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Final results! decisive YES vote!!

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  • #152
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    bayviewclose wrote: »
    Yes some guy on BBC news noted that we had two referendums on treaty and as such UK should have their say on matter. And banner running across the screen was that Ireland only country in EU to have actually voted on the referendum.

    Some guy on BBC said UK should have one therefore it's true? Personally I'd say "some guy on BBC news" has less of a chance of becoming PM than Cameron so I'm going to go with what he says.


  • #153
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    bayviewclose wrote: »
    Yes some guy on BBC news noted that we had two referendums on treaty and as such UK should have their say on matter. And banner running across the screen was that Ireland only country in EU to have actually voted on the referendum.

    well thats what they get for having a monarchy and no constitution :D


  • #154
    WhiskeyTangoFox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭WhiskeyTangoFox


    rumour wrote: »

    Thankfully, never ever to be trusted with a serious decision regarding the EU ever again.

    +1


  • #155
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Prinz,

    I believe that media guy mentioned by Bay was David Cameron, he's under a sh1t load of pressure now from anti treaty folk in the UK to declare a referendum, and if I heard RTE news correctly Tony Connelly said that Mr Cameron has called for one...can anyone confirm this???

    [Googly eyes not finding anything at the moment for me]


  • #156
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Malty_T wrote: »
    Prinz,
    I believe that media guy mentioned by Bay was David Cameron, he's under a sh1t load of pressure now from anti treaty folk in the UK to declare a referendum, and if I heard RTE news correctly Tony Connelly said that Mr Cameron has called for one...can anyone confirm this???
    “As long as that treaty is being discussed or debated anywhere in the Europe, we will keep fighting for that referendum and if those are the circumstances at the time of the next general election we will hold that referendum and I would ask the British people to vote No to that treaty,” he told the BBC."

    - David Cameron

    "Our policy will remain as it is unless and until the treaty comes into force. If and when that happens we would announce at that time our new policy to deal with a new situation.”

    William Hague

    Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/cameron-under-pressure-over-lisbon-referendum-428824.html#ixzz0SuSCHwR5

    If Lisbon has been ratified they won't have the political stones to row back on it and sink it. Basically they're playing to the crowd for the Tory annual conference, but Cameron and Hague know that if Lisbon has been dealt with by next summer they won't be holding a referendum. It's a moot point and a classic opposition promise, that Cameron knows he won't actually be faced to deliver on.


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  • #157
    Hitman Actual
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Malty_T wrote: »
    Prinz,

    I believe that media guy mentioned by Bay was David Cameron, he's under a sh1t load of pressure now from anti treaty folk in the UK to declare a referendum, and if I heard RTE news correctly Tony Connelly said that Mr Cameron has called for one...can anyone confirm this???

    [Googly eyes not finding anything at the moment for me]
    Have a read of this analysis by BBC EU correspondent Gavin Hewitt. Cameron is getting himself into a very tricky situation, politically. He'll split the conservatives, all who obviously are not eurosceptic; he may lose votes now whether he pushes ahead with his referendum plans or not; he'll put the UK in a very tricky political situation with the EU.

    Also, an article describing the Czech situation.

    This Treaty is almost done and dusted, imo. The few rejectionists that are left are running out of political power to do much about it.

    BTW, another interesting situation developing in the next few weeks will be who loses their Commissioner in November. There can only be a maximum of 26 Commissioners from that date until the Treaty is fully ratified.


  • #158
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Thanks, Prinz and Hitman,

    Regarding the commissioner thingy, I actually feel that that should be us because we've held this bloody treaty for long enough causing this situation to arise in the first place - It would be merely a show of our goodwill because seriously, like, Ireland help up the entire process.


  • #159
    heyjude
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭heyjude


    Daftendirekt wrote: »
    After today, I have a lot more faith in the Irish electorate.

    The same electorate that voted Fianna Fail into power for most of the last 20 years ! :confused: :rolleyes:


  • #160
    swampgas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭swampgas


    SV wrote: »
    I'm sure you are.
    You were abusive (and scare mongering) enough throughout the whole campaign to have finally got what you want.

    Erm - I think you're mixing the Yes and No campaigns up there ....


  • #161
    PaulieD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 932 ✭✭✭PaulieD


    marco_polo wrote: »
    Of course, like any Irish citizen, you would have had to have had a job in this country to claim social welfare first, but why let the facts get in the way.

    Nonsense as EU citizens- they are entitled to Supplementary Welfare Allowance (SWA), Rent Allowance, Fuel Allowance and discretionary Exceptional Needs Payments such as Clothing Allowance. Also, once they have worked for two years in Ireland, they are entitled to the same benefits as an Irish citizen.


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  • #162
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    So the side with the most money "won", big surprise.
    The Yes lies were more persuasive than the No lies so clearly the marketing people working for the Yes side have earned a nice fat bonus from the pocket of Johnny taxpayer.

    I'm sure this is a joyous time for the Yes side, I voted No last year and again this year, and I certainly didn't feel the need to celebrate last years result or rub it in the faces of the Yes side, so hopefully we can have a civilised reaction to the referendum result free from name calling and insults.

    My opinion is that Ireland has made the wrong decision and for the wrong reasons. However we now have to live with the fact that we have voted Yes and get on with our lives and forget about the mud slinging and lies of the last few months.
    The ratification of the Lisbon treaty still has a couple of minor hurdles to clear and we will all watch intently to see how smoothly that runs and I'm sure we will have debates on future actions taken by the EU as a result of Lisbon.

    Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to queue for one of these jobs we've been promised, hopefully we all won't be waiting too long.

    Glazers Out!



  • #163
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    heyjude wrote: »
    The same electorate that voted Fianna Fail into power for most of the last 20 years ! :confused: :rolleyes:

    You mean the Fianna Fail governments that presided over the unprecedented economic growth?

    Yeah, the electorate have done a pretty good job.


  • #164
    Mario007
    Registered Users Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Mario007


    nullzero wrote: »
    Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to queue for one of these jobs we've been promised, hopefully we all won't be waiting too long.

    don't worry you wont. we'll decrease the minimum wage to 1.84 and suddenly everyone can get a job;)


  • #165
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Fuhrer wrote: »
    You mean the Fianna Fail governments that presided over the unprecedented economic growth?

    Yeah, the electorate have done a pretty good job.

    To be fair a small child could have seen that lowering the corpate tax level would attract direct foreign investment. It was FF's failure to take the economic prosperity we had and channel it into decent infrastructure that is most puzzling and annoying.
    We should have been set up in terms of infrastructure for when the inevitable crash came.
    FF carried on as if the bubble would never burst when history shows that all economic bubbles burst.
    They have been irresponsible with the power the people placed in their hands.
    They are meant to be doing what is best for us the people, instead they did what was handy for them and their cronies and pals and that is unforgiveable.

    Glazers Out!



  • #166
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Mario007 wrote: »
    don't worry you wont. we'll decrease the minimum wage to 1.84 and suddenly everyone can get a job;)

    The dole queue aint looking so bad now eh?:D

    Glazers Out!



  • #167
    Bob_Harris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭Bob_Harris


    Mario007 wrote: »
    don't worry you wont. we'll decrease the minimum wage to 1.84 and suddenly everyone can get a job;)

    Mute argument. The majority feel for the jobs and recovery lie, not the minimum wage lie.

    Also, the COIR 1.84 poster had a question mark. The jobs and recovery posters did not.


  • #168
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Bob_Harris wrote: »
    Mute argument. The majority feel for the jobs and recovery lie, not the minimum wage lie.

    Also, the COIR 1.84 poster had a question mark. The jobs and recovery posters did not.

    The Irish electorate love falling for lies.
    Just look at the whoppers FF were pedalling before the last election.

    I think most people knew Lisbon was a bad deal, but just couldn't wait to start complaining about it when it starts to negatively affect their lives even though they voted for it, a bit like FF.

    Glazers Out!



  • #169
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Bob_Harris wrote: »
    Mute argument. The majority feel for the jobs and recovery lie, not the minimum wage lie.

    Also, the COIR 1.84 poster had a question mark. The jobs and recovery posters did not.


    Whats a mute arguement?


  • #170
    Mario007
    Registered Users Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Mario007


    Bob_Harris wrote: »
    Mute argument. The majority feel for the jobs and recovery lie, not the minimum wage lie.

    Also, the COIR 1.84 poster had a question mark. The jobs and recovery posters did not.

    no many fell for the 1.84 lie too.

    if you want to get technical the jobs posters never specified if the jobs will be created or just the existing maintained or that less jobs will be lost...

    and also if we actually did lower our minimum wage to 1.84 it would bring in jobs:D so the argument stands


  • #171
    _Buck Rogers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭_Buck Rogers


    Disgusted with the result and at every one of the clowns and fairies who voted yes.


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  • #172
    Bob_Harris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭Bob_Harris


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Whats a mute arguement?

    When people hilariously bundle all of the idiotic fringe group No arguments into one sentence as they try counter the claim that most people voted Yes out of fear and the promise of economic recovery.


  • #173
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,367 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    _Buck Rogers wrote: »
    Disgusted with the result and at every one of the clowns and fairies who voted yes.

    That would be over 1.2m 'clowns and fairies' ;)


  • #174
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    That would be over 1.2m 'clowns and fairies' ;)

    UKIP's former MEPs, Robert Kilroy-Silk, once described Ireland as a land of
    "peasants, priests and pixies"

    (Daily Express, 9 Nov, 1992).


  • #175
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    That would be over 1.2m 'clowns and fairies' ;)

    That would make him pretty damn disgusted:cool:

    Glazers Out!



  • #176
    _Buck Rogers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭_Buck Rogers


    Yes it would. Not often ashamed to be Irish, I am today.


  • #177
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    _Buck Rogers wrote: »
    Disgusted with the result and at every one of the clowns and fairies who voted yes.
    Go into town with a megaphone and call those 1.2 million people clowns and fairies and give them a real reason for your disgust.

    Your only disgusted because you lost the "battle", its not about what side wins, its what about whats best for the country.

    And believe it or not, While the treaty itself has no bearing on the economy of Ireland, It will encourage spending and boost the economy because of a little something called human psychology.

    If no had won we would of been further thrown into reducing spending and killing the economy because of a fear the EU will abandon us.


  • #178
    Mario007
    Registered Users Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Mario007


    Bob_Harris wrote: »
    When people hilariously bundle all of the idiotic fringe group No arguments into one sentence as they try counter the claim that most people voted Yes out of fear and the promise of economic recovery.

    i was at a few lisbon debate and none of them circulated around jobs and recovery. we all just laughed at those posters around the place to be honest. the issues were relating eu and lisbon, not the context of the events.
    i was even canvassing with FG posters and did talk to the people about the jobs thingy but managed to persuade them on the basis of whats in the treaty.
    so i don't think many people were thinking i'll vote yes and get a job tommorow.


    but coincidently when the voting on the islands started the unemployment figures were down and we all know that they voted in favour of the treaty so maybe FG and FF were right:rolleyes::D


  • #179
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Bob_Harris wrote: »
    When people hilariously bundle all of the idiotic fringe group No arguments into one sentence as they try counter the claim that most people voted Yes out of fear and the promise of economic recovery.


    You mean Moot, right?


  • #180
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    _Buck Rogers wrote: »
    Yes it would. Not often ashamed to be Irish, I am today.

    I have to agree with you.
    As a nation we chickened out.
    Shows how much of a "me too" society we are these days.
    Promise us jobs, jobs=money=fancy cars and holidays and useless crap.
    Sad excuse for a nation really, and we used to be so proud, and poor it must be said. I guess we'd rather be rich and morally bankrupt than hold onto any sense of moral courage.
    Thats probably the lasting legacy of the celtic tiger, we turned into a bunch of selfish dickheads:rolleyes:

    Glazers Out!



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  • #181
    Bob_Harris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭Bob_Harris


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    You mean Moot, right?

    You'd think so, but I did actually mean mute.


  • #182
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Bob_Harris wrote: »
    You'd think so, but I did actually mean mute.

    I dont see how mute applies


  • #183
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    Go into town with a megaphone and call those 1.2 million people clowns and fairies and give them a real reason for your disgust.

    Your only disgusted because you lost the "battle", its not about what side wins, its what about whats best for the country.

    And believe it or not, While the treaty itself has no bearing on the economy of Ireland, It will encourage spending and boost the economy because of a little something called human psychology.

    If no had won we would of been further thrown into reducing spending and killing the economy because of a fear the EU will abandon us.

    Nice post, although you're ignoring some pretty stark economic realities in there.
    Lisbon isn't going to suddenly attarct direct foriegn invertment back into Ireland. The game has changed since the 80's and we're no longer as attractive an option for foriegn companies, we have tough competition and wages are a huge issue in where they decide to go and right now we can't compete with other cheaper labour markets in the EU.
    So although we are now EU team players again, we still should be trying to find our own way out of our own mess instead of expecting the EU to bail us out indefinitely.

    Glazers Out!



  • #184
    Plotician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Plotician


    Mario007 wrote: »

    if you want to get technical the jobs posters never specified if the jobs will be created or just the existing maintained or that less jobs will be lost...

    The posters may have been vague, but (just as one example) you still had Eamonn Walsh saying 'Lisbon will protect and create jobs'. Not only that, he made the statement under the title 'vote for the facts not the flakes'.

    There are others, and maybe Fine Gael specifically feel a bit exposed as they were the unknowing servants of FF on this one. Enda Kenny himself "a yes vote in the Lisbon referendum will help create thousands of new jobs..."

    Anyway it's a done deal now so we'll just have to live with it and move on.

    (and as an edit, nullzero is spot on - it'll be down to ourselves to get ourselves out of the mess - only way is to actually become competitive - natural market rules still exist).


  • #185
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Fuhrer wrote: »
    I dont see how mute applies

    Okay, okay, enough with the pedantic posts, we get the idea I think.

    Glazers Out!



  • #186
    FoxT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    Both sides told lies in this campaign. eu1.84 is a lie. Abortion is a lie. Lisbon=turkey is a lie. Lisbon=more jobs is a lie. Lisbon=fix our economy is a lie. Lisbon=no workers rights is a lie. And, Lisbon = we will end up as an impoveroshed minority is a lie. ( see OP, and BTW, whites in South Africa, are, by definition , not in their own country...figure that one out!)

    The No side was even more dishonest & mendacious than the yes side. Last year, I voted yes. This year I voted yes. Last year , the people of Ireland voted no - the economy was on a roll, nothing was broke, nobody knew what the treaty was about, why vote yes? This year, the people of ireland ran like a herd of stampeded cattle into voting yes.

    It is shameful that a nation of people in a democratic society can be governed by such short-termism. It is shameful that the campaigns run by both sides were so dishonest. I voted yes because I studied the treaty & decided it was the right thing. I may be wrong, but I tried to inform myself & look at the long term issues .I remain disappointed that the Irish electorate are so herdable.


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  • #187
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Who said Lisbon = more jobs?
    Lisbon for sustaining jobs...


  • #188
    Plotician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Plotician


    efb wrote: »
    Who said Lisbon = more jobs?
    Lisbon for sustaining jobs...

    Well i just gave you two examples - Google them if you need to validate.


  • #189
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    FoxT wrote: »
    Both sides told lies in this campaign. eu1.84 is a lie. Abortion is a lie. Lisbon=turkey is a lie. Lisbon=more jobs is a lie. Lisbon=fix our economy is a lie. Lisbon=no workers rights is a lie. And, Lisbon = we will end up as an impoveroshed minority is a lie. ( see OP, and BTW, whites in South Africa, are, by definition , not in their own country...figure that one out!)

    The No side was even more dishonest & mendacious than the yes side. Last year, I voted yes. This year I voted yes. Last year , the people of Ireland voted no - the economy was on a roll, nothing was broke, nobody knew what the treaty was about, why vote yes? This year, the people of ireland ran like a herd of stampeded cattle into voting yes.

    It is shameful that a nation of people in a democratic society can be governed by such short-termism. It is shameful that the campaigns run by both sides were so dishonest. I voted yes because I studied the treaty & decided it was the right thing. I may be wrong, but I tried to inform myself & look at the long term issues .I remain disappointed that the Irish electorate are so herdable.

    To be fair, the economy was on sh1t street at the time of the last referendum. It did get worse admittedly, but you would have to have been spectacularly stupid to not see it getting worse, especially in Ireland with our bullet proof economy based on building houses no one was buying and hoping that foriegn companies wouldn't be wooed by a better deal elsewhere. We were well on the road to ruin in June last year.

    Glazers Out!



  • #190
    Mario007
    Registered Users Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Mario007


    Plotician wrote: »
    The posters may have been vague, but (just as one example) you still had Eamonn Walsh saying 'Lisbon will protect and create jobs'. Not only that, he made the statement under the title 'vote for the facts not the flakes'.

    There are others, and maybe Fine Gael specifically feel a bit exposed as they were the unknowing servants of FF on this one. Enda Kenny himself "a yes vote in the Lisbon referendum will help create thousands of new jobs..."

    Anyway it's a done deal now so we'll just have to live with it and move on.

    (and as an edit, nullzero is spot on - it'll be down to ourselves to get ourselves out of the mess - only way is to actually become competitive - natural market rules still exist).

    well to be honest FG kinda went mad with the job rhetoric. i'm in YFG and i have to admit that. FF was just too vague, Labour was just incompetent to be honest, if we want a summary of the parties.

    it we do get cheap credit from the ECB and we were allowed until 2012 to get our finances back on track without intervention. plus after the last no vote our bonds were very hard to sell on the market.
    with regards to the jobs Lisbon can be used as a starting point to get jobs in, we have regained goodwill and confidence so it will be much easier to attract investors should our cost of doing business fall.


  • #191
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    nullzero wrote: »
    To be fair a small child could have seen that lowering the corpate tax level would attract direct foreign investment. It was FF's failure to take the economic prosperity we had and channel it into decent infrastructure that is most puzzling and annoying.
    We should have been set up in terms of infrastructure for when the inevitable crash came.
    FF carried on as if the bubble would never burst when history shows that all economic bubbles burst.
    They have been irresponsible with the power the people placed in their hands.
    They are meant to be doing what is best for us the people, instead they did what was handy for them and their cronies and pals and that is unforgiveable.

    Good post.
    _Buck Rogers wrote: »
    Disgusted with the result and at every one of the clowns and fairies who voted yes.


    Then you go and thank that! :(

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #192
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,759 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    K-9 wrote: »
    Good post.




    Then you go and thank that! :(

    Well I can't say that I aim to please, or even give a **** about what people think but I'll accept your original compliment and wish you well.

    Glazers Out!



  • #193
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Mario007 wrote: »
    well to be honest FG kinda went mad with the job rhetoric. i'm in YFG and i have to admit that. FF was just too vague, Labour was just incompetent to be honest, if we want a summary of the parties.

    it we do get cheap credit from the ECB and we were allowed until 2012 to get our finances back on track without intervention. plus after the last no vote our bonds were very hard to sell on the market.
    with regards to the jobs Lisbon can be used as a starting point to get jobs in, we have regained goodwill and confidence so it will be much easier to attract investors should our cost of doing business fall.

    My impression was it seemed to be the FG posters too. Not sure, didn't pay to much attention to them.

    I think it will be up to us how we use it, as before. We wasted it in the 70/80's, used it in the 90's and wasted it in the last few years. A Yes will definitely do no harm to our position, a No wouldn't look good, though I'm sure after the fuss died down, things would have stabilised.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #194
    Mario007
    Registered Users Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Mario007


    K-9 wrote: »
    My impression was it seemed to be the FG posters too. Not sure, didn't pay to much attention to them.

    I think it will be up to us how we use it, as before. We wasted it in the 70/80's, used it in the 90's and wasted it in the last few years. A Yes will definitely do no harm to our position, a No wouldn't look good, though I'm sure after the fuss died down, things would have stabilised.

    FG posters were bad, really bad. we had to be giving out ones that didnt even have the word 'lisbon' anywhere on them...so that kinda tells you the whole story.

    with regards to lisbon...if it's ratified and in force tommorow the thing is we wont notice. an ordinary person really wont notice a change from nice to lisbon...its basically that kind of a treaty.


  • #195
    Dannyboi3k
    Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Dannyboi3k


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNbAQjdLVgk&NR=1


  • #196
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Dannyboi3k wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNbAQjdLVgk&NR=1

    And?


  • #197
    odoylerulez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭odoylerulez


    I agree with the poster who said the electorate knew what they were voting on is wrong and still did it anyway. I have a theory. I think the irish population enjoy it like a kind of personal torture. You know what play along with it because when you get over the petty differences etc its really hilarious. We destroyed our democracy and ruined our country!! Tehehehehe

    Its like we are playing monopoly with the country and the future of humanity in so many countries. Fun times lie ahead. Im so looking forward to the next few months and i know secretly a lot of people who voted yes are as well because deep down they know the truth. They know damn well the politicians are lying through their rear ends. They know they don't really give a flying monkeys about what the electorate wants. But you know they just voted yes anyway just so that when it all goes wrong they can all complain!

    You know its true because apparently 67 per cent of voters voted yes yet the overwhelming majority of people are p))ssed off at the result...LOL. I mean did you see the yes celebration at the election hq. I just saw 4 people jumping up and down with one flag and everybody else looking at them going wtf are those twats doing? Lol


  • #198
    Funglegunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Funglegunk


    odoylerulez wrote: »
    I agree with the poster who said the electorate knew what they were voting on is wrong and still did it anyway. I have a theory. I think the irish population enjoy it like a kind of personal torture. You know what play along with it because when you get over the petty differences etc its really hilarious. We destroyed our democracy and ruined our country!! Tehehehehe

    Its like we are playing monopoly with the country and the future of humanity in so many countries. Fun times lie ahead. Im so looking forward to the next few months and i know secretly a lot of people who voted yes are as well because deep down they know the truth. They know damn well the politicians are lying through their rear ends. They know they don't really give a flying monkeys about what the electorate wants. But you know they just voted yes anyway just so that when it all goes wrong they can all complain!

    You know its true because apparently 67 per cent of voters voted yes yet the overwhelming majority of people are p))ssed off at the result...LOL. I mean did you see the yes celebration at the election hq. I just saw 4 people jumping up and down with one flag and everybody else looking at them going wtf are those twats doing? Lol

    Whatever you're on mate, I want in!


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    ei.sdraob
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    crossmolinalad wrote: »
    Well i hope so that he gets his chance
    Half of Europe had hoped of a Irish no vote
    the whole way to get this treaty get passed is pure criminal
    Because

    Netherlands vote NO. Government ratifies the Convention.
    France says NO. Government ratifies the Convention.
    Ireland votes NO. EU says: Go and vote again until a YES.

    Is that Democracy? The EU is a democratic institution?

    George Orwell 1984 is on your doormat.




    marco_polo wrote: »
    Aggregate scores should suffice as a tie breaker.

    Yes: 1,966,719
    No: 1,482,077


    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62379441&postcount=127

    i will keep linking to the above fact until some people get the facts. fact! :D


  • #200
    Spiritoftheseventies
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    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62379441&postcount=127

    i will keep linking to the above fact until some people get the facts. fact! :D
    End of the day, Cameron is making big noises about Ireland getting two votes on Referendum. So if tories get in it would seem they will push for a no vote.


  • #201
    ei.sdraob
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    bayviewclose wrote: »
    End of the day, Cameron is making big noises about Ireland getting two votes on Referendum. So if tories get in it would seem they will push for a no vote.

    well they can do whatever they want in their country

    they could start by getting a constitution and getting rid of the monarch :D that be something


    as long as them Brits dont send that dip**** from UKIP Nigel Farage our direction again :D i dont care what they do

    if they want to leave the EU, off they go, good riddance some might say


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