VW ID.3

Black_Knight · 08-07-2020 4:09pm

slave1 wrote: »

I had a relatively narrow entrance too, took a sledge to it, kept pillar intact, took two foot of wall down, moved pillar the two feet and boom, half a day later and all done and dusted

Considered it when we got our driveway paved, but..
1. main road, so would have been obvious and in need of planning
2. We've a gate, so widening the entrance = buying a new gate = wider gate = bigger inswing from the gate thus limiting the length of car that can fit in the drive. And we've a slight incline so wider gates would/could end up hitting the ground before they fully open.

Folding gate I hear you say, but sure that'd just eat up the width I just got by knocking that pier.

TLDR: Considered it, didn't do it, too late to do it now. Maybe in a later life Tesla

drunkmonkey · 08-07-2020 4:15pm

The last ones I bought are these https://eurobaby.com/maxi-cosi-rodi-airprotect-child-car-seat/?sku=8751671110&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZX4BRDmARIsAFYh7ZK9rHpL1LSY5TGNc6-fR-3lhuq0Voz8VuM1lkLQ8lFvu4KLx5fZZyQaAsiwEALw_wcB
You'd probably find slimmer. There very light and easy in and out if your swapping them between cars though. The 2yr old is in a more protective seat, half thinking of buying a ratchet strap to keep her in the seat though.

timsey tiger · 09-07-2020 9:39am

I'm currently looking at the id plan and pcp figures for a plus with metallic paint. It's interesting that because of the offer of the first three payments off the overall cost of finance is lower if you opt for a €0 deposit. With the max deposit on the pcp plan of 40% the cost of finance is €235 higher.

mental

Daharmaster · 09-07-2020 10:02am

What monthly pcp figures are being asked for for the plus with 0% deposit?

charlieIRL · 09-07-2020 10:25am

unkel wrote: »

How on earth do they fit with the child seats and boosters? A Golf is tiny!

They are bigger than you think, I came from an A4 Avant to the eGolf and bring my 2 and a neighbours 2 kids to school - (14, 16 & 17 y/o in the back) and they said they have as much room in the golf as the audi!!

Boot is tiny though.

09-07-2020 10:46am

Audi's are not that spacious, A3 and A4, to be honest my i3 feels roomier than an A3, it's not quite as wide but definitely more rear legroom.

09-07-2020 10:58am

ID3 ready for mass production. After the first edition will come 8 pre-configured versions with WLTP approval which should allow VW to maximise production. There will be a few more colours and the 8 pre-configured specs will go from low end to high end. These are not to be confused with trim levels. They are configurations which have been WLTP'd.
There are discussions about it on the german forum goingelectric.de

In other news it appears there will be no Seat El-Born based on the ID3 and instead there will be a Cupra with a Cupra sized purchase price. VAG want to maximise profit and it appears selling a "Felt spec" ID3 badged as a Cupra is more profitable than a base model Seat El Born.

Jack lemmon · 09-07-2020 12:58pm

Daharmaster wrote: »

What monthly pcp figures are being asked for for the plus with 0% deposit?

On the 1st it’s €473 plus €17,560 final. First 3 months are payed for you(not deferred).

timsey tiger · 09-07-2020 1:15pm

Jack lemmon wrote: »

On the 1st it’s €473 plus €17,560 final. First 3 months are payed for you(not deferred).

Those look like the payments on the id plan as opposed to std. pcp offer, without the metallic paint. Overall cost of credit is higher with the id plan than with pcp as the final payment is higher. Final payment is approx. €14,000 on pcp.

Matqo · 09-07-2020 1:18pm

Just canceled my reservation after being informed that test drives won't be available. Hopefully the reservation is released into a pool for someone else waiting for the 1st edition!

KCross · 09-07-2020 1:49pm

Matqo wrote: »

Just canceled my reservation after being informed that test drives won't be available. Hopefully the reservation is released into a pool for someone else waiting for the 1st edition!

Try another dealer. I've been offered a test drive before committing.

Silent Running · 09-07-2020 2:03pm

KCross wrote: »

Try another dealer. I've been offered a test drive before committing.

So have I. Good advice to contact other dealers.

drunkmonkey · 09-07-2020 2:54pm

Not really a review but a few snipits..

Despite heavy rain showers and just 2.5 degrees above Dovrefjell, energy consumption on the trip to Trondheim was 14 kWh / 100 km.
What's that mean for the uneducated here?

-The first impression of the car also gives everyone who is waiting for ID.3 1 ST to look forward to:

- The car seems very cash and sporty on the road, it has performance in the GTE class . At the same time, it seems like a bigger car than it is, almost a bit like an SUV. You are sitting tall, have a good overview, and the suspension comfort is very good. Not least, it has been quiet, Hekneby comments.

https://www.volkswagen.no/no/elbil/siste-nytt/forste-testtur-med-id3-i-norge.html?fbclid=IwAR0riX0Mfu2ZmEQyMdwc4TfhN7c_2X12HciBEJCwa6Gb88dgY792mj3tCys

eagerv · 09-07-2020 3:06pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Not really a review but a few snipits..

Despite heavy rain showers and just 2.5 degrees above Dovrefjell, energy consumption on the trip to Trondheim was 14 kWh / 100 km.
What's that mean for the uneducated here?

-The first impression of the car also gives everyone who is waiting for ID.3 1 ST to look forward to:

- The car seems very cash and sporty on the road, it has performance in the GTE class . At the same time, it seems like a bigger car than it is, almost a bit like an SUV. You are sitting tall, have a good overview, and the suspension comfort is very good. Not least, it has been quiet, Hekneby comments.

https://www.volkswagen.no/no/elbil/siste-nytt/forste-testtur-med-id3-i-norge.html?fbclid=IwAR0riX0Mfu2ZmEQyMdwc4TfhN7c_2X12HciBEJCwa6Gb88dgY792mj3tCys

Sounds good, so far anyway. 414km on full tank:)

Edit:. I see its from VW, so I believe nothing......

eagerv · 09-07-2020 4:38pm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcdlWSVXkAApgI7.jpg

Entry level 1st. Looks good IMO.

drunkmonkey · 09-07-2020 5:15pm

There's a massive amount of room over the wheels, it's really jacked up compared to a golf.

Gazzler82 · 09-07-2020 9:01pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Boot + frunk would give us nice usable space. The lack of a hatchback doesn't bother me. Ioniq is my first hatchback in a long time.

Got the measuring tape out again last night (our gate)... unless it's a bargain that I can flip without losing money, i've resigned myself to not owning an S. It's a sad day.

I cancelled my ID3 order as having a 3rd. Slightly off topic but outside of a model S any other suggestions for a family BEV for 3 under 3.5!! Current plan is a new SMax but open to suggestions

drunkmonkey · 09-07-2020 9:07pm

Is it mainly city driving or do you live in the country...5008 will fit 3 child seats across the middle seat all with ISO fix. I'd go for a 7 seater of some kind what ever you do.

rx8 · 09-07-2020 9:11pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is it mainly city driving or do you live in the country...5008 will fit 3 child seats across the middle seat all with ISO fix. I'd go for a 7 seater of some kind what ever you do.

5008 is a gorgeous looking motor, inside and out.

JPA · 09-07-2020 10:27pm

rx8 wrote: »

5008 is a gorgeous looking motor, inside and out.

They asked for a BEV. Although an electric 5008 is coming. Sometime.

timsey tiger · 09-07-2020 11:19pm

KCross wrote: »

Try another dealer. I've been offered a test drive before committing.

Me too, but worded differently. I'll be able to back out after a test drive.

mike_2009 · 10-07-2020 8:11am

Deleted User wrote: »

In other news it appears there will be no Seat El-Born based on the ID3 and instead there will be a Cupra with a Cupra sized purchase price. VAG want to maximise profit and it appears selling a "Felt spec" ID3 badged as a Cupra is more profitable than a base model Seat El Born.

Possibly but this is all rumour. 100 x Cupra's at a higher margin vs 5,000 base el-born at a lower margin, why wouldn't they want both?! It's not as if Seat has an abundance of electric golf size cars in their line up to avoid EU fines. They need numbers badly. At least that's what I hope. I can't afford a Tesla.

Gazzler82 · 10-07-2020 9:14am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is it mainly city driving or do you live in the country...5008 will fit 3 child seats across the middle seat all with ISO fix. I'd go for a 7 seater of some kind what ever you do.

Generally longest trip would be to my folks c 64k round trip. Ya looking at 5008 and SMax wife’s preference is SMax as she has Cmax and she’ll be the primary driver!!

Shefwedfan · 10-07-2020 9:43am

Why cancel it? I have 4 in back of eGolf

3 month, 3, 5, 7 ages :-)

Gazzler82 · 10-07-2020 12:01pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Why cancel it? I have 4 in back of eGolf

3 month, 3, 5, 7 ages :-)

Cause we are now changing her car and not mine!!

Cyrus · 10-07-2020 12:34pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Why cancel it? I have 4 in back of eGolf

3 month, 3, 5, 7 ages :-)

how does that work

:P

unkel · 10-07-2020 12:59pm

Cyrus wrote: »

how does that work :P

Multimac.

And he forgot to mention that he, his wife and all his kids are from the Pygmee tribe :pac:

Miscreant · 10-07-2020 4:17pm

unkel wrote: »

Multimac.

And he forgot to mention that he, his wife and all his kids are from the Pygmee tribe :pac:

A friend of mine had one of these for his 4 kids in the back of an Octavia. It was great while the kids were small and until number 5 came along.... He had to get a bigger jalopy then

seant5215 · 10-07-2020 4:42pm

Hi Guys,

For anybody that has confirmed their order with VW, has this reflected in the VW online Portal?
Does it confirm the order or still direct you to "Choose your car and convert to order"?

Thanks!

Jack lemmon · 10-07-2020 4:51pm

seant5215 wrote: »

Hi Guys,

For anybody that has confirmed their order with VW, has this reflected in the VW online Portal?
Does it confirm the order or still direct you to "Choose your car and convert to order"?

Thanks!

Got this email back from VW after I confirmed order

By redeeming your registration number ‘edit’ , you have successfully ordered your ID.3 1ST Special Edition. You will be among the very first pre-bookers to receive their exclusive ID.3 1ST Special Edition.

I hadn’t checked the portal but it says

The voucher has been redeemed.
Thank you.

return guide · 10-07-2020 4:51pm

seant5215 wrote: »

Hi Guys,

For anybody that has confirmed their order with VW, has this reflected in the VW online Portal?
Does it confirm the order or still direct you to "Choose your car and convert to order"?

Thanks!

Can you link to the online portal? never knew there was one.

seant5215 · 10-07-2020 5:01pm

return guide wrote: »

Can you link to the online portal? never knew there was one.

It's the link into the pre-booking Portal, it was due to reflect the order status.

https://www.volkswagen.ie/app/prebooking/id3/vw-ie/en

return guide · 10-07-2020 5:05pm

seant5215 wrote: »

It's the link into the pre-booking Portal, it was due to reflect the order status.

https://www.volkswagen.ie/app/prebooking/id3/vw-ie/en

Just checked and mine is showing the same as Jack Lemmon above. Ordered on Tuesday.

drunkmonkey · 13-07-2020 4:00pm

Is it just me or is the 1st edition now looking like bad value the normal ones seem cheaper and better equipped. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Also delivery in October so not much of a delivery time frame difference.

sales of ID.3 start on July 20

https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/emission-free-mobility-for-all-sales-of-id3-start-on-july-20-6229?fbclid=IwAR0Jt9b1yrxSqyoPyCUDrp5SbTIXFMFjuJ1ToZHnDAKj3ab7KyUv50ExvtA

KCross · 13-07-2020 4:10pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is it just me or is the 1st edition now looking like bad value the normal ones seem cheaper and better equipped. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Also delivery in October so not much of a delivery time frame difference.

sales of ID.3 start on July 20

https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/emission-free-mobility-for-all-sales-of-id3-start-on-july-20-6229?fbclid=IwAR0Jt9b1yrxSqyoPyCUDrp5SbTIXFMFjuJ1ToZHnDAKj3ab7KyUv50ExvtA

Hard to tell much from that article as the spec and pricing won’t translate to Ireland.

Don’t think you’ll get a series production model in 2020 here either. The sweet spot is still the 1st trim level here for €34k.

mike_2009 · 13-07-2020 4:22pm

I assume the price listed is after German grants, if so the price range for the 7 available models is:
ID.3 "ProPerformance" for €35,574.95
ID.3 “Life” for €37,787.72
ID.3 “Style” for €40,946.04
ID.3 “Business” for €41,287.22
ID.3 “Family” for €42,305.87
ID.3 “Tech” for €44,810
ID.3 "Max" for €43,680.32
or longer range:
ID.3 “Tour” for €45,917.48 (not sure what the €40,936.31 price is for)
I just thought listing them together would be easier for people to see the price range.
1st edition has a €7K jump between each trim so this is interesting as the cheapest to most expensive difference is only €8,106. I'm sure the VRT and other Irish Tax regimes will trash this quickly but it makes the choice more interesting than a 7K jump each time. I'd consider anything €35K but would pay a little more if it was worth it. LED Matrix headlights only kick in with the Style @ €41K though. Hmm...

Shango · 13-07-2020 4:26pm

But they dont get the badge.... thats gotta be worth 10k at least.....in 100 or so years...

Cyrus · 13-07-2020 4:26pm

mike_2009 wrote: »

I assume the price listed is after German grants, if so the price range for the 7 available models is:
ID.3 "ProPerformance" for €35,574.95
ID.3 “Life” for €37,787.72
ID.3 “Style” for €40,946.04
ID.3 “Business” for €41,287.22
ID.3 “Family” for €42,305.87
ID.3 “Tech” for €44,810
ID.3 "Max" for €43,680.32
or longer range:
ID.3 “Tour” for €45,917.48 (not sure what the €40,936.31 price is for)
I just thought listing them together would be easier for people to see the price range.
1st edition has a €7K jump between each trim so this is interesting as the cheapest to most expensive difference is only €8,106. I'm sure the VRT and other Irish Tax regimes will trash this quickly but it makes the choice more interesting than a 7K jump each time. I'd consider anything €35K but would pay a little more if it was worth it. LED Matrix headlights only kick in with the Style @ €41K though. Hmm...

assuming they will follow the trend all cars will be prepped for the matrix head lights and you can pay after to enable them...but who knows

supposed to be an option on the tron but audi havent got a store live yet!

drunkmonkey · 13-07-2020 4:27pm

I wouldn't be so sure there after grant prices, it would make the entry mode 45k before grants which I doubt very much it is.

JPA · 13-07-2020 4:31pm

I thought there was going to be an ID3 close to 30k?

liamog · 13-07-2020 4:44pm

Those are all ProPerformance based models, i.e. 58 kWh battery and the 150 kW motor upgrade.
The 30,000 model was the 45 kWh battery and 93 kW motor.

eagerv · 13-07-2020 7:00pm

A video showing a few views of the entry level 1st..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWuwis5_hg

Jack lemmon · 13-07-2020 7:21pm

JPA wrote: »

I thought there was going to be an ID3 close to 30k?

The Pure entry-level model with a range of up to 330 km (WLTP) will be available at a price of less than €30,000 a few months later.

September1 · 13-07-2020 7:23pm

mike_2009 wrote: »

I assume the price listed is after German grants, if so the price range for the 7 available models is:

So prices for Ireland based on following calculation, add 9480 German grant, divide by 1.16 to remove German VAT, multiply by 1.23 to add Irish VAT, multiply by 1.14 to add Irish VRT and deduct 10k for VRT rebate and SEAI grant:

ID.3 "ProPerformance" for €44,462
ID.3 “Life” for €47,137
ID.3 “Style” for €50,955
ID.3 “Business” for €51,367
ID.3 “Family” for €52,598
ID.3 “Tech” for €55,625
ID.3 "Max" for €54,260
or longer range:
ID.3 “Tour” for €56,964

Jack lemmon · 13-07-2020 7:23pm

liamog wrote: »

Those are all ProPerformance based models, i.e. 58 kWh battery and the 150 kW motor upgrade.
The 30,000 model was the 45 kWh battery and 93 kW motor.

Part of the 30,000 “preorders” I wonder............

JPA · 13-07-2020 7:31pm

liamog wrote: »

Those are all ProPerformance based models, i.e. 58 kWh battery and the 150 kW motor upgrade.
The 30,000 model was the 45 kWh battery and 93 kW motor.

Thanks, a confusing amount of options will be available it seems to me.

eagerv · 13-07-2020 7:36pm

September1 wrote: »

So prices for Ireland based on following calculation, add 9480 German grant, divide by 1.16 to remove German VAT, multiply by 1.23 to add Irish VAT, multiply by 1.14 to add Irish VRT and deduct 10k for VRT rebate and SEAI grant:

ID.3 "ProPerformance" for €44,462
ID.3 “Life” for €47,137
ID.3 “Style” for €50,955
ID.3 “Business” for €51,367
ID.3 “Family” for €52,598
ID.3 “Tech” for €55,625
ID.3 "Max" for €54,260
or longer range:
ID.3 “Tour” for €56,964

Looks like the pro Performance and the style will be priced similar to the base 1st and Plus. But they are throwing in a few extras to the firsts like two tone paint.

drunkmonkey · 13-07-2020 8:38pm

eagerv wrote: »

Looks like the pro Performance and the style will be priced similar to the base 1st and Plus. But they are throwing in a few extras to the firsts like two tone paint.

There way more expensive than the 1st, 10k of grants are included in the prices they posted.

eagerv · 13-07-2020 8:48pm

See September1's post above, where he estimated Irish prices converting from the German ones. On the higher spec ones there would be some residual VRT also.

liamog · 13-07-2020 9:11pm

September1 wrote: »

So prices for Ireland based on following calculation, add 9480 German grant, divide by 1.16 to remove German VAT, multiply by 1.23 to add Irish VAT, multiply by 1.14 to add Irish VRT and deduct 10k for VRT rebate and SEAI grant:

ID.3 "ProPerformance" for €44,462
ID.3 “Life” for €47,137
ID.3 “Style” for €50,955
ID.3 “Business” for €51,367
ID.3 “Family” for €52,598
ID.3 “Tech” for €55,625
ID.3 "Max" for €54,260
or longer range:
ID.3 “Tour” for €56,964

Why are you adding the German grant to the non grant German prices?

The ProPerfromance is effectively the ID.3 1st without the special styling, so no way will it come in at 10,000 more than the 1st pre orders.

VW ID.3

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