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Do you take Cocaine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭armour87


    biggest waste of money

    weed is the best drug


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Just my two cents in reply to several of the replies there.

    To the person that said they woke up with their pillow soaked in blood and infered that the coke must have been mixed with some foreign chemical, well it might have been but clean coke can cause your nose to bleed excessively too which was more likely the cause. (know a few people its happened to)

    To the many people that said you can't get good coke in Ireland, well you can, there is an awful lot of crap coke thats been cut to pieces around but there is also a reasonable amount of top quality coke. Obviously if you are buying 2 or 3 grams at a time form some goon thats selling a half ounce a forthnight you have far higher chance of getting the crap stuff.

    To the person that said rubbing coke between your fingers to see if it dissolves is the best test for purity, well there are loads and loads of common mixers that coke gets cut with that will dissolve just as readily as the cocaine will. I would post up the best way to test coke for purity but last time I did the post got deleted and I got banned, (even though I posted it as a harm reduction measure, but whatever) but I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find with a 5 min google search if anyone is interested.

    To the person that says pure cocaine can't be safely used uncut, well it can, you just use less of it, the danger arrises when people are unaware of how pure the cocaine is. The above purity test I'm forbidden from explaining would result in everyone using it knowing exactly how pure thier cocaine is, and so if used by people would elliminate the mystery factor in regard to street cocaine purity.

    As far as coke making people into stuck up egotistical loud mouths, in my own personal experience coke makes stuck up egptistical loud mouths into even bigger stuck up egotistical loud mouths, the vast majority of sound grounded freindly socialble people I've been around when they were taking coke were there usual personable selves, just more up beat, talkative and excitable, I think the effect coke has on people has a massive amount to do with how the person is normally.

    As for cocaine giving you a bad hangover in the morning, the main cause of that is dehydration and lack of sleep. It has little to do with cocaine itself. Keep well hydrated, drink water or isotonic sports drinks frequently, and allow your self enough time for sleep and the hangover will be negligable. One other thing that contributes to next morning coke hangovers is also the fact that its been known for some cocaine dealers to cut a couple of ecstacy pills through their cocaine to give it an extra kick, usually about 3-5 pills per ounce but some will add more and ecstacy is well known for its killer hangovers.

    In relation to the cocaine dealers being scumbags that are fully responsible when somebody overdoses on thier product, well (this is just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree, I'm sure most of you will). If some kid walks into a Porsche dealership and buys a 911 turbo. He drives it off the lot without putting on his seatbelt, puts his foot to the accelerator and tears down the road at 150mph, loses control at a corner and blows into a wall killing himself, whos to blame? Porsche for creating a potentially lethal product? The dealer for selling it on? Or the unfortunate kid that bought a product he didn't know how to use, disregarded available safe use information and then preceded to use the product irresponsibly? Again thats just my opinion. I've had friends and relations that have died either from drug overdoses or that have died from drug related violence so please no one come out with any "would you feel the same if it was your....." responses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    slipss wrote: »
    As for cocaine giving you a bad hangover in the morning, the main cause of that is dehydration and lack of sleep. It has little to do with cocaine itself. Keep well hydrated, drink water or isotonic sports drinks frequently, and allow your self enough time for sleep and the hangover will be negligable. One other thing that contributes to next morning coke hangovers is also the fact that its been known for some cocaine dealers to cut a couple of ecstacy pills through their cocaine to give it an extra kick, usually about 3-5 pills per ounce but some will add more and ecstacy is well known for its killer hangovers.

    Yes, I've always had a far easier day-after-the-night-before if I had coke the night before (and so alot less alcohol) rather than just drink when I tend to drink alot more. Chances are, those of you who said it gave you the worst hangover, it probably DID aid you to stay awake longer than normally and party a bit harder and so you'd be more tired OR if you drank more alcohol while being up later than usual, of COURSE you'll have a worse hangover, but I don't agree that coke gives you such a bad hangover at all! Quite the opposite!

    And as the above poster pointed out about coke being mixed with ecstasy, this MUST have been what the other posters were talking about when they said about seeing people evidently off their heads in pubs/clubs etc., I forget what was exactly said but they described, what sounded like, people off their heads on Es rather than coke. As I've taken alot of coke in my day (as have most of my friends) I can tell you that anyone who has never taken coke or very rarely would find it very hard to spot someone on cocaine in a night-club. I often don't even recognise it myself until someone (who may have even been in my company for hours) offers me a line. The only noticeable effect is more confidence and/or more conversation out of someone! Of course, white powder under the nose is also a giveaway and alot of sniffing (trying to stop their nose from running after having a few lines etc.)

    So those of you who are anti-drugs, don't presume that every E-head going mad on the dance-floor with eyes rollin' in their heads and face gurning are on cocaine, because chances are it's ectasy and the people respectfully and sensibly having a few drinks with friends in a cosy spot around the other side of the pub/club are ACTUALLY the one on coke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭connundrum


    slipss wrote: »
    In relation to the cocaine dealers being scumbags that are fully responsible when somebody overdoses on thier product, well (this is just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree, I'm sure most of you will). If some kid walks into a Porsche dealership and buys a 911 turbo. He drives it off the lot without putting on his seatbelt, puts his foot to the accelerator and tears down the road at 150mph, loses control at a corner and blows into a wall killing himself, whos to blame? Porsche for creating a potentially lethal product? The dealer for selling it on? Or the unfortunate kid that bought a product he didn't know how to use, disregarded available safe use information and then preceded to use the product irresponsibly? Again thats just my opinion. I've had friends and relations that have died either from drug overdoses or that have died from drug related violence so please no one come out with any "would you feel the same if it was your....." responses.

    Selling a legal product, and assuming that the purchaser will use the product in the manner intended is completely different to selling cocaine.

    Should Power City carry a sign explaining that they are not liable should anyone who purchases an iron burn their ear with it? As ludicrous as it sounds, its as logical as your argument.

    Oh and thanks for the guide on avoiding a cocain hangover. Nice.
    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    So those of you who are anti-drugs, don't presume that every E-head going mad on the dance-floor with eyes rollin' in their heads and face gurning are on cocaine, because chances are it's ectasy and the people respectfully and sensibly having a few drinks with friends in a cosy spot around the other side of the pub/club are ACTUALLY the one on coke.

    Orly? People who look like E heads are probably on E? And quiet people in the corner are doing coke. Huh, well I never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    Been there , done that , Wore the Shirt , washed it and even hung it out to dry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    And as the above poster pointed out about coke being mixed with ecstasy, this MUST have been what the other posters were talking about when they said about seeing people evidently off their heads in pubs/clubs etc., I forget what was exactly said but they described, what sounded like, people off their heads on Es rather than coke. As I've taken alot of coke in my day (as have most of my friends) I can tell you that anyone who has never taken coke or very rarely would find it very hard to spot someone on cocaine in a night-club. I often don't even recognise it myself until someone (who may have even been in my company for hours) offers me a line.
    So those of you who are anti-drugs, don't presume that every E-head going mad on the dance-floor with eyes rollin' in their heads and face gurning are on cocaine, because chances are it's ectasy and the people respectfully and sensibly having a few drinks with friends in a cosy spot around the other side of the pub/club are ACTUALLY the one on coke.


    I go mad "off my face" if the tune is good when Im on alcohol. If the tune is an utter classic, and Ive just arrived in the club, occasionally Ill go onto the floor stone cold sober. In fact, I gave it loads on the floor once a few months back to an extent the bouncer pulled me out and stared in my eyes to see if I was out of it, when in fact i was only fairly hammered and Prodigy Outer Space had come on (he let me back out to the floor). Bar the odd drag of hash in the smoking area I havent taken an illegal drug in a club in over 18 months, just drink all the way. And id hate if i turned out like one of these people for whom drink isnt good enough when a decent dance tune comes on, cant dance without coke/yips. tbh Id rather be in a club full of people with a yip or two in them, dancing, talking sh1te but on a good buzz, than a pile of **** putting sugar that has barely any effect up their nose, but plenty of brain affect. Ive seen lives destroyed by the sniff. And despite what the Sunday Indo might like to portray about Foxrock girls woith model good looks fuelling the trade, its more often than not a gang of skangers from wherever. Cool stuff.

    The fact it is such a sh1t high makes me wonder why there is addiction but anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Ive seen lives destroyed by the sniff

    And I've seen pills kill two people directly and more indirectly....and cause many MANY heart-attacks...but that's not the point!

    I'm not condoning all cocaine-using as some people way overuse and others use cocaine badly (ie. with other drugs and/or alot of alcohol)

    I'm only saying that I've used it, and sensibly in the past and enjoyed it. I've also had my phase of pills and and more recently mdma and it's great but it's SO obvious and embarrassingly so (face grurning/chewing/eyes-wide-open or rolling) that you've taken something if you're out in public or in a Social setting where it isn't the norm. Whereas, you can go to Aunty Normas 60th, take a few lines every hour or so and no-one is any the wiser and the night might possibly seem a tiny bit more enjoyable.

    I don't take coke anymore at any rate, couldn't be arsed paying for it, actually meeting someone to buy it and basically breaking the law anymore, it was nice while it lasted....but all good things must come to an end/there's more to life etc.....and not least I now have responsibilities which wouldn't be seen to if I was in jail or dead :)

    As much as I've defended Cocaine, I am a law-abiding citizen now! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    connundrum wrote: »
    Selling a legal product, and assuming that the purchaser will use the product in the manner intended is completely different to selling cocaine.
    The only difference is the legality, I wouldn't say that makes it completely different, only slightly, the princible is the same. A product is sold, and the owness is then on the consumer to use it responsibly.
    connundrum wrote: »
    Should Power City carry a sign explaining that they are not liable should anyone who purchases an iron burn their ear with it? As ludicrous as it sounds, its as logical as your argument.
    No they shouldn't, and neither should they be held solely responsible should someone burn their ear with it, again, fault of the consumer, that was kinda my whole point right there, so yes, in my opinion it is logical, although the car analogy was more in line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    Cake? is that the one that saps your ability to move, rots your teeth, ruins lives.:( If you are offered a slice, think twice!

    Oh coke
    Wouldnt bother unless it was organic, free range, certified GM free and had full traceability back to the little farm in Colombia where it was produced in hygenic conditions by workers on a decent minimum wage and were not using child workers, and was exported under a fair-trade agreement.

    Mt Everest, now there's a natural high that takes ages to come down from.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    wil wrote: »
    Cake? is that the one that saps your ability to move, rots your teeth, ruins lives.:( If you are offered a slice, think twice!

    No it's a new made up drug from Eastern Europe. And no joking matter.

    Check this out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    tuxy wrote: »
    No it's a new made up drug from Eastern Europe. And no joking matter.
    Check this out.
    <snippy>
    Ah yes Chris Morris's Brass Eye on Channel 4, brilliant
    How stoooopid did those celebs have to be.
    Didnt realise it was as long ago as 1997.
    Love the 'Grade is a "see you next tuesday"' bit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_Eye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    While i don't think doing coke whilst drinking is GOOD for you, i deffiently don't think it's the lethal mix you're making it out to be. I've been to numerous partys with coke involved. These partys would be going on all day and through out the night with coke and drink involved.

    (Ps, spliffs would make no difference at all and i haven't heard anything about anyone doing magic mushrooms)
    Maybe in Dublin you can get reasonable coke but I say 90% or more of whats sold in Ireland is muck. One day you might be lucky enoungh to get that stuff and from previous experience will think it's ok to dog into it along with your drink. I'm not saying I'm any different but always be cautious and start off slow.
    To the person that says pure cocaine can't be safely used uncut, well it can, you just use less of it
    Coke that leaves Columbia is always cut, it's cut at source as soon as it's made, even the best stuff is only 70% pure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    The only type of coke I'm interested in is the cold can of Coke in front of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    tuxy wrote: »
    No it's a new made up drug from Eastern Europe. And no joking matter.

    Check this out.


    good old brass eye :-)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    and not least I now have responsibilities which wouldn't be seen to if I was in jail or dead :)

    Out of curiosity, what if you were to find out your responsibilities were users of coke and E a few years down the line? What would be your opinion of it then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Jeapy


    boneless wrote: »
    Also, when I think of the young plumber who was murdered last year I think "how can people still make these pusher scum rich?"

    +100


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭drdre


    I have never taken it, was offered it and once ended up at a coke party but wouldnt take none of that crap.The best is blunt full of pure purple haze.thats as far as i would go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭sparky360


    i have taken most drugs available, including heroin, and have been lucky enough to not to have formed any "drug" addiction with the highly notible exception of alcohol.

    taking drugs is a personal choice and i wouldnt condemn anyone for doing so.

    even though very occasionally i dabble in drugs (mdma, coke, shrooms, lsd) it is an addiction to alcohol that has led to my marriage break up, my general fitness deteriorating and any upset i cause my family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Coke is god's way of telling you that you've too much cash

    Sting right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭drdre


    sparky360 wrote: »
    i have taken most drugs available, including heroin, and have been lucky enough to not to have formed any "drug" addiction with the highly notible exception of alcohol.

    taking drugs is a personal choice and i wouldnt condemn anyone for doing so.

    even though very occasionally i dabble in drugs (mdma, coke, shrooms, lsd) it is an addiction to alcohol that has led to my marriage break up, my general fitness deteriorating and any upset i cause my family.



    Very sad to hear about that, wish you well in the future.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭BrandonBlock


    I dunno if it's been mentioned on boards yet but the 2nd guy in Waterford died in hospital today from cocaine

    http://www.rte.ie/aertel/104-01.html

    3 people in less than a week eh..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    There were saying that the crowd that took the coke at the 21st on the weekend down the country had a good quality batch and that this is why they got messed up as the normal stuff would not be as pure.

    they got messed up coz they ate it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Helix wrote: »
    they got messed up coz they ate it
    Yeah, because snorting will never kill you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    its less likely to

    the fatal dose for consumption is far lower than the fatal dose for snorting it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,850 ✭✭✭condra


    I used to take a lot of coke when I lived abroad for 3 months. I haven't done it in years and I'm glad I stopped.

    I regret doing it in the first place. I feel it changed me profoundly in just 3 months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Helix wrote: »
    its less likely to

    the fatal dose for consumption is far lower than the fatal dose for snorting it

    I'm fairly certain the fatal dose is far higher for consumption than for snorting it, its a much less direct form of administration. The problem is that when you eat it it takes much longer to reach your blood stream and so you take more and more as you aren't getting the desired effect and sometimes you take too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭goldenbrown


    most people in ireland have no interest in hard drugs, or any drugs apart from beer, send the ip of the yes votes to the Gardai


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    typical irish mentality i think

    bertie takes bribes and we still make no dent in the voting margin
    3 ppl die because they took loads of drugs and 1 of them is now an angel and everyones really really sad.

    bury our heads in sand and then sit there talking about how great we are. we also take great pleasure in saying whats wrong with other countries. the "emerald isle" indeed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 bracelets


    I've been offered it a few times but I'm glad to say I never have. I actually took being offered it as a sign that I was becoming "friends" with the wrong type of people instead.

    I'm kinda surprised by the number of people in this thread who have a similar opinion to me. Perhaps I just end up around the wrong people but it seems like the opposite these days around Dublin. Maybe all the like-minded people are on boards.ie :)

    Anyway, for a start I seem to have always had some kind of phobia about the idea of snorting anything at all up my nose at all, nevermind a drug. The thought of it makes me cringe, I remember people snorting crushed up refresher sweets in primary school and I couldn't even stand to look at them doing that. Whenever I've seen people snorting coke or speed at parties in the past, I've had to look away.

    It does seem to turn a lot of people into assholes but I've always felt that when it comes to people who turn into assholes or get aggressive after taking drugs or alcohol, it isn't the drug that's making them that way, it's that the veil has dropped and their true nature is shining through. Likewise most of the genuinely nice people I've known in life just stay nice even when they're drunk.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭BrandonBlock


    most people in ireland have no interest in hard drugs, or any drugs apart from beer, send the ip of the yes votes to the Gardai

    Howya Sergeant, fresh batch of IP's here for ya - straight from costa rica , - **** thats some good work mahoney! Thanks I need a bath.


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