Do you take Cocaine

c0rk3r

kmick wrote: »

DE drink is way worse. Cocaine is highly addictive but in general i would say it is too expensive to make as much of a dent as the booze does.

* Alcohol intake is a factor in 40% of all fatal road accidents in Ireland and in 30% of all road accidents.
* 35% of sexually active teenagers say alcohol is a factor in their engaging in sex.
* Sexually transmitted infections have increased by 165% in the last decade, with 8,900 cases reported in 2000 alone.
* 48% of all criminal offences are alcohol-related. This includes 88% of public order offences, 48% of offences against the person and 54% of all criminal damage offences. These refer only to offences committed by adults.
o Over the 5-year period 1996 - 2001, public order offences alone had increased from 16,384 to 42,754.
* 370% increase in intoxication in public places by underage drinkers since 1996.
* One in four (25%) of those attending hospital A & E (Casualty) departments have an alcohol-related injury/illness. One in eight (13%) present in a state of clinical intoxication.
* 26% of male and 11% of female first admissions to psychiatric services are for alcohol-related conditions (1999 figures).
* 30% of all male patients and 8% of female patients in an Irish general hospital were found to have an underlying and unidentified alcohol abuse or dependency problem.
* 34% of those seeking legal advice due to marital breakdown cite alcohol as the main cause of their marital problems.
* The economic cost of alcohol-related problems in Ireland was roughly 2.37 billion euro in 1999 (1.7% of GDP). This figure encompassed healthcare costs, accidents, crime, absenteeism, transfer payments and lost taxes. It represents 60% of the total revenue from alcohol to the Exchequer for that year.

You're trying to make a comparrsion between cocaine and alcohol, fair enough. The main problem with your post is that you have supplied no statsitics of cocaine related incidents. Pretty pointless post since it's only partially completed.

Can people please stop spouting the word 'fact' and random percentages and figures without supplying and referance, otherwise it just seems like a opinion that needs your own clarification.

Back on topic, no to coke usage and dont intend to.

kevmy

Don't do coke never have never will. I think the majority of the people who take it are stupid. I can understand a certain amount of curiosity in it I suppose but taking it more than 2/3 times is seriously stupid. It causes a lot of damage to you physically, psychologically is addictive, comes from unknown sources (where do peoples friends get it?), comes from people who don't care about you, supports crime and illegality.

As for alcohol, some points to consider.
Alcohol is legal, coke is not.
Saying coke causes less deaths than alcohol (directly or indirectly) is like saying Harold Shipman was sound cos he killed less people than Hitler.
Alcohol is taken by ~80% of the adult population, coke by ~10% at most. Therefore anything that alcohol does has to be multiplied by at least 8 for coke.
No publicans kill other publicans deliberately over there selling of drink.
Alcohol used correctly will not damage people in any significant way. Doing illegal drugs even in moderation may result in death or addiction (mainly due to other chemicals its cut with but you snort them as well)

Kaldorn

i've tried it a few times and alot of my mates do it,but i certainly wouldnt want to do it more often,and i always got it for free..its rampant at parties and the people that do it generally want you on there wavelenght so they throw it away.the only good thing about it was this,if on a 12 hour session ,the drinkers were falling like flies as well as the drinkers/stoners and we could go on drinking for hours doin a line every hour or so.still the hangover is not worth it.the worst hangover i have ever gotten is off coke...mdma is nice occasionally,and i have tried a few pills obly ever do half at a time,i am too paro to take alot.and i always wait to see how the other people react before id try anything. i think mixing booze and spliff is one of the worst things to do,its turns people into idiots and makes them drunk even if they have only had 4/5 pints

ScumLord

DarkJager wrote: »

Just reading the Star today, it was supposedly a huge bag of coke that got wet on the way over. The people at the party were "eating" it (obviously didn't understand that this isn't a good thing to do)

It's not that it's any worse for (may even be slightly better considering your bellys allot more robust than the inside of your nose) it's just that your bellys bigger than your nasal cavity.

The only bonus you get from sticking it up your nose is it gets into the bloodstream quicker.

kevmy wrote:

Doing illegal drugs even in moderation

How do you make that out? You can't say these lads did anything in moderation. Coke, alcohol, cannabis and shrooms! There's nothing moderate about that mix.

tuxy

Terry wrote: »

I know a certain bar in which about 50% of the people crammed in on a Saturday night would be using it.
Not my friends or co-workers. Just people I know to see.

Exactly, of the people I know it would be about 40/60 between who smokes or has an ocasional one and those that do not at all.
So thats why I was suprised when Tha Gopher says he only knows 4 that don't.
Maybe he dosn't know many people.
Or maybe it's just an indication of where he lives,works, socializes ect..

Manic Moran

kmick wrote: »

DE drink is way worse. Cocaine is highly addictive but in general i would say it is too expensive to make as much of a dent as the booze does.

I'm inclined to think that the hospital stats, interesting though they are, don't prove many points for a reason other than those already mentioned: If you overdose on alcohol, you're still quite capable of getting to your car and driving to an accident or deciding you're capable of operating a power tool or whatever.

Overdose on coke or heroin, and you're probably not even going to make it to A&E to be counted in the statistics.

NTM

Miss Fluff

Coke is for **** who feel the compulsion to share with anyone who'll listen just what an annoying wanker they really are, waste of money.

Im A Hotmail

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not that it's any worse for (may even be slightly better considering your bellys allot more robust than the inside of your nose) it's just that your bellys bigger than your nasal cavity.

Eating it is actually worse. A Doctor on the radio was saying half a teaspoon digested is more than enough to kill. This isn't the first time someones died from eating coke that was too wet to snort, google it.

Hope this comes as a wakeup call to Ireland in general, coke is becoming almost socially acceptable in places and it's scary.

togster

Miss Fluff wrote: »

Coke is for **** who feel the compulsion to share with anyone who'll listen just what an annoying wanker they really are, waste of money.

Same could be said for people who are pissed or stoners.

ScumLord

Im A Hotmail wrote: »

Eating it is actually worse. A Doctor on the radio was saying half a teaspoon digested is more than enough to kill.

Eating half a tea spoon won't kill you.

Im A Hotmail

ScumLord wrote: »

Eating half a tea spoon won't kill you.

That depends completely on how much you've done already, what you've been doing all night (ie drinking spirits) and then your personal tolerance.

I'm going on what the doctor was saying..

kevmy

ScumLord wrote: »

How do you make that out? You can't say these lads did anything in moderation. Coke, alcohol, cannabis and shrooms! There's nothing moderate about that mix.

I know but seriously think about how much alcohol does it take to end up in hospital? Quite a bit, seriously above moderation anyway.
Now I know of a guy from home who took 2 tabs of E, ended up in hospital the next day. 2 E's would be considered moderate enough by most drug takers. Same with coke, if it's cut with the wrong stuff you don't need to take much to end up in trouble.

Im A Hotmail

Toxicology report came back negative, so it wasn't cut with anything dodgy.

syklops

mise_me_fein wrote: »

There were saying that the crowd that took the coke at the 21st on the weekend down the country had a good quality batch and that this is why they got messed up as the normal stuff would not be as pure.

personally I think thats bollix. I'd say its more likely that who ever bought it was done over, and actually bought a concoction of strychnine(main ingredient in rat poison), neurofen, washing powder, lemon sherbet, and 101 other white powders one would not normally snort through their nose.

Have been offered coke loads of times but never touched. Don't do joints either but have had the odd drag here and there. At least with that you have a vague idea of whats gone into it.

If i had my way I would have 24 licensing in this country and legalise soft drugs. Instead of having billionaire drug dealers, with the health service taking care of the bill, regulate coke, dope etc, give licenses to certain places to sell it. Tax it, and put the funds into the Hospitals, and police.

As for alcohol, I am yet to hear of one semi-decent argument against 24 hour licensing. If you have one I would be up to hearing it.

-Leelo-

Done it a few times, and I really am an arrogant b***h when I'm on it. No desire to do it again really. Too expensive anyway.

Mr.Plough

have done a couple of times. Not really my scene

copeyhagen

to put coke in the same catagory as smack and crystal meth is bol0x, cokes a recreational drug to be enjoyed with a few drinks on a saturday night..heroins a fukin lifestyle drug..its consumes you.

anyone that gets strung out on coke i would guess has an addicitive personality. if its not booze its pot, if its not pot its coke etc etc

Tzetze

Tried it a few times when friends might have some. I'd much prefer a big fat sativa doob, tbh.

Endasaurus

No nay never!

ScumLord

syklops wrote: »

personally I think thats bollix. I'd say its more likely that who ever bought it was done over, and actually bought a concoction of strychnine(main ingredient in rat poison), neurofen, washing powder, lemon sherbet, and 101 other white powders one would not normally snort through their nose.

Coke is dangerous enough to kill if it's not cut down. It's cut down initially to stop people from killing themselves by taking to much in one go. These lads dogged into this stuff thinking it was the usual muck and eating way more than they could stick up there nose.

The best way to test if coke is good is to rub it between your fingers. If it disappears you've got the good stuff any grit left it's ****e. Rubbing it on your gums won't tell you a thing, the numbness can come from novocaine or teeth whitener. I'm not trying to promote or encourage drug use but if your going to do it, test that way, it's safe.

copeyhagen wrote:

cokes a recreational drug to be enjoyed with a few drinks on a saturday night..heroins a fukin lifestyle drug..its consumes you.

That's the worst way to do coke, avoid alcohol at all costs, that's what probably what caused these lads to end up in the state they did.

testicle

Never even seen it. I must lead a sheltered life.

testicle

ScumLord wrote: »

That's the worst way to do coke, avoid alcohol at all costs, that's what probably what caused these lads to end up in the state they did.

Apparently.....

They were eating damp coke.......

ScumLord

testicle wrote: »

Apparently.....

They were eating damp coke.......

Mixed with Alcohol, shrooms and spliffs. I'm pretty sure they said on the news it was probably the mix of large amounts of alcohol and coke. It's well known that cocaine and alcohol mix to form some new highly toxic chemical.

http://substanceabuse.lifetips.com/faq/112774/0/what-happens-when-people-mix-cocaine-and-alcohol/index.html wrote:

When people mix cocaine and alcohol, the two substances combine in the liver to form cocaethylene, which intensifies cocaine's euphoric effects (including delusions of grandeur). This combination is thought to increase the risk of heart failure and cardiac arrest, and many drug-related deaths occur among people using this combination.

They where eating damp coke also so probably ingested large amounts quickly.

Lands Leaving

togster wrote: »

Same could be said for people who are pissed or stoners.

No, alcohol is a social lubricant, like ky jelly at a swingers party

peasant

Ever since a seriously bad "trip" in my teens on something as simple as booze, I've lost all interest / curiosity about intoxication ..don't ever want to be that scared again. No drugs for me thankyouverymuch and drink only in moderation.

As for addiction ...can't stop smoking, so I don't think I'd want to risk another one.

Im A Hotmail

ScumLord wrote: »

That's the worst way to do coke, avoid alcohol at all costs, that's what probably what caused these lads to end up in the state they did.

While i don't think doing coke whilst drinking is GOOD for you, i deffiently don't think it's the lethal mix you're making it out to be. I've been to numerous partys with coke involved. These partys would be going on all day and through out the night with coke and drink involved.

(Ps, spliffs would make no difference at all and i haven't heard anything about anyone doing magic mushrooms)

david1two3

The misses is always out of her head on it, put me off drugs for wife.

david1two3

monkey tennis wrote: »

Used to do it the odd time when offered, but I never saw what the big deal was. Now it kicks the crap out of me the next day, so I don't touch it.

LOL at all the people who are scared stiff to even look at cocaine for fear of becoming instantly, hopelessly addicted :rolleyes: It doesn't work like that.



An addiction is something you can't stop, not just something you enjoy doing regularly.

what you say about addiction is not true, if it was no one would ever stop. It is a very complicated but also straightforward process and the bottom line is how it affects you and to some extent yours. Enlightenment, whatever it might consist of, is the way out. It involves different journeys for different people. Some times the fare to enlightenment is a couple of Euros and for others it costs them everything.

SprostonGreen

I've done it a few times in the past but always thought it was rubbish. I dont do it now, but some of my friends do, I wish they didnt becuase in turns them into idiotic ****.

They ruined a great trip to Amsterdam by buying that muck.

neuro-praxis

Coke is for pantywaists. Crystal meth, now that's a drug. Ha, I remember that time when I thought I had lost my last bit of crystal meth somewhere in my apartment, and I went around every square inch of the apartment floor for two hours with a drinking straw up my nose inhaling every last bit of dust, filth and hair in an effort to get it.

Good times.