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SuperTortoise

foxy farmer wrote: »

The nanny state rides again. Sure we might as well sell the welders and grinders so. Make it an offence to own a welder without a certificate of competence. More H&S bureaucracy keeping people in cushy jobs

To be fair about it i've seen my fair share of things down through the years that have been 'welded', that would make you scratch your head and wonder.

I'm no fan of a nanny state by any stretch, but problems can arise when the likes of something being sold on or used by someone that did'nt make it in the first place.
If one of the welds goes bang, in that case i'd feel pretty sorry for the poor sod who bought/used something that he thought was made to a decent standard.

patsy_mccabe

SuperTortoise wrote: »

90% of the work with MIG is setting up the machine, getting your voltages and feed speed correct, the rest is point and click.
Do your research before buying one though, there's an awful lot of shyte out there.

I'm getting something made up through work at the moment. The guy welding it is using a MIG welder. He was saying that a MIG weld looks a lot better than a stick weld, but the weld penetration is s lot less. If the item being welded has to be load bearing, then stick welding is a lot better. MIG welding is twice as easy to do, he said too.

patsy_mccabe

foxy farmer wrote: »

The nanny state rides again. Sure we might as well sell the welders and grinders so. Make it an offence to own a welder without a certificate of competence. More H&S bureaucracy keeping people in cushy jobs

Went to look at a tractor for sale one time. The guy, small scale contractor had a young guy working for him who got injured with a pick up hitch. Hurt his leg. He was claiming off him and yer man had to sell the tractor to pay him off.
By EU law all machinery sold in the EU has to have a CE mark. It's the law, simple as that. If your going to make up your own log splitter, make sure you never lend it to anyone.

SuperTortoise

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I'm getting something made up through work at the moment. The guy welding it is using a MIG welder. He was saying that a MIG weld looks a lot better than a stick weld, but the weld penetration is s lot less. If the item being welded has to be load bearing, then stick welding is a lot better. MIG welding is twice as easy to do, he said too.

Yep the stick weld will be stronger because of the penetration, tensile strength of the wire will probably be the same though going by the book though.

MIG welders wage is probably half that of stick or TIG welders because it's fairy easy to pick up.

f140

Conor556 wrote: »

One I made a few years ago, 20 tonne ram,

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Where did you get the triangle splitter part. The actual part that splits the wood?

Conor556

f140 wrote: »

Where did you get the triangle splitter part. The actual part that splits the wood?

Just made it myself with flat steel I had, I reinforced the very tip of it with angle iron on the inside before I welded on the top,,

dryan

Have a bale trailer that i used last year to transport some wrapped bales.

Broke my heart. No matter how careful i was, i still managed to damage bales and i also noticed that some of the bales got damaged in transit just from sitting on the bars.

So it got me thinking in the spring, would it be much of a job to make up a 'detachable' floor that i could use when working with wraps?

drew up a few plans and got working on it last week.
took me about 6 hours labour, a few early mornings before work and then a few hours on saturday morning.

Raw materials cost me just short of 280 euros.
Put it to the test yesterday evening and it worked a treat.

pics below

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lakill Farm

worlds smallest pictures

dryan wrote: »

Have a bale trailer that i used last year to transport some wrapped bales.

Broke my heart. No matter how careful i was, i still managed to damage bales and i also noticed that some of the bales got damaged in transit just from sitting on the bars.

So it got me thinking in the spring, would it be much of a job to make up a 'detachable' floor that i could use when working with wraps?

drew up a few plans and got working on it last week.
took me about 6 hours labour, a few early mornings before work and then a few hours on saturday morning.

Raw materials cost me just short of 280 euros.
Put it to the test yesterday evening and it worked a treat.

pics below

https://img2.brain4.photobox.com/3629189561c29a93968eca5876b6ccd6d157fa1b6701ee2a0effffc9a76a070ec00c273c.jpg
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dryan

Fixed that for ya there bud!

lakill Farm wrote: »

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Kovu

lakill Farm wrote: »

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They're bigger now!

lakill Farm

dryan wrote: »

Fixed that for ya there bud!

nice job

Are they clipped into place ? or do they bounce all over the place while on the road?

dryan

Cheers Lakill,

Yea, clipped into place to the centre beam underneath. Everything is fitting nice and tight so no bouncing or rattling when empty on road.

Very handy for unloading too as you can come at the trailer from all angles.

lakill Farm wrote: »

nice job

Are they clipped into place ? or do they bounce all over the place while on the road?

patsy_mccabe

Were those bales loaded using 'soft hands' grippers, as they call them?

dryan

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Were those bales loaded using 'soft hands' grippers, as they call them?

Yes

lakill Farm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Were those bales loaded using 'soft hands' grippers, as they call them?

they are a great job

9935452

dryan wrote: »

Have a bale trailer that i used last year to transport some wrapped bales.

Broke my heart. No matter how careful i was, i still managed to damage bales and i also noticed that some of the bales got damaged in transit just from sitting on the bars.

So it got me thinking in the spring, would it be much of a job to make up a 'detachable' floor that i could use when working with wraps?

drew up a few plans and got working on it last week.
took me about 6 hours labour, a few early mornings before work and then a few hours on saturday morning.

Raw materials cost me just short of 280 euros.
Put it to the test yesterday evening and it worked a treat.

pics below

https://img2.brain4.photobox.com/3629189561c29a93968eca5876b6ccd6d157fa1b6701ee2a0effffc9a76a070ec00c273c.jpg
https://img2.brain4.photobox.com/308859316dfb0196299f96a482fd4701377560808ca754d08439073baf00888563115adf.jpg
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I have the same type of trailer but its made by malone .
We find it very good with wrapped bales .
We load it with a bale handler or hydraulic bale handler on a loader.
It takes a bit of time to get used to loading it but we use a long top link or hydraulic top link so the bale hits the main chassis of the trailer and isnt being dragged off the bars it sits on.
The main chassis of the malone is made from box iron so has fairl rounded edges, home made ones are channel welded together and have sharp edges.
The malone has steel caps welded onto the end of the crossbars.
With home made ones a lot of the time they have plastic caps on the ends which can leave sharp edges.
The malone has the cross bars welded under the main chassis so carry the bales a bit lower than others which makes it easier to load with a bale handler.
All that said i have considered making a detachable floor for it .
It would make it a lot more useful.

Markcheese

Still reckon it'd be a better bet to wrap in the yard... contractors mightn't agree with me though..

dryan

Markcheese wrote: »

Still reckon it'd be a better bet to wrap in the yard... contractors mightn't agree with me though..

Yea, I used to get the contractor to wrap in yard years ago when he had a wrapper running around behind the baler. he upgraded to the fusion about 5 years ago. For the sake of 30/40 bales on a piece of ground about a mile from the yard, just don't want to be bothering him having to pull out the wrapper probably once a year at this stage... Nit sure if he still has it actually.

IH784man

Markcheese wrote: »

Still reckon it'd be a better bet to wrap in the yard... contractors mightn't agree with me though..

Wrapping at the house/yard isn't so bad as long as you have a big space to work with and the man unloading the bales knows what he's at,you want them to be near 2 ft apart and straight,I'd still wrap in the field any day though

Markcheese

IH784man wrote:

Wrapping at the house/yard isn't so bad as long as you have a big space to work with and the man unloading the bales knows what he's at,you want them to be near 2 ft apart and straight,I'd still wrap in the field any day though

We used to unload off the bale trailer on to the wrapper and then stack the wrapped bale.. 1 guy bringing up the bale trailer then hooking up to the wrapper.. same lad drove the loader and stacking... older machines so not the biggest tightest bales but simple enough.. and no wripped bales..

Markcheese

IH784man wrote:

Wrapping at the house/yard isn't so bad as long as you have a big space to work with and the man unloading the bales knows what he's at,you want them to be near 2 ft apart and straight,I'd still wrap in the field any day though

We used to unload off the bale trailer on to the wrapper and then stack the wrapped bale.. 1 guy bringing up the bale trailer then hooking up to the wrapper.. same lad drove the loader and stacking... older machines so not the biggest tightest bales but simple enough.. and no wripped bales..

gctest50

Figerty

gctest50 wrote: »

X ray of those lungs in a few years time will be interesting.. I wonder what colour they will be!

Nekarsulm

It's such a low pressure system, spray mist would be minimal.
When did you last see a Renault 12? (Dacia might have made a copy in the 80's)

We had a curious jampot contraption lying about when I was a kid, you filled it with paint and hooked it up to the pipe of the Hoover, having connected the other end to the "blow" end of the Hoover.
The father told me he sprayed a Ford Prefect car with it.

gctest50

Nekarsulm wrote: »

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We had a curious jampot contraption lying about when I was a kid, you filled it with paint and hooked it up to the pipe of the Hoover, having connected the other end to the "blow" end of the Hoover.
The father told me he sprayed a Ford Prefect car with it.

should've patented it - could've retired back then


sound/look familiar ? :

decades ahead he was ......

Nekarsulm

Looked like this.

Nekarsulm

Pouring wet all day yesterday, so I finally made this gate for a sheep pen.
Only been using a hurdle and baler twine for the best part of a decade.....

foxy farmer

Nekarsulm wrote: »

It's such a low pressure system, spray mist would be minimal.
When did you last see a Renault 12? (Dacia might have made a copy in the 80's)

We had a curious jampot contraption lying about when I was a kid, you filled it with paint and hooked it up to the pipe of the Hoover, having connected the other end to the "blow" end of the Hoover.
The father told me he sprayed a Ford Prefect car with it.

I have an old Electrolux hoover here, one of the first things bought by my grandmother when they got the ESB and it could do what you're talking about. Remove the hose, take out the hoover bag and attach the hose to the opposite end of the hoover. Fill the paint jar attach it to the hose and spray away mad!
Heard my mother saying she used it to spray paint a wall with emulsion using a gadget like yours. Didn't have much time for it though as the hose was stubborn and too short when working at a height.

mengele

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Pouring wet all day yesterday, so I finally made this gate for a sheep pen.
Only been using a hurdle and baler twine for the best part of a decade.....

you get a lot of use out of that generator? Whats the biggest thing it will power?

pedigree 6

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Pouring wet all day yesterday, so I finally made this gate for a sheep pen.
Only been using a hurdle and baler twine for the best part of a decade.....

A bit of thinking went into that.
It's a right job.:)

Nekarsulm

mengele wrote: »

you get a lot of use out of that generator? Whats the biggest thing it will power?

It's only 2.5 kva, so will run the sheep shears, drill, angle grinder etc. Won't run the welder, unfortunately. I think you need 5 or 6 kva to run one.

mengele

Nekarsulm wrote: »

It's only 2.5 kva, so will run the sheep shears, drill, angle grinder etc. Won't run the welder, unfortunately. I think you need 5 or 6 kva to run one.

do they give much trouble?

Nekarsulm

No, single cylinder Petter diesel. Built very heavy. Change the oil and keep the diesel clean and it should run forever.

It was working perfectly, but wouldn't start last week, after lying up for the winter.
Shyte and water in the diesel, had buggered up the injector.
Swung the bloody thing till I nearly collapsed, tried hot air in the intake manifold, tried a blow lamp in the intake manifold, all to no avail.

Brought the injector to a specialist and he rebuilt it with a new tip there and then. €28.

blue5000

Have you tried an inverter welder on it Neks? Nice work on the gate.

Nekarsulm

I wouldn't let anything electronic near one of those generators.
I read or heard somewhere that the current supplied is fairly "dirty" with lots of mini voltage spikes, and would possibly fry the welders circuits.

Thanks for the comments. The spring is from a scrapped trampoline. A neighbour wanted a loan of a trailer to bring their trampoline to the dump, so I salvaged the springs.

kevthegaff

Was going to make a euro hitch for David brown, where do I get materials with say holes, etc

blue5000

kevthegaff wrote: »

Was going to make a euro hitch for David brown, where do I get materials with say holes, etc

https://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/pin-and-cone-euro-and-jcb-brackets/4570404

How much do you want to diy?

Or try Cloone engineering in Templemore, do you know where they are?

Nekarsulm

kevthegaff wrote: »

Was going to make a euro hitch for David brown, where do I get materials with say holes, etc

If you are planning on making an adaptor to allow a David Brown loader match Euro implements, I wouldn't bother DIY.
There is a company near me (Cavan) will make it for about €300, and it's certified.
Dowd Engineering near Kilnaleck.

https://m.facebook.com/page/mediaset.php?id=230595397123501&album=pb.230595397123501

blue5000

Just wondering if anyone here uses wws wholesale welding supplies? I just ordered a box of fincord M welding rods, couldn't get them anywhere for years.

Muckit

No sorry haven't. Atr they good rods? Hows the trailer coming along? I see you qent with channel and chequer plate. Be a strong job. You need to strengthen up that headboard now;)

ford 5600

blue5000 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone here uses wws wholesale welding supplies? I just ordered a box of fincord M welding rods, couldn't get them anywhere for years.

I haven't used www for anything . Wondering a bit like yourself what they're like.

Use Hilco rods . Even better than The fin cord m. Green square box , 5kg? Instead of 2-5 kg . €25 in a lot of places.

Zr105

blue5000 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone here uses wws wholesale welding supplies? I just ordered a box of fincord M welding rods, couldn't get them anywhere for years.

Stick with the fincord, hilco or even the ezetrode glanbia stock. They'd all be better than wws rods, had a box here and they'd stop halfway down a rod momentarily, as in the arc would just break for no apparent reason!

Got a 5kg of hilcos a good while ago and there a brilliant rod, and the slag lifts of itself once your welding right with them!

EJ88

blue5000 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone here uses wws wholesale welding supplies? I just ordered a box of fincord M welding rods, couldn't get them anywhere for years.

I bought a mig and gas bottle of them a couple of years ago. Bought some other bits and pieces since. Never had any problems.

vincenzolorenzo

I bought an inverter welder off them at the start of the year. Have done a few bits and pieces with it so far, no complaints. Find it a great little welder actually!

Reggie.

blue5000 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone here uses wws wholesale welding supplies? I just ordered a box of fincord M welding rods, couldn't get them anywhere for years.

Yeah I use them. Never any bother with orders

Muckit

Anyone know where i'd get galvanised bolts as opposed to zinc plated?

blue5000

Muckit wrote: »

No sorry haven't. Atr they good rods? Hows the trailer coming along? I see you qent with channel and chequer plate. Be a strong job. You need to strengthen up that headboard now;)

I put 80mm L iron along the edge of the chequer plate. Had some Larch boards racked so a few of them went into the headboard and sides. Luckily it has 1 good tyre on each side! Was drawing out dung with it the last few days. It needs a bit more work on the sides, I'll probably make steel sides for it, crappy phone photo attached.

Bullocks

Muckit wrote: »

Anyone know where i'd get galvanised bolts as opposed to zinc plated?

Did you try tripart or caulfields ?

gctest50

Muckit wrote: »

Anyone know where i'd get galvanised bolts as opposed to zinc plated?

around since 1887, might have a few bits :

http://www.hassetts.ie

Shipping is €7 + vat on anything up to 20kg

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bogman_bass

Making a BBQ smoker