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Labour Saving and General Guntering

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Just a lot of wire brushing and the dreaded painting to be done now.:D:(

    Great work!
    Send it off to Galco and be done with it:)

    I notice you have a chain behind. I used to use a chain until a cow sat on one and I was near never getting the damn thing off. I use a rope now, that can be cut under pressure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    Bizzum wrote: »
    Great work!
    Send it off to Galco and be done with it:)

    I notice you have a chain behind. I used to use a chain until a cow sat on one and I was near never getting the damn thing off. I use a rope now, that can be cut under pressure.

    I thought that Galco wouldn't take anything that was arc welded. Too dirty somebody told me one time.

    Good point with the rope though Bizzum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    I thought that Galco wouldn't take anything that was arc welded. Too dirty somebody told me one time.

    Good point with the rope though Bizzum.

    They'll take em no prob as long as the weld is good and all the slag is knocked off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Askim


    johnpawl wrote: »
    They'll take em no prob as long as the weld is good and all the slag is knocked off.

    Took arc welded stuff for me before, think they won't take it if there is paint on it, give them a ring & you'll know.
    Also all pipes have to have holes both ends, think they have to be 10mm minimum, but they will tell you what they need.

    A


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    Out of curiosity why do they want holes in all bars?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Out of curiosity why do they want holes in all bars?
    So that everything is galvanised on the inside aswell as the outside. The holes allow the galvanise in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Out of curiosity why do they want holes in all bars?
    pakalasa wrote: »
    So that everything is galvanised on the inside aswell as the outside. The holes allow the galvanise in.


    I thought it was more to do with leaving the air out. Trapped air in a bar dipped into a bath of molten zinc will expand and could very likely explode the bar!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    cjpm wrote: »
    I thought it was more to do with leaving the air out. Trapped air in a bar dipped into a bath of molten zinc will expand and could very likely explode the bar!!

    It's not a bath of molten zinc:confused: The process is electroplating. So item to be zinc plated is placed in a solution containing zinc (zinc ions). Electricity is added to the item to be plated, making it a conductor.
    The negative zinc ions in the solution now become attracted to the positive conductor (your gate for example). Over a period of time the zinc ions become deposited on the surface of the conductor.
    In the process of the plating the solution (acidic) will enter into all internal bores and tubes in the item to be plated. It is important that the solution can find a way out after the gate is lifted out of the plating solution in order not to cause subsequent staining and corrosion.

    T


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Air will expand in the pipe if there isn't a hole in the pipe. I does let the galvanise into the inside also. If you don't put a hole in the pipe, the galvanisers will, usually with a welder or cutting torch.
    They blow an ugly hole in the wall in two places to make sure there won't be an explosion. It happened in Limerick a few years ago.
    Better to do it yourself and it can act as a drain point for water later on if put in the right place.

    Tora; galvanising will be the hot dip process, electroplating is a much finer process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭cjpm


    cjpm wrote: »
    I thought it was more to do with leaving the air out. Trapped air in a bar dipped into a bath of molten zinc will expand and could very likely explode the bar!!


    From GALCO.IE website

    Hot dip Galvanizing is the immersion of iron or steel articles in molten zinc to apply a protective coating. All material processed by Galco Steel is in accordance with I.S. EN ISO 1461: 2009


    Venting & Drainage
    You must allow for the free flow of molten zinc throughout your fabrication. Every enclosed section or overlapping plate must have adequate holes.
    • No hole should be less than 10mm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Askim


    Figerty wrote: »
    Air will expand in the pipe if there isn't a hole in the pipe. I does let the galvanise into the inside also. If you don't put a hole in the pipe, the galvanisers will, usually with a welder or cutting torch.
    They blow an ugly hole in the wall in two places to make sure there won't be an explosion. It happened in Limerick a few years ago.
    Better to do it yourself and it can act as a drain point for water later on if put in the right place.

    Tora; galvanising will be the hot dip process, electroplating is a much finer process.

    and they will charge you for butchering your lovely gate !!!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    so galco will galvanise a crush if i was to get it welded up and all the dividing gates? how do they charge?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    I see Sperrin in Galway are part of Galco;
    http://www.galco.ie/contact-us.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    pakalasa wrote: »
    I see Sperrin in Galway are part of Galco

    Tenagh, Co. Galway. That's where I send any few bits I need done ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    so galco will galvanise a crush if i was to get it welded up and all the dividing gates? how do they charge?

    Far as I know they charge by weight. so your item gets weighed pre galv and post to assess the amount of material deposited on your item.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    I was thinking of getin a local lad to make up a crush for me and send it off from galvanising. At 28 years old and 40 years galvanising it will do me out :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭martin46585


    so galco will galvanise a crush if i was to get it welded up and all the dividing gates? how do they charge?

    Most engineering plant will be in a position to get items galvanised, some more regularly than others, so deliver to their yard on a Tuesday and the item is back on Thursday, and v/v.
    The rate of 80 cent per kg is an average price, but applies to the whole weight of the item, that is a 50kg barrier would be 40 euros to dip,
    The holes are to be at opposite corners on all closed sections, that is top left/ bottom right, so no matter which way is up or down on entering the tank, and charged at 5 euros a hole to "blow" a hole if you forget to do them yourself,
    Also all close fitting seams to be completely welded, as the first dip is in an acid solution to etch the steel and open seams retain the acid, which will react with the zinc when dipped in the second tank, leaving no galvanise on the seam....

    below ended up 120kg in weight at a cost of 96euros, which was more than reasonable, considering that the inside is also coated especially as it is in both salt and fresh water....
    .
    http://s13.postimage.org/fro81scjb/trailer_091.jpg
    http://postimage.org/image/viz10j0ph/
    one i made earlier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit



    Do you strap the cows down to it or what? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭martin46585


    Muckit wrote: »
    Do you strap the cows down to it or what? :confused:


    "labour saving" roll on, roll off, but no cows on this one...


  • Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭jerdee


    Muckit wrote: »
    Do you strap the cows down to it or what?


    Maybe your next investment muckit to herd the cattle. On a boat as next week forecast ain t great....,..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭Conor556


    These are 2 mole ploughs i made for burrying water pipes and can also b used for quick drainage jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Conor556 wrote: »
    These are 2 mole ploughs i made for burrying water pipes and can also b used for quick drainage jobs.
    Tidy job Conor. What HP do you need to pull it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭Conor556


    Not alot. The 1 beside the van i pull with a MF 65 it only goes down 13 inches. The other one goes down 16 inches and sold it to a friend who pulls it with a TL90


  • Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    Saw this in a farmers yard near Drangan recently.
    Molasses tank, with spring-loaded slurry tank outlet attached.
    he drives up with loader, pushes chain to open with bucket, reverses away when filled and chain closes valve.
    Bucket to catch the odd drip:)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,473 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    i was thinking of welding a frame similar to this only making it a bit higher with a vertical center pices with a bracket for a to link and making it fit for the front and back of the tractor.
    would only be moving bales when rear mounted using top link and pins through the qa for the lift arms
    moving pallets/bushes when on the front and nothing too heavy.
    does anyboby see obvious problems with this? or have photos of something similar?
    thanks

    bk1991 wrote: »
    heres the finial pics of the bale handler i made last year all painted .
    i only used it to bring 100 bales in for neighbour and to feed 40 bales at home . loaded 30 bales hay with it but the were sticking on spikes the tines prob need a bit wear before it will be right for straw or hay but the grinder could be used .

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    cjmc wrote: »
    i was thinking of welding a frame similar to this only making it a bit higher with a vertical center pices with a bracket for a to link and making it fit for the front and back of the tractor.
    would only be moving bales when rear mounted using top link and pins through the qa for the lift arms
    moving pallets/bushes when on the front and nothing too heavy.
    does anyboby see obvious problems with this? or have photos of something similar?
    thanks

    Sounds perfect to me for the job at hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    years ago the shaft between the drums on our old Krone mower broke so the father took a grinder to it and now its used a couple of times a year for the grass verge of our laneway
    easier than a strimmer anyway!

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    another thing he made was a yard scraper using a railway sleeper cut to length to suit the passages of the sheds. 2 endplates, 3 point mounts made from angle iron and a few long bolts and your done


  • Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭richie123


    i made a spring loaded calving gate tis like a guillotine to tis (dont worry d cows love it:) one little flick of rope an bang it closes!
    must post a pic!


  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭moll3




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  • Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭richie123


    emaherx wrote: »
    yea tyres can be useful for small implements to rest on we use them under things like transport boxes also.



    Sounds interesting, a few pic's would be good if you can get a chance.
    great idea also a great job for feeding cows at night..close the gates an feed around 4 5 that evening in daylight then wen your checking the cows that night open them up ..a lot less cows calve during night with night time feeding.


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