The Abercrombie Situation

Hazys

Wolflikeme wrote: »

I like Abercrombie and Fitch - it means really fat people can't wear the same clothes as me. :rolleyes:

Fat people cant wear hoodies that have a big "A&F" on the front?

stovelid

Any truth in the rumour It's an acronym for Aspirational and F+ckwitted?

Sticky_Fingers

I didn't even know who Abercrombie was until I saw them on a BBC documentary last month. Form what I saw they are a bit wanky just like all the other brands out there.

Here's a link to the doc if you have to time, it's a bit of an eye opener

parc

i know a girl who went out and bought a handbag with her first paycheck after college. it cost a grand

fair enough, it's her money, but I actually think its massively retarded to spend that money on a ****ing bag...what are you thinking woman

Wolflikeme

Hazys wrote: »

Fat people cant wear hoodies that have a big "A&F" on the front?

Not sure A&F make clothes for the more robust....that was the point of my post. At least the last time I was in their NYC store they didn't..

Wolflikeme

parc wrote: »

what are you thinking woman

"I'm just like those sluts women in Sex and the City!"

Daemos

recylingbin wrote: »

what site?

**********.com

bnt

recylingbin wrote: »

what site?

Daemos wrote: »

**********.com

Put it this way: the name started with "goats", but it had no pictures of goats on there (as far as I know). It's long gone now - shut down without a single objection. :cool:

Hazys

Wolflikeme wrote: »

Not sure A&F make clothes for the more robust....that was the point of my post. At least the last time I was in their NYC store they didn't..

On their website they sell XXL sizes and US sizes are usually one size bigger than Europe also. Anyways i digress.

Wolflikeme

Hazys wrote: »

On their website they sell XXL sizes and US sizes are usually one size bigger than Europe also. Anyways i digress.

XXL in A&F = XL here. Just going by my experience in that shop.

Caraville

I do NOT get the obsession with Abercrombie or stuff. I'm told their hoodies are good but really, it's a hoodie, how good can it be?

And Hollister stuff looks pretty chavvy.

At best the stuff from both those shops just looks like stuff from Penneys/River Island. Don't understand the hype at all, they obviously have some good marketing folk working for them.

Gummy Panda

so Jersey Shore is where "Come at me bro" came from...

Anyway, fúck Ambercrombie. I remember we use to get students during the boom bragging on boards about importing their gear and looking great in lectures.

Don't look amazing to me tbh

DebDynamite

Dman001 wrote: »

if you walk into A&F or even Hollister (owned by Abercrombie) you see tall, well built and tanned models/shop assistants

They're also thick as sh*t usually.

Johro

bnt wrote: »

Well, I thought it was funny: Abercrombie & Fitch are so annoyed at the Jersey Shore characters wearing their clothes that they're offering to pay them not to wear A&F clothes. They don't care who knows, either - they put out a press release about their offer to "The Situation":

Who wears who's (whose) clothes?

I must get out too much...

Johro

Sounds like a sixties/seventies spy thriller.
'The Abercrombie Situation'.
Probably stars Michael Caine.

Paparazzo

bnt wrote: »

Put it this way: the name started with "goats", but it had no pictures of goats on there (as far as I know). It's long gone now - shut down without a single objection. :cool:

recylingbin wrote: »

what site?

You dont want to see it. Picture this but for real.

Koltashe

The King of Moo wrote: »

This is the part I don't get. How is the experience different?

As a man, I don't judge a woman based on her brand of handbag or what it looks like. To be honest, I wouldn't really notice her handbag unless it had a swastika on it or something.
Though if my girlfriend spent €500 on a handbag I'd probably tell her how silly I thought that was.

At the end of the day, it's your choice and your money and I don't criticise you for buying what you want, but I have to admit I do find it hard to understand the idea of spending so much money on something that to me is so trivial.

I bought the bag as it was the size, shape and colour I wanted, it fits my lap top and folders for work and all the baby junk and toys for weekends. It goes with suits I wear to work as well as jeans and tshirts (must note here no A&F tshirts though lol)

And I wouldn't expect a guy to ever notice my bag or pay any attention to it unless he was gay.

Expensive bags is my thing, I have an old crappy TV, lap top and hi fi system, and I wouldn't spend a cent on upgrading those, they do the job and its fine by me. We all have our own weaknesses that we spend money on.

The only point I was trying to make here in relation to A&F is that companies spend years and millions of euros punds and dollars building up their brand name which in turn differentiates them from other similar products and allows them to charge premium price and maintaining this image is essential for brands survival.

mfceiling

So A&F are annoyed at Jersey shore lads wearing their clothes as it brings down the aspiratonal image of their clothes......then why did A&F have 2 jersey shore look-alikes standing outside their dundrum store on Saturday wearing nothing only board shorts and flip flops?

stovelid

Koltashe wrote: »

And I wouldn't expect a guy to ever notice my bag or pay any attention to it unless he was gay.

Those gays: they're mad for the bags and make-up and all that. I saw it on that Sex in the City.

El Horseboxo

Fúck A&F. I hope the Bloods and the Crips start wearing their shít.

stovelid

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Fúck A&F. I hope the Bloods and the Crips start wearing their shít.

Why would they ever countenance wearing expensive, bland leisurewear festooned with logos?

Koltashe

mfceiling wrote: »

So A&F are annoyed at Jersey shore lads wearing their clothes as it brings down the aspiratonal image of their clothes......then why did A&F have 2 jersey shore look-alikes standing outside their dundrum store on Saturday wearing nothing only board shorts and flip flops?

I think it is Hollister you are thinking about, though it is A&F brand but I am guessing since it is the budget version of their lines they brand and market it differently.

bigneacy

bnt wrote: »

"... aspirational nature of our brand"? Well, to what are their customers aspiring? To wear more expensive clothes that look the same as clothes 1/4 the price from Penney's? "Oh, look, this label is proof that I spend more money on clothes than necessary! Amn't I better than the plebs?"

I've had two Abercrombie hoodies for 6 years. Both are as good as the day they were bought. Never shrank, never lost their colour.

Penney's clothes lasts 1 wash and starts to look ****e and falls out of shape.

I'd gladly pay €100 for one abercrombie hoodie that will last and last, than €15 for a piece of penney's ****e.

listermint

bigneacy wrote: »

I've had two Abercrombie hoodies for 6 years. Both are as good as the day they were bought. Never shrank, never lost their colour.

Penney's clothes lasts 1 wash and starts to look ****e and falls out of shape.

I'd gladly pay €100 for one abercrombie hoodie that will last and last, than €15 for a piece of penney's ****e.

Ive 3 Footlocker Hoodies that i bought 5 years ago. They have travelled around the globe with me. Same shape size and colour as they day i bought them. Arms are tight and never loosened.

They cost a small fraction of your 100 Euro. 100 Euro for a hoodie is laughable. You lose.

Il take my 80 Euro and buy a plane ticket to somewhere fun.... and have change for beers.

listermint

Oh wait Dammm

there is no logo on the front or back ... I lose Arrrgggghhh how will i go on............

WoollyRedHat

I urgently await for a 'Tescos Finest" Car

bigneacy

listermint wrote: »

Oh wait Dammm

there is no logo on the front or back ... I lose Arrrgggghhh how will i go on............

And you could have saved a few thousand by buying a Citreon Saxo instead of a high performance M3.

The difference is? Don't lecture me about paying over the odds for a hoodie if you yourself drive a sports luxury.

And what about your phone - how much could you have saved by getting a Samsung Cobble? Plenty of change for beers there too i'd say?

muckwarrior

bigneacy wrote: »

The difference is?

The difference is that a luxury/sports car will cost significantly more to build than a budget car. Both their prices reflect their actual material value. However, designer clothes probably only cost marginally more to manufacture than cheap clothes, yet they cost many times more. Therefore their 'value' exists only in the heads of those obsessed by labels.

PS Feel free to trawl through all my previous post as well to see what you come up with

bigneacy

muckwarrior wrote: »

The difference is that a luxury/sports car will cost significantly more to build than a budget car. Both their prices reflect their actual material value. However, designer clothes probably only cost marginally more to manufacture than cheap clothes, yet they cost many times more. Therefore their 'value' exists only in the heads of those obsessed by labels.

HA?!! A luxury sports car is the most basic LABEL of all. You pay more for the badge than you do for whats in the car, and thats a fact!

Why is a BMW 7 Series up to €300,000? Because its worth it?! BOLLOCKS. Because it's a BMW 7, thats why!

A mercede's A Class is similar to, and widely regarded as not as reliable as a hyundai getz - yet its up to four times the price? Because it costs more to make? :rolleyes:

listermint

bigneacy wrote: »

And you could have saved a few thousand by buying a Citreon Saxo instead of a high performance M3.

The difference is? Don't lecture me about paying over the odds for a hoodie if you yourself drive a sports luxury.

And what about your phone - how much could you have saved by getting a Samsung Cobble? Plenty of change for beers there too i'd say?

Ha! You have zero idea of what goes into an M3, shows you what you know if you compare it to a Citreon Saxo.


An M3 is a high performance Track orientated machine.



Your Hoodie you bought because it had A&F on it and someone told you they were cool..... (your cool) happy?

Koltashe

muckwarrior wrote: »

The difference is that a luxury/sports car will cost significantly more to build than a budget car. Both their prices reflect their actual material value. However, designer clothes probably only cost marginally more to manufacture than cheap clothes, yet they cost many times more. Therefore their 'value' exists only in the heads of those obsessed by labels.

Designer clothes do cost more to manufacture and the quality is significantly superior. The ammount of times I bought cheap tops in penneys only to have them rip at the seem the first time I wore them or completely loose shape after first wash. Yet I have some disigner tops and tshirts for a few years now and they are as good as new.

You get what you pay for its as simple as that.

listermint

bigneacy wrote: »

HA?!! A luxury sports car is the most basic LABEL of all. You pay more for the badge than you do for whats in the car, and thats a fact!

Why is a BMW 7 Series up to €300,000? Because its worth it?! BOLLOCKS. Because it's a BMW 7, thats why!

A mercede's A Class is similar to, and widely regarded as not as reliable as a hyundai getz - yet its up to four times the price? Because it costs more to make? :rolleyes:

Your knowledge of what goes into these cars displays how ridiculously clueless you are on anything mechanical , Anything to do with technology, anything to do with production and manufacture and pretty much the cost of mineral resources too.

On that note i rest my case.

bigneacy

listermint wrote: »

Ha! You have zero idea of what goes into an M3, shows you what you know if you compare it to a Citreon Saxo.


An M3 is a high performance Track orientated machine.



Your Hoodie you bought because it had A&F on it and someone told you they were cool..... (your cool) happy?

That's my exact point!! Can you not see that you just argued with me, and yet said the exact same thing as I did?!! :rolleyes:

I have more idea than you ever will. I was making the point that it does the same thing - drives. A penney's hoody and a A&F hoody do the same thing - cover you. Are they the same?

Is a footlocker hoodie the same? No. Is a BMW M3 and Citreon saxo the same? Not even in the same league.

listermint

Koltashe wrote: »

Designer clothes do cost more to manufacture and the quality is significantly superior. The ammount of times I bought cheap tops in penneys only to have them rip at the seem the first time I wore them or completely loose shape after first wash. Yet I have some disigner tops and tshirts for a few years now and they are as good as new.

You get what you pay for its as simple as that.

But you dont really, your actually paying around 60% over the odds for the branding. So lets be clear. I dont berate you for how you spend your cash. But quite simply dont grey the facts, facts are facts.


Your paying for the branding.

listermint

bigneacy wrote: »

That's my exact point!! Can you not see that you just argued with me, and yet said the exact same thing as I did?!! :rolleyes:

I have more idea than you ever will. I was making the point that it does the same thing - drives. A penney's hoody and a A&F hoody do the same thing - cover you. Are they the same?

Is a footlocker hoodie the same? No. Is a BMW M3 and Citreon saxo the same? Not even in the same league.

Oh I forgot an A&F hoodie can get around the Nurburgring in 8:22. Sh** should have bought that hoodie instead of the car, what was i thinking :rolleyes:

bigneacy

listermint wrote: »

Your knowledge of what goes into these cars displays how ridiculously clueless you are on anything mechanical , Anything to do with technology, anything to do with production and manufacture and pretty much the cost of mineral resources too.

On that note i rest my case.

You argued with me that your €20 hoody does the same thing as my €100 hoody.

Well, you live in Ireland where you cannot go over 120kph. You live in Dublin in stop-start traffic almost all day. A citreon saxo will do the same for you, get you from a-b. Yet you own a BMW because it's a better quality car, it will last longer with care, it looks cooler and is all round just better. Yes it costs more , but its worth it.

My point is EXACTLY the same about an abercrombie top. Yet you think you are still arguing against me?!

listermint

Point is, when buying an M3 your not buying the badge (its toolish to assume that and clueless too)

When buying a piece of abject clothing with a brand on it, your buying it cos it was cool on your J1 Wahey!!!

bigneacy

listermint wrote: »

Point is, when buying an M3 your not buying the badge (its toolish to assume that and clueless too)

When buying a piece of abject clothing with a brand on it, your buying it cos it was cool on your J1 Wahey!!!

Oh dear god. I have to leave this thread.

I clearly am not intelligent enough to continue to aruge with you listermint. Your powerful brain has convinced me I was wrong all along.

listermint

bigneacy wrote: »

Oh dear god. I have to leave this thread.

I clearly am not intelligent enough to continue to aruge with you listermint. Your powerful brain has convinced me I was wrong all along.

You are not comparing like with like.


Its like comparing a solid block of gold with lead.

Both will hold back a door but the mineral value of the gold makes it more expensive.

The manufacturing value and technology in an M3 make it expensive not the logo on the front.

Your hoodie is expensive because someone jammed a label on it. Your comparison is flawed. Im off too, because im banging my head on the table here.

Triangla

Koltashe wrote: »

Designer clothes do cost more to manufacture and the quality is significantly superior. The ammount of times I bought cheap tops in penneys only to have them rip at the seem the first time I wore them or completely loose shape after first wash. Yet I have some disigner tops and tshirts for a few years now and they are as good as new.

You get what you pay for its as simple as that.

I agree that you get what you pay for - some of the time.

A&F quality has gone well down the last few years. I was in the states last year, went to 3 or 4 stores and bought nothing. Hoodies were a lot different to ones I got years ago. Fabric just felt cheaper and wasn't as fitted as before.

Same with t-shirts, they felt like cheap versions of the real thing.

They've built they're brand and I reckon they're cutting corners to milk it right now.

PS - they would make a fortune selling torches, would come in handy in their stores. It's like shopping in a night club.

Koltashe

listermint wrote: »

But you dont really, your actually paying around 60% over the odds for the branding. So lets be clear. I dont berate you for how you spend your cash. But quite simply dont grey the facts, facts are facts.


Your paying for the branding.

Yes you do pay for the branding but this branding is an assurance of quality and after sales services. I have a Gucci bag, bought roughly 6-7 years ago a handle was damaged during a fight (and I stress during a fight not that it was poor quality) they repaired it for free, after about 5 years the zip on it went and they replaced it for free. Now I can not think of any non well known brand:
a. whos bags would last 6-7 years and still be in perfect condition
b. repair the damaged handle free of charge
c. replace a zip on a bag they sold 5 years previous again free of charge

Yes there are brands out there that charge superior prices for poor quality but normally these brands are just fad brands that pop up in retail and fade away in no time. Reputable brands are on the market for yours, they provide quality items and appropriate after sales services.

Yes there are people who only purchase for the Brand NAME, but there are also others who prefer to spend their money on quality items and assurance that those items will last.

listermint

Koltashe wrote: »

Yes you do pay for the branding but this branding is an assurance of quality and after sales services. I have a Gucci bag, bought roughly 6-7 years ago a handle was damaged during a fight (and I stress during a fight not that it was poor quality) they repaired it for free, after about 5 years the zip on it went and they replaced it for free. Now I can not think of any non well known brand:
a. whos bags would last 6-7 years and still be in perfect condition
b. repair the damaged handle free of charge
c. replace a zip on a bag they sold 5 years previous again free of charge

Yes there are brands out there that charge superior prices for poor quality but normally these brands are just fad brands that pop up in retail and fade away in no time. Reputable brands are on the market for yours, they provide quality items and appropriate after sales services.

Yes there are people who only purchase for the Brand NAME, but there are also others who prefer to spend their money on quality items and assurance that those items will last.

They last because your taking care of them due to the crazy price tag....

You dont take near as much care as cheaper stuff i would say and the cheaper stuff gets an outing far more often than big money items.


And you can get an tailor to fix a handle or a zip for very little.


Quality is in the eye of the beholder.

Irish Guitarist

I don't see anything impressive about going around in an Abercrombie t-shirt (or whatever it is they make). I prefer not having brand names splashed all over my clothes and would rather have a plain t-shirt. Having said that I have a few Smith And Jones and Used Co. t-shirts with writing all over them but I only bought them because they were going cheap and were a decent fit.

I think all clothes with logos and writing on them should be cheap because you're advertising the clothing companies products.

df1985

A&F polos are made in a "muscle fit" i.e tight round the stomach, broad shoulders, tight on your arms......an XL in AF is like a large in another brand.clothes are tight-woulda thought the jersey shore lads fitted the bill!

df1985

Koltashe wrote: »

Yes you do pay for the branding but this branding is an assurance of quality and after sales services. I have a Gucci bag, bought roughly 6-7 years ago a handle was damaged during a fight (and I stress during a fight not that it was poor quality) they repaired it for free, after about 5 years the zip on it went and they replaced it for free. Now I can not think of any non well known brand:
a. whos bags would last 6-7 years and still be in perfect condition
b. repair the damaged handle free of charge
c. replace a zip on a bag they sold 5 years previous again free of charge

Yes there are brands out there that charge superior prices for poor quality but normally these brands are just fad brands that pop up in retail and fade away in no time. Reputable brands are on the market for yours, they provide quality items and appropriate after sales services.

Yes there are people who only purchase for the Brand NAME, but there are also others who prefer to spend their money on quality items and assurance that those items will last.

so ye spent 500 quid on a bag to be all classy........then ye got in a fight....:pac:

The Don 1985

F*ck them Koltashe, you dont have to explain yourself to anybody why you bought the bag, if that what floats your boat that's what floats your boat . And well put about not having the most expensive TV etc. I bet most of the people on this site wouldn't have any problems forking out big bucks computer game/laptop etc. !!

Rock on with the expensive bags is what I say and f*ck the begrudgers !!

P.S I'm not a A&F wearing anymore seen as the world and it's mother is now wearing it but used to wear alot of it when it was more low key and I have to say I couldnt disagree more with anyone who thinks the quality or material etc. is poor. It is top notch IMO and better than any of it's compeditors including Polo,Tommy,Lacoste etc.

listermint

The Don 1985 wrote: »

F*ck them Koltashe, you dont have to explain yourself to anybody why you bought the bag, if that what floats your boat that's what floats your boat . And well put about not having the most expensive TV etc. I bet most of the people on this site wouldn't have any problems forking out big bucks computer game/laptop etc. !!

Rock on with the expensive bags is what I say and f*ck the begrudgers !!

P.S I'm not a A&F wearing anymore seen as the world and it's mother is now wearing it but used to wear alot of it when it was more low key and I have to say I couldnt disagree more with anyone who thinks the quality or material etc. is poor. It is top notch IMO and better than any of it's compeditors including Polo,Tommy,Lacoste etc.

Hipster

The Don 1985

That I am....

RichieC

J. Marston wrote: »

What a bunch of snobby bastards.

Bollocks to that, you sweat blood and tears building a brand only for a bunch of trained chimps to piss all over it on the TV.


Jesus fu*k I hate jersey shore..

Irish Guitarist

I know what it's like to see someone carrying the same bag as me. It happens a lot when I'm carrying my Tesco bag for life.