two years.

    Wouldn't they have been better mobilising in the run up to the election? I mean, it's a little silly protesting against Trump after he's already won the election. They presumably had some sense of entitlement; that Hilary would just waltz up Pennsylvania Av. and start throwing abortion pills around like confetti. Never gonna happen ladies.


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    #1416
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Defunding planned parenthood will directly effect millions of women. It's the largest cancer screening service in the country.

    There's one reason.

    Then there's obamacare. The marches have already had a significant effect in sending a message that it needs to be treated carefully not some vague promises of a replacement sometime in the future.

    What else?

    It was a message to send to a thin skinned misogynistic narcissist that he may not be as popular as he thinks he is and that he needs the support of congressmen who will be up for election in two years.
    Are you referring to the executive order to reinstate The Mexico City Policy which stops taxpayer funding of groups that perform and promote abortions overseas but does not stop non-abortion international assistance. I believe cancer screening might fall under the category of non-abortion international assistance.

    And in the US, Planned Parenthood Federation of America is the country’s largest abortion provider with affiliates performing more than 300,000 abortions per year, which amounts to approximately one out of every three in the country.

    That march was little more than a liberal women’s march. Divisiveness, exclusiveness, and politicization was running the show. Shunned were feminist pro-life groups, catholic women groups, and other like groups.

    And I saw a poll from yesterday (I believe) that showed Trump's approval rating now at 57% and on a growing trend. True he might not be not be as popular as he thinks he is, but looks like he might just be getting there.


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    #1417
    PopePalpatine
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    So, if the marchers should have given up the day Trump won the election, does that mean the Tea Party should have kept stumm about Obamacare? After all, they should have mobilised before Obama won in 2008 and 2012. :rolleyes:


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    #1418
    Harika
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    Amerika wrote: »

    And I saw a poll from yesterday (I believe) that showed Trump's approval rating now at 57% and on a growing trend. True he might not be not be as popular as he thinks he is, but looks like he might just be getting there.

    I think this falls under "Alternative Fact" https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/3-days-into-trumps-presidency-45-percent-of-americans-disapprove-of-his-performance/ Three Days Into Trump’s Presidency, 45 Percent Of Americans Approve Of His Performance, but hey it is up to earlier!


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    #1419
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    So, if the marchers should have given up the day Trump won the election, does that mean the Tea Party should have kept stumm about Obamacare? After all, they should have mobilised before Obama won in 2008 and 2012. :rolleyes:
    The Tea Party began as a protest movement against GW Bush's spending at the end of his reign. And the protests had a coherent message... focusing on eliminating excessive taxes and excessive spending, abiding by the US Constitution, and reducing the size and power of an abusive government. What was the coherent message of the Women’s March? They hate all men, other then the men who were transitioning to become women?


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    #1420
    InTheTrees
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    it's a little silly protesting against Trump after he's already won the election.

    It's not a protest about the election. It's a demonstration of the level of opposition to the president's policies.

    It's a message. A big message. And it appears to have been heard too.


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    #1421
    Zubeneschamali
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    Amerika wrote: »
    That march was little more than a liberal women’s march.

    Oh noes!


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    #1422
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Harika wrote: »
    I think this falls under "Alternative Fact" https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/3-days-into-trumps-presidency-45-percent-of-americans-disapprove-of-his-performance/ Three Days Into Trump’s Presidency, 45 Percent Of Americans Approve Of His Performance, but hey it is up to earlier!

    Remember when ya’ll were touting fivethirtyeight as the be-all and end-all authority on the election? And I was touting the IBD/TIPP poll as something we should be really looking at (which had Trump leading) as it was one of the most accurate polls in the prior election? Thought I was crazy, didn't you?

    So you can ignore the evidence I present, but do so at your own peril. ;)

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan24


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    #1423
    InTheTrees
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    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    So, if the marchers should have given up the day Trump won the election, does that mean the Tea Party should have kept stumm about Obamacare? After all, they should have mobilised before Obama won in 2008 and 2012. :rolleyes:

    It's mystery isn't it?

    Apparently they think you should only criticize a president right before the election.


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    #1424
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Harika wrote: »
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/3-days-into-trumps-presidency-45-percent-of-americans-disapprove-of-his-performance/

    This story is a little misleading as it says "it’s the lowest job approval rating for any new president since at least Harry Truman in 1945" which is ambiguous, since it could be read as saying that Truman's was lower - but in fact it means the lowest ever measured, period, including Truman in 1945.

    And it is a LOT lower, the lowest previously measured was Dubya at +32, highest Truman at +84, while Trump's is a big fat zero.


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    #1425
    rgossip30
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Such as?

    Enough .


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    #1426
    PopePalpatine
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    Amerika wrote: »
    The Tea Party began as a protest movement against GW Bush's spending at the end of his reign. And the protests had a coherent message... focusing on eliminating excessive taxes and excessive spending, abiding by the US Constitution, and reducing the size and power of an abusive government. What was the coherent message of the Women’s March? They hate all men, other then the men who were transitioning to become women?

    Nice strawmanning there. :rolleyes:

    In fairness, you could argue that the Tea Party began prior to Obama...as Ron Paul's Presidential campaign, before being hijacked after Obama's inauguration.


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    #1427
    Amerika
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    It's mystery isn't it?

    Apparently they think you should only criticize a president right before the election.

    IMO, the time to protest Trump was when these women went into the ballot box on election day. But after he won and before any of his administration policies go into effect... Come on! The fact is Trump got 53% of the white women’s vote. This ‘protest’ appears to be little more than a bunch of Trump hating people who resent the fact that he actually won.


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    #1428
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Nice strawmanning there. :rolleyes:

    In fairness, you could argue that the Tea Party began prior to Obama...as Ron Paul's Presidential campaign, before being hijacked after Obama's inauguration.

    As a member of the Tea Party, you'd think I'd remember being hijacked if it actually happened.


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    #1429
    rgossip30
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    https://twitter.com/lsarsour/status/823694696870514688?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/linda-sarsours-muslim-identity-politics-epitomize-feminisms-hypocrisy/

    http://www.tmn.today/2017/01/womens-march-organizer-supports-sharia-law/?source=Trump

    This lady was one of the leaders at the women's march .


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    #1430
    alastair
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    Amerika wrote: »
    The fact is Trump got 53% of the white women’s vote.

    Ah, case closed then. Because Trump's not getting a majority of women's votes (or American's votes) is just a distraction from the real concern.


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    #1431
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    alastair wrote: »
    Ah, case closed then. Because Trump's not getting a majority of women's votes (or American's votes) is just a distraction from the real concern.
    So, what is the real concern, then?


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    #1432
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Amerika wrote: »
    So, what is the real concern, then?

    Something racial - by the looks of it. You brought colour into the equation, not me. Do tell.


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    #1433
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    alastair wrote: »
    Something racial - by the looks of it. You brought colour into the equation, not me. Do tell.

    Buy the looks of the pictures of the Women's Marches, the vast majority of women were white, and white women made up the vast majority of the women vote. Why do you people always go straight for the racist tag?


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    #1434
    Itssoeasy
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    I see that Donald trump has signed executive orders to restart the pipelines that were stopped. The keystone and the the North Dakota one. I've not seen much reaction the keystone one but the North Dakota one the native Americans are pissed off.


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    #1435
    alastair
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    Amerika wrote: »
    Buy the looks of the pictures of the Women's Marches, the vast majority of women were white, and white women made up the vast majority of the women vote. Why do you people always go straight for the racist tag?

    Possibly because you were attempting to make some sort of a point (still unclear to me) entirely on the basis of race? Just a suggestion.


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    #1436
    KingBrian2
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I see that Donald trump has signed executive orders to restart the pipelines that were stopped. The keystone and the the North Dakota one. I've not seen much reaction the keystone one but the North Dakota one the native Americans are pissed off.

    That was a big deal for those people. Protesting for a long time and they got excited when their movement was making inroads. Trump has derailed the whole movement with a stroke of a pen.


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    #1437
    Akrasia
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    That was a big deal for those people. Protesting for a long time and they got excited when their movement was making inroads. Trump has derailed the whole movement with a stroke of a pen.

    His donors are already getting their money's worth


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    #1438
    Itssoeasy
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    I see Donald trump has placed a ban on EPA employees releasing info to social media or taking to reporters. So is he trying to control the flow on info from the EPA ?


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    #1439
    PopePalpatine
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    Akrasia wrote: »
    His donors are already getting their money's worth

    The swamp just got ten feet deeper!


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    #1440
    Billy86
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    rgossip30 wrote: »
    Enough .

    You say you disagree with some of his policies, so it would be interesting to know which you do disagree with in a thread about the president and policies he is going to be looking to enact, in the politics forum.


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    #1441
    Overheal
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    Amerika wrote: »
    The Tea Party began as a protest movement against GW Bush's spending at the end of his reign.

    Alternative Facts? The Tea Party was launched in 2009. Thanks for playing.
    Amerika wrote: »
    Remember when ya’ll were touting fivethirtyeight as the be-all and end-all authority on the election? And I was touting the IBD/TIPP poll as something we should be really looking at (which had Trump leading) as it was one of the most accurate polls in the prior election? Thought I was crazy, didn't you?

    So you can ignore the evidence I present, but do so at your own peril. ;)

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan24

    538 still had his victory as statistically possible. He rolled a 6 and won. Good for him, but it was predicted in the model.
    What was the coherent message of the Women’s March? They hate all men, other then the men who were transitioning to become women?
    Ron Swanson is not trans.

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