Germany commissioner wants to humiliate Ireland officially!

Latchy · 13-09-2011 05:11PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

It's alright, I'm sure the French will lend us a couple of theirs.

Oui !

SEPT 23 1989 · 13-09-2011 05:12PM

4leto wrote: »

Stupid war jokes we are worse then the British, modern Germany is not NAZI Germany and I think Germany in general are a good force in the world.

I used to think like that but

their carry on during this recession has changed that

prinz · 13-09-2011 05:12PM

Biggins wrote: »

Indeed not but if you read my post, you would have read what I actually stated: "coming from a generation or background..."
/end of..

/end of. Trying a bit of dictating their yourself?

Just did a quick scan on the first three pages of this thread and spotted ten references to Nazi Germany. One ignorant twat has been responded to by a lot more. The irony.

wolfpawnat · 13-09-2011 05:13PM

LK_Dave wrote: »

Why do Germans get so excited when it comes to flags?

Because the world banned one of theirs

Biggins wrote: »

Ever hear the saying "Eaten bread is soon forgotten" ?
Someone should remind him of that!

Dibs!!!

professore · 13-09-2011 05:15PM

4leto wrote: »

They would at least have more control over their own currency. But yes an impoverished europe is not good for anyone never mind germany.

Take us, if the Punt was reintroduce we would be lucky if it was worth one third of what the euro is.

So imported things like fuel would be 3 times dearer, and our wages would not increase.

Iceland for example when their currency collapsed.

I don't buy the one third argument. We have lots of exporters here making high value products and services. We'd still be in the single market. Something more like 2/3 of it's original value.

This would make our exports super cheap overnight ... creating lots of jobs here. Also since we would default on our debts, that millstone would be gone. Social Welfare would be slashed by 1/3 overnight. Also the Croke Park agreement could be adhered to without pay cuts. Our budget would be balanced overnight, since all the bills are 2/3 of what they were, so we could return to the bond markets if required.

Companies making good stuff that people want abroad would be paid in euro or dollars, and paying wages in punts could price things very competitively as real wages would be lower.

Remember prices in the shops would have to come down by 1/3 too as otherwise they will sell nothing. An article today said that prices here are still 18% above the EU average so there is scope there to trim prices.

Our government would then have a golden opportunity to keep a lid on costs as they would be back in control.

Bring it on I say.

foxyboxer · 13-09-2011 05:15PM

prinz wrote: »

/end of. Trying a bit of dictating their yourself?

Just did a quick scan on the first three pages of this thread and spotted ten references to Nazi Germany. One ignorant twat has been responded too by a lot more. The irony.

There

Grammar Nazi to the last, now let's get the Prinz flag flying at half mast! :pac:

prinz · 13-09-2011 05:17PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

There
Grammar Nazi to the last, now let's get the Prinz flag flying at half mast! :pac:;)

The 'p' is already at half-mast.

Latchy · 13-09-2011 05:18PM

So is the '' for gods sake , don't mention the war '' cliche out the window now ?

drdeadlift · 13-09-2011 05:20PM

This fiasco has gone on for what feels like forever.There isn't a constructive way to get out of this mess.

Adamantium · 13-09-2011 05:21PM

ALL HEIL THE FATHERLAND!! :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MYLtqL9T8

4leto · 13-09-2011 05:23PM

professore wrote: »

I don't buy the one third argument. We have lots of exporters here making high value products and services. We'd still be in the single market. Something more like 2/3 of it's original value.

This would make our exports super cheap overnight ... creating lots of jobs here. Also since we would default on our debts, that millstone would be gone. Social Welfare would be slashed by 1/3 overnight. Also the Croke Park agreement could be adhered to without pay cuts. Our budget would be balanced overnight, since all the bills are 2/3 of what they were, so we could return to the bond markets if required.

Companies making good stuff that people want abroad would be paid in euro or dollars, and paying wages in punts could price things very competitively as real wages would be lower.

Remember prices in the shops would have to come down by 1/3 too as otherwise they will sell nothing. An article today said that prices here are still 18% above the EU average so there is scope there to trim prices.

Our government would then have a golden opportunity to keep a lid on costs as they would be back in control.

Bring it on I say.

We are still out of the money markets, we are hugely indebted and we have virtually no gold reserves. It may even be worse then a third.

But with economics you can never be sure. I truly hope I am wrong.

teol · 13-09-2011 05:24PM

4leto wrote: »

Take us, if the Punt was reintroduce we would be lucky if it was worth one third of what the euro is.

So imported things like fuel would be 3 times dearer, and our wages would not increase.

Iceland for example when their currency collapsed.

If we had the Punt it would be pegged pretty much to sterling. Most of our exports go to the UK and USA anyway. We won't miss the euro at all.

FetchTheGin · 13-09-2011 05:27PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRTngtsOY8Q

marcsignal · 13-09-2011 05:28PM

4leto wrote: »

Stupid war jokes we are worse then the British, modern Germany is not NAZI Germany and I think Germany in general are a good force in the world.

C'mon 4leto, this guys inane suggestion deserves an appropriate response.
Jeez what does he expect ?

Having said that, I understand why the Germans are frustrated though. They don't do slackers in Germany, everybody does their bit, and in doing so you can avail of the excellent transport system, excellent beer, excellent healthcare, excellent social services for the elderly and disabled, safe to walk the streets etc etc. They don't put up with nonsense from anyone. You wont milk the system in Germany and get away with it.

I can understand when they look at us, and Greece, and get pissed off with all of the 'cute hoor jiggery pokery' going on. If we're serious about getting out of this shit, we're going to have to be as firm, but fair, on our own people, as they are with theirs. If you were living in Germany, and told your German friends you didn't want to work, you would be boxed off socially, nobody would want to be associated with you.

My sister-in-law works in welfare in Dublin, and you wouldn't believe the scamming going on. They know it happens, and in many cases they know who's doing it, but they haven't the rescources to deal with it.

If you don't play ball in Germany you don't get a cent, full stop. 'Resistance is Futile' to coin a phrase.

Still think this guys suggestion about the flag is totally moronic though.

dj jarvis · 13-09-2011 05:29PM

DonJose wrote: »

Mein arsekampf can be emailed at the following link, my email short and sweet, "You sir, are an idiot!!!"

http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/oettinger/contact/commissioner/index_en.htm

LOL - just emailed that clown - cant wait for his reply :eek:

4leto · 13-09-2011 05:29PM

teol wrote: »

If we had the Punt it would be pegged pretty much to sterling. Most of our exports go to the UK and USA anyway. We won't miss the euro at all.

They will try to peg it to to sterling as they did in the olden days, but because of our stifled position with the massive fiscal deficit and our NAMA and banking crisis we really do not have that option. It will be the IMF again but not the nice IMF.

We really don't want the Euro to fail.

Biggins · 13-09-2011 05:31PM

prinz wrote: »

...Just did a quick scan on the first three pages of this thread and spotted ten references to Nazi Germany. One ignorant twat has been responded to by a lot more. The irony.

...Or also reaping what is sown.

prinz · 13-09-2011 05:32PM

Biggins wrote: »

...Or also reaping what is sown.

Isn't that what we as a country are also doing?

meglome · 13-09-2011 05:32PM

teol wrote: »

If we had the Punt it would be pegged pretty much to sterling. Most of our exports go to the UK and USA anyway. We won't miss the euro at all.

Most of our exports go to the Eurozone. Pegging a currency to another currency isn't financial 'freedom'. And starting a currency backed by a state that is basically bankrupt is a flupping massively stupid idea, it would take a nosedive on the markets.

One German guy gives his opinion, so what. We deserve some humble pie after how we behaved for the previous ten years. The Germans came along and bailed us out after our epic stupidity and we're actually trying to blame them on something. We really deserve what we get.

marcsignal wrote: »

C'mon 4leto, this guys inane suggestion deserves an appropriate response.
Jeez what does he expect ?

Having said that, I understand why the Germans are frustrated though. They don't do slackers in Germany, everybody does their bit, and in doing so you can avail of the excellent transport system, excellent beer, excellent healthcare, excellent social services for the elderly and disabled, safe to walk the streets etc etc. They don't put up with nonsense from anyone. You wont milk the system in Germany and get away with it.

I can understand when they look at us, and Greece, and get pissed off with all of the 'cute hoor jiggery pokery' going on. If we're serious about getting out of this shit, we're going to have to be as firm, but fair, on our own people, as they are with theirs. If you were living in Germany, and told your German friends you didn't want to work, you would be boxed off socially, nobody would want to be associated with you.

My sister-in-law works in welfare in Dublin, and you wouldn't believe the scamming going on. They know it happens, and in many cases they know who's doing it, but they haven't the rescources to deal with it.

If you don't play ball in Germany you don't get a cent, full stop. 'Resistance is Futile' to coin a phrase.

Still think this guys suggestion about the flag is totally moronic though.

Well said.

gargleblaster · 13-09-2011 05:33PM

marcsignal wrote: »

They don't do slackers in Germany,

You wont milk the system in Germany and get away with it.

Interesting. I wonder why the US hasn't adopted their policies.

mikom · 13-09-2011 05:35PM

prinz wrote: »

Just did a quick scan on the first three pages of this thread and spotted ten references to Nazi Germany. One ignorant twat has been responded to by a lot more. The irony.

But they started it.
*adopts Basil Fawlty voice*

Biggins · 13-09-2011 05:35PM

prinz wrote: »

Isn't that what we as a country are also doing?

Some of us didn't do the sowing, didn't want the seeds and didn't want the results.

teol · 13-09-2011 05:35PM

4leto wrote: »

They will try to peg it to to sterling as they did in the olden days, but because of our stifled position with the massive fiscal deficit and our NAMA and banking crisis we really do not have that option. It will be the IMF again but not the nice IMF.

We really don't want the Euro to fail.

The great thing about having our own sovereignty and currency is that we can print money, creating inflation and effectively wiping out our debt. Just like the UK and the USA have done in the past 2 years.

My name is URL · 13-09-2011 05:36PM

meglome wrote: »

One German guy gives his opinion, so what. We deserve some humble pie after how we behaved for the previous ten years. The Germans came along and bailed us out after our epic stupidity and we're actually trying to blame them on something. We really deserve what we get.

Speak for yourself, and the Germans are hardly free of all blame for the problems which are affecting Europe as a whole right now.

As I said elsewhere, I welcome his comments and hope that others like him follow in his footsteps in order to remove any doubt that the EU in its current guise is utterly shambolic.

prinz · 13-09-2011 05:36PM

Biggins wrote: »

Some of us didn't do the sowing, didn't want the seeds and didn't want the results.

.... lol, the irony hasn't sunk in yet.. but sure 'we come from that background'...

"coming from a generation or background..."

Good enough to throw the Nazi insinuations around apparently.

4leto · 13-09-2011 05:37PM

marcsignal wrote: »

C'mon 4leto, this guys inane suggestion deserves an appropriate response.
Jeez what does he expect ?

Having said that, I understand why the Germans are frustrated though. They don't do slackers in Germany, everybody does their bit, and in doing so you can avail of the excellent transport system, excellent beer, excellent healthcare, excellent social services for the elderly and disabled, safe to walk the streets etc etc. They don't put up with nonsense from anyone. You wont milk the system in Germany and get away with it.

I can understand when they look at us, and Greece, and get pissed off with all of the 'cute hoor jiggery pokery' going on. If we're serious about getting out of this shit, we're going to have to be as firm, but fair, on our own people, as they are with theirs. If you were living in Germany, and told your German friends you didn't want to work, you would be boxed off socially, nobody would want to be associated with you.

My sister-in-law works in welfare in Dublin, and you wouldn't believe the scamming going on. They know it happens, and in many cases they know who's doing it, but they haven't the rescources to deal with it.

If you don't play ball in Germany you don't get a cent, full stop. 'Resistance is Futile' to coin a phrase.

Still think this guys suggestion about the flag is totally moronic though.

I just think those jokes are inane and moronic, everytime Germany make an announcement of any description the war is hauled up in some supposedly humourosh remark.

So when does that stop, how much time has to pass, do we mention the Roman bastards when Italy do something.

drdeadlift · 13-09-2011 05:37PM

meglome wrote: »

Most of our exports go to the Eurozone. Pegging a currency to another currency isn't financial 'freedom'. And starting a currency backed by a state that is basically bankrupt is a flupping massively stupid idea, it would take a nosedive on the markets.

One German guy gives his opinion, so what. We deserve some humble pie after how we behaved for the previous ten years. The Germans came along and bailed us out after our epic stupidity and we're actually trying to blame them on something. We really deserve what we get.

Well said.

If there were any light at the end of tunnel i would agree with you.But the loan they had to give us to keep their stuff together is unrealistic.

mikom · 13-09-2011 05:38PM

4leto wrote: »

So when does that stop, how much time has to pass, do we mention the Roman bastards when Italy do something.

When in Rome......

wolfpawnat · 13-09-2011 05:39PM

mikom wrote: »

But they started it.
*adopts Basil Fawlty voice*

DON'T MENTION THE WAR!!!!!

gargleblaster · 13-09-2011 05:39PM

4leto wrote: »

So when does that stop, how much time has to pass, do we mention the Roman bastards when Italy do something.

Using that yardstick, several hundred years.

Germany commissioner wants to humiliate Ireland officially!

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