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Alcohol price controls

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    #32
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    This country has so many fking spoil sports I cannot possibly glass them all.. :mad:


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    #33
    G_R
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes, pubs can keep their current prices for all I care. It's just that I think its to cheap to get a six pack of beer for €6.

    The cheaper something is the more of it people are likely to consume. When the prices goes up, people will have to cut down on the consumption.

    Alcohol should be much more strongly regulated in this country. I suggest also increasing the drinking age to 21.

    there is so much wrong with your logic

    1. raising the alcohol to 21 (a la America) will only lead to a lot more illegal drinking, which you seem to have a problem with. Put it this way, I'm 19, if the law was changed, I wouldn't stop drinking. I'd change the way I obtain drink. It would make no difference to 15 year olds.

    2...

    actually you know what, your obviously a troll, i'm not gonna bother, in a nutshell, your wrong


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    #34
    whiteonion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Sorry OP, but you put a link up, just in case someone thought it was your idea.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0124/breaking49.html
    Off course this is not my idea as such but I think it's a good idea and one that we should promote in Ireland. This country should try to change the image of Irish people being drunken fools.


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    #35
    dermo88
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    whiteonion

    People will drink no matter what. If the state taxes it excessively, people will then learn how to make it themselves. Taxes, regulation and legislation are already quite excessive in Ireland on almost every angle of life. You look to this Government to solve problems? They could'nt solve banks, property, or much else, and now you look for them to solve an alcohol problem.

    You may as well put Dr Harold Shipman in charge of the Ministry of Health, and make Jean Claude Duvalier the Finance Minister.


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    #36
    easyeason3
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Off course this is not my idea as such but I think it's a good idea and one that we should promote in Ireland. This country should try to change the image of Irish people being drunken fools.


    Change is one the way, Brian Cowen is on the way out.


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    #37
    RichieC
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Off course this is not my idea as such but I think it's a good idea and one that we should promote in Ireland. This country should try to change the image of Irish people being drunken fools.

    But you're sober now I take it? :confused:


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    #38
    whiteonion
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    RichieC wrote: »
    But you're sober now I take it? :confused:
    Yes I'm sober, and I do not consume excessive amounts of alcohol. I don't see the point in that.


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    #39
    easyeason3
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes I'm sober, and I do not consume excessive amounts of alcohol. I don't see the point in that.


    So do you drink alcohol at all?
    Mammys sherry trifle doesn't count btw.


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    #40
    strobe
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes I'm sober, and I do not consume excessive amounts of alcohol. I don't see the point in that.

    Wait......you do not consume excessive amounts of alcohol? But it's so cheap. But you are saying even though you think it's cheap you don't drink a lot of it?? So the price of it doesn't effect how much you drink of it?

    No...now I'm confused. :confused:


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    #41
    Cantona's Collars
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    I don't notice too many drunk teenagers these days,when I was a teen everybody was on the lash and the entire week was based on getting money together to get hammered at the weekend.Seems to be less of it about these days despite what the media are telling us.


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    #42
    Cavehill Red
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    You'll have to pry my whiskey out of my cold, dead and somewhat malty fist!!!


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    #43
    HavingCrack
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    I suspect you're trolling but I'm not going to let you away with it.
    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes, pubs can keep their current prices for all I care. It's just that I think its to cheap to get a six pack of beer for €6.

    This is not what you said in your previous post. You said all alcohol prices should double. So which is it? It is cheap yes, but it is also the cost in many other European states.
    whiteonion wrote: »
    The cheaper something is the more of it people are likely to consume. When the prices goes up, people will have to cut down on the consumption.
    This is false economics. The cost of alcohol in France for example was far higher relatively speaking to cost of living in the 1950's than in the present day. However alcohol consumption in France has fallen. This puts a hole in your theory.
    whiteonion wrote: »
    Alcohol should be much more strongly regulated in this country. I suggest also increasing the drinking age to 21.

    Regulated in what manner? Give specific examples.

    Raising the drinking age to 21 is a non runner. If you're legally considered an adult at 18 you should enjoy all the rights and responsibilites that entrails including alcohol consumption. I presume the 20 year olds amongst us who study and hold down jobs aren't considered fit to drink in your high and mighty eyes?
    whiteonion wrote: »
    Poor people can do something else instead of drinking booze and destroying their physical and mental health.

    Sorry I forgot you're playing the role of the moral police and know better. As I previously said, if people wish to destroy their physical health that is their choice and not that of the government. If you consume alcohol or any intoxicant you must handle the possible dangers it entails. It's called personal responsibility.


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    #44
    dougal-maguire
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes, pubs can keep their current prices for all I care. It's just that I think its to cheap to get a six pack of beer for €6.

    The cheaper something is the more of it people are likely to consume. When the prices goes up, people will have to cut down on the consumption.

    Alcohol should be much more strongly regulated in this country. I suggest also increasing the drinking age to 21.


    Damn right,i used to be addicted to penny sweets,then they doubled the price...Havent touched one in years i tell ya.


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    #45
    Terry
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    You're the divil.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZLqwU3JptM


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    #46
    upandcumming
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    It seems that the OP doesn't like drinking and probably feels left out in his circle of friends that drink more.


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    #47
    phonejacker
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    wouldn't it be great if all alcohol was banned from this country! id say that would piss a few people off by saying that.:D


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    #48
    Sunnyisland
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    fonejacker wrote: »
    wouldn't it be great if all alcohol was banned from this country! id say that would piss a few people off by saying that.:D


    :D Ya and implement sharia law aswell :D deadly :p


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    #49
    Eriu79
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    I was in a bar in chicago that had $2 Guinness, great night.


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    #50
    Temptamperu
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    OP is jealous those drunk kids get to drink with there friends while he twitches the curtain on his own. :P


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    #51
    phonejacker
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    ha ha very funny:D, alcohol is a very serious problem in this country you no costing probably billions of tax payers money (then again whats a few billions euro these days:rolleyes:) through crime/antisocial behavior and idiots ending up in a&e. (maybe i like twitching the curtain on my own:D)


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    #52
    Capt'n Midnight
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    whiteonion wrote: »
    Yes, pubs can keep their current prices for all I care. It's just that I think its to cheap to get a six pack of beer for €6.
    Tesco and other supermarkets regularly do a six pack of Tuborg for a fiver.
    Adli do a 12 pack of no brand for €8 = €4 for a six pack. So alcohol is actually cheaper than you think. It's cheaper buying a litre of milk at a newsagent. And it's a source of B vitamins :)

    So what would happen if you went about about increasing the price by 500% so that €4 only gets you one pint ?

    If you think that would reduce binge drinking or reduce the workload in A&E then you are living in a fantasy world because that's the price people already pay in Pubs.

    Increasing the price on alcohol just means the revenue get more money, a subsidy to the LVA, some of the poor divert money from basics to alcohol.

    We already have enough laws, we just need enforcement. Offies that sell to underage drinkers, people who buy alcohol for kids that sort of stuff.


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    #53
    AG2R
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    Fibbers 2.50 a drink YES PLEASE!


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    #54
    bleg
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    Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »
    You sound suspiciously like a Vintner's Association troll. Cheap alcohol does not cause any of those problems, stupid people will do stupid things. Until we grow up as a nation and mature to escape this infantile pastime it cannot be solved by the government helping the publicans make even more money.

    Look at France and other EU countries where alchol is both cheap and plentiful in social situations, where the problem is almost non-existant by comparison. Your suggestion benefits only the greedy publicans.



    Eh, a pint is €9 in Paris...


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    #55
    Cantona's Collars
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    bleg wrote: »
    Eh, a pint is €9 in Paris...

    More places in France than just Paris.;)

    Have a look in the bargain alerts forum,the vast majority of thanked posts there relate to offers of cheap booze-I got Budweiser yesterday for €1 a can thanks to that forum. (waits for beer snobs to reply...)

    These days I actually see less binge drinking compared to the Celtic Tiger years when everyone had more disposable income and spent the weekends waving €50 notes at barmen when trying to buy gallons of shots and vodka/red bulls at ridiculous prices.


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    #56
    Eric Cartman
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    phonejacker wrote: »
    wouldn't it be great if all alcohol was banned from this country! id say that would piss a few people off by saying that.:D

    inb4 'banned for being a re-reg of whiteonion'


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    #57
    Chuck Stone
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    No.

    Raising prices on off sales will punish the prudent and the poor profusely.


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