US Congresswoman Shot In Head

panda100

Sad news but as someone else said It's realy not a huge suprise. The anger I have seen surrounding politicans at the moment is palpable.Though the fact members of the public were shot highlights a more serious agenda. It will be interesting to find out a bit more about his motives and his background re his army career.

Ive just read that the S*** B*** known as Westboro Baptists are planning on picketing that little girls funeral. Hope to God its not true.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/westboro-baptists-vow-to-picket-funerals-of-az-shooting-victims/

Jake1

Jake1 wrote: »

Ive just read that the S*** B*** known as Westboro Baptists are planning on picketing that little girls funeral. Hope to God its not true.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/westboro-baptists-vow-to-picket-funerals-of-az-shooting-victims/

I'm through with humanity. I just give up.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm through with humanity. I just give up.

How those people are allowed to function is beyond any reasonable persons comprehension.

previous user

Looks like the nutters in the tea-party movement are mobilising.

Mardy Bum

Jake1 wrote: »

Ive just read that the S*** B*** known as Westboro Baptists are planning on picketing that little girls funeral. Hope to God its not true.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/westboro-baptists-vow-to-picket-funerals-of-az-shooting-victims/

Is there no incitement of hatred laws that can get rid of that shower of inbred c*nts.

Mardy Bum

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Is there no incitement of hatred laws that can get rid of that shower of inbred c*nts.

As far as I know, no, because of that God awful "freedom of speech" bollox they've got written into their constitution. I'd love to go back in time and tell those forefather bastards just what that constitution is causing - countless school shootings, murders and accidental deaths, and people like Westboro Baptist Church doing all the sh1t.

Tar.Aldarion

brianwalshcork wrote: »

Zeo!

According the site below, there are 579 "Loughner" in the US and only one Jared Loughner.

http://howmanyofme.com/search/

11 of me!

Weird how it was all conflicting about reports of her death.

FouxDaFaFa

His youtube channel is interesting. He keeps referring to himself in the third person. I can't get my head around much of the text in the videos but it would lead me to believe he's working by himself, not as a disgruntled party member.

Some quotes from his videos:

I define terrorist

I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying (sic) mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling the grammar.

Honestly, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Guns are pretty freely available in the States.

Edit: This picture of Loughner is doing the rounds. Weird to think he was featured in the paper for doing charity work in the community and is now featured for destroying that community.

From looking at the youtube videos...the guy is just nuts. That's all there is to it. Can't see any tea-party stuff or anything like that, just plain nuts.

He makes random statements and backs it up with weird logic that has to have come from someone with severe mental problems. His sentences read like maths equations.

IT-Guy

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

You can't spell slaughter without laughter

I reserve the right to quote this post after the election....


Hope the congresswoman and the rest that were shot make full recoveries. If the shooter isn't found to be insane then I hope he gets the death penalty.

thebigleap

Innocent kids are killed every day of the week around the world, if the media were to make headline news out of every murdered child then there wouldn't be much time to report anything else. The fact is that the judge and the congressman are the story and rightly so.

While I see what you're saying, this wasn't just any death of a child, this was at a public event, at the hands of a nutcase with an axe to grind against a politican at said event. Do I really have to read through to the third or fourth paragraph of a news article before I find out that a child was also a victim? Have we become so hardened to the tragedies in the world that nobody considers the shocking death of a child worthy of a headline or at least of the first paragraph? IMO, this child's life was just as valuable as the congresswoman and the judge's, and she and her family deserve better than being a throwaway line in a news item. So do the other victims.

Anyway, as it turns out, the little girl's grandad was a famous coach, plus she was born on 9/11 so maybe that'll earn her more headlines. /sarc

previous user

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

He makes random statements and backs it up with weird logic that has to have come from someone with severe mental problems. His sentences read like maths equations.

like I said, tea-party.

Overheal

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Anyone can get access to a gun over in the States, it's more likely to be a disgruntled native.
Sure I spent 3 months over there and completed an NRA course in basic pistol, which would've let me apply for "concealed carry" of a gun in Virginia/Washington DC, Ie. carry a gun on my person in daily life.

JupiterKid wrote: »

Another tragic gun spree in the USA. Will they ever learn?:(

AZ Gun Control Laws: http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/p/gunlaws_az.htm

They're some of the most relaxed controls in the Union. I'm sure there will likely be a beef-up in the wake of this thing. Don't however hold you breath thinking guns will be banned any time soon. Regulation in these more conservative places however will gradually step up to a better standard. The fact that a properly licensed and permitted person can conceal a firearm doesn't bother me greatly: those are typically not the ones committing crimes. Rather, they're often the ones shooting convenience store robbers in the back, from the milk aisle.

amacachi wrote: »

Generally I'm completely against the death penalty but this kind of thing is different. For once I see it as important that the state should be able to "send a message". Obviously the bit in inverted commas will be jumped on. :pac:
I wouldn't advocate frying anyone though.

A strange stance indeed.

You have to appreciate that the Death Penalty doesn't typically serve as a deterrent in these situations. Jared Lee could have very well been prepared to die after his shooting. In fact, many shootings over the years, including Columbine and many others, ended when the shooters took their own lives. What good is a Death Penalty to those people? I would think the thought of living in a cold plain cell for the rest of his biological life will be enough pause for this young man.

CharlesHaughey wrote: »

According to RTE there were 6 killed and 12 shot. He would definitely get life even here!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0108/giffordg.html

Don't be so sure.

Jake1 wrote: »

Ive just read that the S*** B*** known as Westboro Baptists are planning on picketing that little girls funeral. Hope to God its not true.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/westboro-baptists-vow-to-picket-funerals-of-az-shooting-victims/

The WBC is never worth anybody's time. Except that I have few doubts they are being monitored. They themselves would never do such a thing, they just like applauding it. They're entitled to do so, just as Atheists are entitled to billboards and pundits are entitled to take offense to them and claim that Tides are inexplicable phenomena that are the work of God. Oh, Bill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/colbert-oreilly-god_n_805848.html?ir=Religion

bnt

Jake1 wrote: »

Ive just read that the S*** B*** known as Westboro Baptists are planning on picketing that little girls funeral. Hope to God its not true.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/westboro-baptists-vow-to-picket-funerals-of-az-shooting-victims/

Given the tone of that video and this press release, I think it's a safe bet they'll be there.

Pretty_Pistol

Video of Jared Lee Loughner talking in this link. All the other videos on youtube it was just his written thoughts. I thought it was interesting to hear his ramblings in person.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-jared-loughner-video-20110115,0,7041106.story

TeddyTedson

What's he saying about being homeless and teachers being paid illegally?

amacachi

Overheal wrote: »

A strange stance indeed.

You have to appreciate that the Death Penalty doesn't typically serve as a deterrent in these situations. Jared Lee could have very well been prepared to die after his shooting. In fact, many shootings over the years, including Columbine and many others, ended when the shooters took their own lives. What good is a Death Penalty to those people? I would think the thought of living in a cold plain cell for the rest of his biological life will be enough pause for this young man.

Aye, didn't have my thinking cap on when I said that, I'd say death was probably what he was expecting.

Pretty_Pistol

TeddyTedson wrote: »

What's he saying about being homeless and teachers being paid illegally?

He was being disruptive in class at the college and his parents were called in about it. I'm guessing they may have threatened to throw him out of their house because of it. He goes on about the currency being illegal so that's probably what he means by the teachers being paid illegally.

Lirange

It's amusing to see people attempt to extract coherent logic out of his ramblings.

TeddyTedson

Just heard some breaking news that there has been a school shooting in LA. Someone should make a thread about it, I'm not allowed at the moment.

TeddyTedson

Right, it's been confirmed here!
At least 3 injured.
That country really needs to get their head out of their arse when it come to guns laws!
Someone make a thread.

InTheTrees

3 injured? Injured?

That barely makes the news.

InTheTrees

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Right, it's been confirmed here!
At least 3 injured.
That country really needs to get their head out of their arse when it come to guns laws!
Someone make a thread.

Yup but they think differently, thats the problem.

Usually after these school shootings the gun debate turns to whether we should let teachers carry guns so they can shoot back.

generally the american reaction is to want More guns not less.

TeddyTedson

InTheTrees wrote: »

3 injured? Injured?

That barely makes the news.

It'll be in the headlines with it being so soon after that last nutter who shot people.

Manic Moran

InTheTrees wrote: »

Yup but they think differently, thats the problem.

Usually after these school shootings the gun debate turns to whether we should let teachers carry guns so they can shoot back.

generally the american reaction is to want More guns not less.

Well, you have to admit, the fact that it's illegal to shoot people unlawfully, and also illegal as a general rule to bring guns to school, hasn't really stopped people.

The only practical solution is to allow people to shoot back.

NTM

Overheal

Lirange wrote: »

It's amusing to see people attempt to extract coherent logic out of his ramblings.

The interesting thing is however it's quite possible to do.

60 Minutes had a special about him which made *a lot* of good sense, actually. See Nihilism. He actually believed in nothingness; the meaningless of existence, language, currency, society, politics, etc. - he was quite accurately apolitical and certainly wasn't a right-wing nutter who listened to too many suggestive messages to kill targets on a campaign map. Rather he had something against Giffords before Sarah Palin was even a known variable outside of Anchorage. In fact even if it had been suggested to him by the media he would have resisted it because he was obsessed with the idea that they were trying to employ mind control on him.