Germany commissioner wants to humiliate Ireland officially!

Sir Oxman

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I see no problem with that, we fooked up big time, most of the country did, not just the bankerz and the PDz

Do you really care all that much if our flag is flown at half mast, what difference would it make to your life?

Jaysis, you don't live up to the name!;)

Tigerbaby

are you people for fcukin real? if we had followed the enlightened ideas of Herr Adolf, we would not be smothered by this Banking Junta under which we slave. He alone saw the damage and the plunder of Weimhar Germany, And He alone tried to implement the economic solution. This was so successful that it got a lot of "wealthy" ( we might call them neo-cons now) people worried. This was Long before the famous "final solution", which I believe was an abberation

Remember Judea declared war upon Germany in 1933. Not the other way round. Britain and France declared war upon germany, not the other way round.

Nations arent the enemy, its international banking systems. We have our own scum to blame. many of them of the FF green Republican party.

Boston or Berlin? give me Berlin any day..

EGAR

It's *Weimar*

Da_Doc

Tigerbaby wrote: »

are you people for fcukin real? if we had followed the enlightened ideas of Herr Adolf, we would not be smothered by this Banking Junta under which we slave. He alone saw the damage and the plunder of Weimhar Germany, And He alone tried to implement the economic solution. This was so successful that it got a lot of "wealthy" ( we might call them neo-cons now) people worried. This was Long before the famous "final solution", which I believe was an abberation

Remember Judea declared war upon Germany in 1933. Not the other way round. Britain and France declared war upon germany, not the other way round.

Nations arent the enemy, its international banking systems. We have our own scum to blame. many of them of the FF green Republican party.

Boston or Berlin? give me Berlin any day..

Huh?

Tigerbaby

is "huh?" the best you can do? come one now, engage a bit. use the old grey matter. or else say nothin.

Yahew

4leto wrote: »

Yahew wrote: »

None of this happened in Iceland. The idea that companies leave as wages collapse is a funny one.

The punt should theoretically appreciate as Ireland is a net exporter. It will, however, probably fall by 30% - 70% is scaremongering. Inflation will increase ( which is just another way of saying the currency will decrease) and the debt burden will decrease.

A net exporter of other foreign companies goods, and they could up sticks and go if the Euro collapses, with the single market and the EU. It really is that scary.

And there still is the debt burden, the banking burden, Nama, and of course our still massive fiscal deficit and the flight of capital which will happen when it looks imminent

I think he is right. We really do not want the Euro to collapse. So please GERMANY stick with us. Germany will suffer if he Euro collapses but it will be no way as devastating to them as it would be to the rest of Europe.

So we really should be grateful to them for sticking with it.

All of those burdens are exacerbated by the strait jacket of the single currency and were caused by it.

Biggins

Fighting Irish wrote: »

...Do you really care all that much if our flag is flown at half mast, what difference would it make to your life?

The point for me is that NO country is perfect. Each has made faults of some kind economically at some point.
Should we all go around demanding that other country hang their flags at half mast due to those errors?
If so everyones flag will be only half way up.

When should one nutjob get to say we should be further humiliated? We don't do that to criminals when they get out of jail, we don't try make a show of people as they struggle to get themselves out of a hole or mistake, we don't do it to other countries for their mistakes.
Who out there stated that big bully boys get to say they can push humiliation upon others - besides it serving no practicability?

This German man wants to humiliate not just the national pride of people who are victims of poor political regimes actions, which abused the good faith trust put in them by those that supported them originally, the German wants to humiliate the whole nation.
...And for me thats punching below the belt!

What difference would it make to me? Well I have still pride in my people as a whole for a number of reasons and for one man so say that they should all be picked upon and blankly humiliated across Europe just for one reason, is disgusting.
He not just trying to humiliate my friends, my co-workers, he wants to humiliate my children and my family and thats what it boils down to.
What difference would it make to me? A big one, yes, because it would hurt me to see such close and loved people being put down like that.
I'll be damned if I'll ever give into such stupidity and such bullies.

I'm willing to accept what our country has done, how it has fallen etc, when its necessary but my wife and I have not begun to raise four children so that they could be automatically classed now as "deficit sinners" wherever they go - for something they did not chose but are at home, already paying enough price for. A wacko somewhere in Europe wants to add to their woes in open humiliation tainting.
Thanks - but no thanks.

Yahew

Tigerbaby wrote: »

is "huh?" the best you can do? come one now, engage a bit. use the old grey matter. or else say nothin.

This is an opportunity not to be missed. I can call someone a Nazi without violation of Godwin. You, sir, are a Nazi.

Yahew

Dionysus wrote: »

amacachi wrote: »

Thatcherite? Really?

Yes, really. Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with the ideas, utterances and policies of McCreevy, most obviously when he was Minister for Finance.

FF are to the left of the British labour party. We've already heard that Germans are appalled by our generous social welfare.

Da_Doc

Nah, Il save the old grey matter for something worth discussing....debating who started world war two with your fine self certainly isnt worth it. And I believe boards allows me to express my disbelief at someones statement as long as I dont "attack the poster" so I shall huh? away.

Tayla

I am actually speechless :eek:

shanered

WTF?!?

FunkZ

Hang the flag at half mast, with Germany's EU Commissioners testicles blu tacked to the centre.

Dionysus

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Alternatively this is AH and people need to stop being so ****ing serious all the time.

Yes, please do ignore the incessant anti-German racism in After Hours. You see, old bean, it's all in great jest even though it may appear like the racist jingoistic Europhobic anti-German/French culture of the British tabloids has been swallowed by every marginalised illiterate who makes an appearance in After Hours.

It's just "fun", you see, quite like those other "fun" racist sentiments of the same section of British society not too long ago - you know, when those thick Paddys were portrayed as apes. Plenty of "laughs" there, too.

Well done, thick Paddys (seeing as racist stereotypes are now just "humour", this being After Hours - or is it only "fun" when it's Germans?) Let's all go back to the glory days of being under British dominance again. The vast majority of people here who engage in anti-German racism under the belief that they are somehow defending Irish sovereignty do not know their arse from their elbow. That's the long and the short of it.

Ireland's membership of the European Union has been the most liberating thing to happen to Ireland since the Easter Rising. You won't find that in your British tabloids or among the ignorant historically illiterate lugs who try to blame *Irish* idiocy on Germany (or whomever else the Europhobic British media tell them is to blame).

This loser anti-German scapegoating attitude by the rabble of society in Ireland is embarrassing beyond words. Accept Irish responsibility for the f uck-ups made by the Irish political and banking class. It's so bloody immature to blame Germans - and bringing the Nazis into it is mental retardation and loserdom blended to a supreme degree. Ah "humour". Jesus wept.

4leto

Dionysus wrote: »

Yes, please do ignore the incessant anti-German racism in After Hours. You see, old bean, it's all in great jest even though it may appear like the racist jingoistic Europhobic anti-German/French culture of the British tabloids has been swallowed by every marginalised illiterate who makes an appearance in After Hours.

It's just "fun", you see, quite like those other "fun" racist sentiments of the same section of British society not too long ago - you know, when those thick Paddys were portrayed as apes. Plenty of "laughs" there, too.

Well done, thick Paddys (seeing as racist stereotypes are now just "humour", this being After Hours - or is it only "fun" when it's Germans?) Let's all go back to the glory days of being under British dominance again. The vast majority of people here who engage in anti-German racism under the belief that they are somehow defending Irish sovereignty do not know their arse from their elbow. That's the long and the short of it.

Ireland's membership of the European Union has been the most liberating thing to happen to Ireland since the Easter Rising. You won't find that in your British tabloids or among the ignorant historically illiterate lugs who try to blame *Irish* idiocy on Germany (or whomever else the Europhobic British media tell them is to blame).

This loser anti-German scapegoating attitude by the rabble of society in Ireland is embarrassing beyond words. Accept Irish responsibility for the f uck-ups made by the Irish political and banking class. It's so bloody immature to blame Germans - and bringing the Nazis into it is mental retardation and loserdom blended to a supreme degree. Ah "humour". Jesus wept.

Post of the week, +1 +1 +1 excellently put.

Yahew

Dionysus wrote: »

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Alternatively this is AH and people need to stop being so ****ing serious all the time.

Yes, please do ignore the incessant anti-German racism in After Hours. You see, old bean, it's all in great jest even though it may appear like the racist jingoistic Europhobic anti-German/French culture of the British tabloids has been swallowed by every marginalised illiterate who makes an appearance in After Hours.

It's just "fun", you see, quite like those other "fun" racist sentiments of the same section of British society not too long ago - you know, when those thick Paddys were portrayed as apes. Plenty of "laughs" there, too.

Well done, thick Paddys (seeing as racist stereotypes are now just "humour", this being After Hours - or is it only "fun" when it's Germans?) Let's all go back to the glory days of being under British dominance again. The vast majority of people here who engage in anti-German racism under the belief that they are somehow defending Irish sovereignty do not know their arse from their elbow. That's the long and the short of it.

Ireland's membership of the European Union has been the most liberating thing to happen to Ireland since the Easter Rising. You won't find that in your British tabloids or among the ignorant historically illiterate lugs who try to blame *Irish* idiocy on Germany (or whomever else the Europhobic British media tell them is to blame).

This loser anti-German scapegoating attitude by the rabble of society in Ireland is embarrassing beyond words. Accept Irish responsibility for the f uck-ups made by the Irish political and banking class. It's so bloody immature to blame Germans - and bringing the Nazis into it is mental retardation and loserdom blended to a supreme degree. Ah "humour". Jesus wept.

What a hilarious racially anti-Irish post for an anti-racist.

If a German politician wants to humiliate other nations by lowering their flags he should expect his past to be brought up - holocaust, Marshall plan et al.

And as I have pointed out - and no serious economist disagrees - the ECB was run for the benefit of low growth Germany. Why shouldnt we point thus out? Do we just accept the humiliation if our flag, the mistakes of our politicians alone? Nonsense.

And it is not racist to mention the holocaust. It happened. Thats like saying it's racist to bring up Vietnam in a discussion about America. I suggest both Germans and germanophiles grow a pair.

( and feel free to lose your ill-earned feelings of mental superiority)

KeithAFC

You have to me wary of the Germans but also respect some of the things they have done in the past. Been some great Germans down the centuries. Karl Benz, Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit, Martin Luther and so on.

4leto

"Sins of the father" a Jewish and biblically concept. What has that got to do with the modern German. What has that got to do with anything, what has it to do with your life, I am sure you disagree with your father in some aspects???????????

LH Pathe

Why is it buffed ponytailed suits in Himmler rims that Indulge in sadomasochism with animals in their downtime rule the euro-roost? That's humiliation enough

Sam Vimes

amacachi wrote: »

They should also never be allowed to increase their pay to "get them to do their bidding" by that logic.

They're not. Their pay is decided by an independent body afaik

amacachi

Dionysus wrote: »

Yes, really. Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with the ideas, utterances and policies of McCreevy, most obviously when he was Minister for Finance.

Thatcher did love her generous welfare.

Orando Broom

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

And that tenth of the population were also Germans.
Bash the government all you like, I think they're absolute scum, but think about how much control the average Irishman on the street has over what goes on in the Dail and you'll realize how moronic it is to blast an entire nation for the behavior of a crappy government.

Most Germans I've spoken to don't want this crowd of assholes in their parliament any more than we do.

were you drinking when you posted this???? The fücking German people gleefully took the glasses off the Jews! They knew fully well what was going on and supported Der Furher! Jesus! This wasn't a government acting against the will of the people! Not for a second.

I'll bash the German's all I like those people haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to talking about affairs of state. They, AS A NATION, tried to systematically destroy a race of people. Lest we ever forget.

Apanachi

marcsignal wrote: »

They don't do slackers in Germany, everybody does their bit, and in doing so you can avail of the excellent transport system, excellent beer, excellent healthcare, excellent social services for the elderly and disabled, safe to walk the streets etc etc. They don't put up with nonsense from anyone. You wont milk the system in Germany and get away with it.

Yep, the beer is good, I'll give you that.

as for the rest

excellent healthcare? - well it's better than Ireland, but "excellent" it's not

excellent social services for the elderly and disabled?- I'm sure my wheelchair bound father-in-law would disagree

as for milking the system and getting away with it - the Germans are pros in that (in fact I think they might have invented the whole "milking the sytsem" thing - and if they didn't invent it, they sure as hell perfectioned it)


Sorry, but I've been living in Germany for over 15 years and while I love living here, it's not the utopia people seem to think it is

Elmer Blooker

Tigerbaby wrote: »

are you people for fcukin real? if we had followed the enlightened ideas of Herr Adolf, we would not be smothered by this Banking Junta under which we slave. He alone saw the damage and the plunder of Weimhar Germany, And He alone tried to implement the economic solution. This was so successful that it got a lot of "wealthy" ( we might call them neo-cons now) people worried. This was Long before the famous "final solution", which I believe was an abberation

Remember Judea declared war upon Germany in 1933. Not the other way round. Britain and France declared war upon germany, not the other way round.

Nations arent the enemy, its international banking systems. We have our own scum to blame. many of them of the FF green Republican party.

Boston or Berlin? give me Berlin any day..

Is this a wind up? Shouldn't this kind of stuff be in the conspiracy theory forum?

Joey the lips

Ha ha. The same people that brought us nice 2. We deserve it. We are a pack of gob****es....really. We are still making the same mistakes.

Biggins

Update: http://www.thejournal.ie/opposition-grows-to-german-commissioners-half-mast-flag-remarks-225924-Sep2011/

Opposition grows to German commissioner’s half-mast flag remarks

charlemont

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Is this a wind up? Shouldn't this kind of stuff be in the conspiracy theory forum?

Hate to agree with him but its actually true, But sure don't let the truth get in the way of German bashing.

Elmer Blooker

Tigerbaby wrote: »

are you people for fcukin real? if we had followed the enlightened ideas of Herr Adolf, we would not be smothered by this Banking Junta under which we slave. He alone saw the damage and the plunder of Weimhar Germany, And He alone tried to implement the economic solution. This was so successfull that it got a lot of "wealthy" ( we might call them neo-cons now) people worried. This was Long before the famous "final solution", which I believe was an abberation

Remember Judea declared war upon Germany in 1933. Not the other way round. Britain and France declared war upon germany, not the other way round.

Nations arent the enemy, its international banking systems. We have our own scum to blame. many of them of the FF green Republican party.

Boston or Berlin? give me Berlin any day..

I thought my knowledge of history was reasonably good but wasn't Herr Adolf's economic "solution" the rearming of Germany for the purpose of invading neighbouring countries (Lebenstraum or "living space") and either killing or enslaving their populations.

Latchy

KeithAFC wrote: »

You have to me wary of the Germans but also respect some of the things they have done in the past. Been some great Germans down the centuries. Karl Benz, Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit, Martin Luther and so on.

And they gave us the Autobahn/ freeway/ motorway to.. although they probaly stole that idea from the Romans .

Snakeblood

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I thought my knowledge of history was reasonably good but wasn't Herr Adolf's economic "solution" the rearming of Germany for the purpose of invading neighbouring countries (Lebenstraum or "living space") and either killing or enslaving their populations.

Nobody's perfect.:o