Illegal Downloading Your thing??

AngryBollix

Theres more than enough free squirt porn to go around.

Chuck Stone

MungBean wrote: »

Fcukin too right I would. That would be brilliant.

'Don't be stupah - it wrecks da cheeyiz'

AngryBollix

Chuck Stone wrote: »

'Don't be stupah - it wrecks da cheeyiz'

I'm lovin' it

AngryBollix

John Doe1 wrote: »

I download a lot but I think a system like radiohead used where you could pay the price you want to pay for it would be preferable. I think music is overvalued to be honest.

What you really mean is that most people wouldn't take radiohead albums for free.

Redisle

http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/

Peetrik

Yep, all the time, I breath oxygen produced by trees on land I don't own also.

I feel roughly the same amount of guilt for both.

Conor108

Redisle wrote: »

http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/

"Hi, We have no records on you"

Dotrel

Peetrik wrote: »

Yep, all the time, I breath oxygen produced by trees on land I don't own also.

I feel roughly the same amount of guilt for both.

So you're the one who has been uploading all that CO2 then! :mad:

kowloon

Some of these anti-piracy measures are just annoying. Pirated movies don't have 5 minutes of crap that you can't skip through before you can play them.

Services like Steam aren't so bad if you have broadband. I'm more than happy to watch ad breaks on streamed tv services like 4OD.

Oranage2

I download and if the Music/film industry didnt try rip us off for so long....Who am kidding I'd still download, nothing beats free.

marketty

I find that downloading movies/music, even books, for free peaks my interest in those things again. All spending on entertainment is discretionary and nowadays l don't exactly have much to be splashing out on movies music etc. However,if I get interested in a director/band/author because of stuff I've downloaded, I will go and spend money on their next product. For example I own very few DVDs because I rarely re-watch movies,so I don't consider DVDs good value as they just clutter up the house. But i go the cinema regularly for the big releases because its usually better than watching at home.I haven't bought a CD in about 12 years but I have developed a much wider taste in music and really enjoy a good gig so I support the artists in that way. Anyway a lot of my favourite artists are dead so why bother buying the album, they're not getting the cash! Downloading ebooks has really got me back into reading which I haven't been for a few years, I buy more books than ever now. But it would piss you off paying nearly the same price to amazon for a legit ebook as the paper/hardback version, they're not providing a physical product really, just providing a license to access plain text!

Turtyturd

Redisle wrote: »

http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/

That showed a fraction of what has been downloaded from my IP address...and all of it has been downloaded by my brother. So now I am confused if I download or not.

Faith+1

Guilty as charged. My heart bleeds for the studios.

Einhard

I never do it mainly because I'm a technophobe and don't have a clue how to do it! Also I'm a bit of a hoarder and like to have the physical evidence of the movie or tv show to pop on my shelves.

I don't think of those who download illegal stuff in a negative way at all. However, what pisses me off is when some of those people get all ratty when the tv or record companies start to crack down on it, or when they attempt to defend it morally by stating that they're entitled to steal other peoples' property because they were being charged too much for it. That's BS of the highest order. Taking something that doesn't belong to you is illegal, whether it's online or in a shopping centre. If you want to do so, fair enough, but don't come along pretending you're some latter day Robin Hood or something, striking a blow against evil corporate overlords. You're not. You're doing it because you don't want to pay for it. That's fair enough- but don't try to dress it up as anything else.

Niles

To be honest I only even stream stuff if it can't be seen by other means... like say if I can't see the program at its broadcast time and there's no other way of seeing it.

At the same time though I don't look down on those who choose to download stuff...

Reminds me of this (from 1:25).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdjpWmeDN_E

Ironically I wonder if that video is legally meant to be on Youtube... :rolleyes:

Spacedog

I believe it immoral to pay money for 1s and 0s or imaginary property, when there are people starving in the world, and more worthwhile projects that progress knowledge and mankind. Wikipedia, FSF, erowid.org, cancer research charities, amnesty international etc and our own flagging educational system.

The argument in the US for cutting the budget of manned space missions from the 1970s was that there were more pressing needs on earth where the money could be better spent. well if that is the case for putting space exploration, science and the advancement of the human race on hold, then sorry. I've given these middle men too much of my cash already.

A lot of people here say they use itunes, netflix and other streaming services. streaming is a wasteful distribution technology, uses lossy compression and the files cannot be re-played or reused.

itunes restricts what devices you can play your own music on, and involves reconverting files, taking time, computing cycles, annoyance, and loss of quality.

I would only consider paying for music directly to the artist, if provided in an open source high quality, lossless DRM free file format.

The fact of the matter is that if file sharing had never existed, there would be no itunes, youtube, netflix or anything else, the distribution companies of the 90s would have never allowed it.

Steal this Film II

oh, and because i have a sense of fair play, there's an intelligent argument against downloading from BBC's Newsnight...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2PK2W-vVI

marketty

Turtyturd wrote: »

That showed a fraction of what has been downloaded from my IP address...and all of it has been downloaded by my brother. So now I am confused if I download or not.

It's a loada me arse that site because depending on the nature of your Internet connection you may not have a static IP, sometimes it will change and be used by others (although your ISP will still know who was on what IP at what time, sites like this won't). Unless someone in my house has developed a taste in Bollywood movies lately.

conor.hogan.2

Spacedog wrote: »

I believe it immoral to pay money for 1s and 0s or imaginary property, when there are people starving in the world, and more worthwhile projects that progress knowledge and mankind. Wikipedia, FSF, erowid.org, cancer research charities, amnesty international etc and our own flagging educational system.

Em how is Wikipedia made? How is the FSF site made?
With very real 1's and 0's.

aN.Droid

It depends on quality, i pay for an all you can eat music streaming service so im covered there. Movies I will usually download yes, but go to the cinema about 10 times a year, AAA games I will download to check them out and if they aren't a rushed piece of garbage I will usually buy them. Indie games I usually always buy.

Turtyturd

marketty wrote: »

It's a loada me arse that site because depending on the nature of your Internet connection you may not have a static IP, sometimes it will change and be used by others (although your ISP will still know who was on what IP at what time, sites like this won't). Unless someone in my house has developed a taste in Bollywood movies lately.

Well there goes the idea of giving a few mates the access key so I would have a few fall guys in case anyone found out about my downloading.

Bad Panda

With TV shows, I feel I'm not left with much choice but to download. We're so slow to get some shows over here still.

I still go to the cinema regularly and then if I like the film I'll download it (illegally) and add it to the collection. The only thing I'm not doing here is also buying the DVD, I've already paid in to see it so...

I'll download movies that are in the cinema that I wouldn't pay to watch regardless of whether I could download them or not.

Music: mostly illegally download, if I download a band's album and I really like it/them, I'll usually pay for the next one.

Mr Benevolent

Am I the only one to look at the title and think "How in the name of fuck am I supposed to illegally download my own cock?"

BlaasForRafa

marketty wrote: »

It's a loada me arse that site because depending on the nature of your Internet connection you may not have a static IP, sometimes it will change and be used by others (although your ISP will still know who was on what IP at what time, sites like this won't). Unless someone in my house has developed a taste in Bollywood movies lately.

Yeah, that site is full of sh--e, it alleged I'd torrented something last month when I haven't used torrents for years. It looks like something cooked up to scare the gullible.

af_thefragile

chiloutus wrote: »

I download almost all my music illegally. I started back when albums were 20euro a pop and a single would be 10 euro in shops. I figured the prices were just too high. Now with Itunes (Which I hate!!!) making things a little cheaper it is hard to justify my piracy. But I don't lose sleep about it because I know all involved in making the music are all much much richer than I will ever be.

Now Software I would tend to buy the ones that I would be using day to day. But I would normally use freeware as it is less restrictive eg. OpenOffice.

Games however I would never pirate because I believe that if you shop smart you will always get your moneys worth and those involved really care about there fans. (Valve!!)

Second that!

I only really download music (and Top Gear episodes) occasionally because musicians (and the TG presenters) are making enough money anyway that my downloading will affect them. That saying if I do support an artist, I will buy their CD. Like I bought the albums by NIN even when he put them online for free download. But lately I'm not big into music so I very occasionally download music if I come across something I like on youtube or something... I do buy Clarkson's christmas DVD when it comes out every year though!

I always buy software that I'll be doing serious work on such as Photoshop/CS as you get all the updates and its better if you publish your work that it wasn't created on a pirated software.

For Games, now that I've got a Steam account, I just wait for the sale or some good deals to pop up. I've got about 10 big game titles and 2-3 small indie ones and I've only spent less than 50eur on Steam so far!

Oh and I buy Blu Ray discs of good documentaries such as Planet Earth, Life, Frozen Planet, Brian Cox's Wonders of the Solar System etc. cuz its worth watching them on Blu Ray!!

lcrcboy

Bad Panda wrote: »

With TV shows, I feel I'm not left with much choice but to download. We're so slow to get some shows over here still.

I still go to the cinema regularly and then if I like the film I'll download it (illegally) and add it to the collection. The only thing I'm not doing here is also buying the DVD, I've already paid in to see it so...

I'll download movies that are in the cinema that I wouldn't pay to watch regardless of whether I could download them or not.

Music: mostly illegally download, if I download a band's album and I really like it/them, I'll usually pay for the next one.

Part of the reason is that films get more publicity in the US and this has a knock on effect when released in the UK - it gives word of mouth a chance to spread. A while back I wanted to take a friend to a small film in the UK - he wasn't interested as he had never heard of it. When the film was later released in the US and was a surprise hit, the same friend wanted to know "when is it coming out here, I want to see it" but by then it was long gone from cinemas.

For smaller films especially, only a limited number of prints are struck (they are very expensive) and these are shown in US cinemas and then shipped to the UK when they have played out, to save making more prints.

And actually its not all all unusual for even British films to open in the US first, especially if they are regarded as commercial.

There are an increasing number of films which now run against the trend however. In the last year some examples of US films which opened in the UK first are -

Lucky Number Slevin

Running Scared

An American Haunting

and the current "Smokin' Aces"

Another reason is the other films on release. Studios often don't want to compete with blockbusters or release similar films around the same time, and, conversely, sometimes want to offer an alternative to whatever the current major release is.

In the case of films hoping for awards, companies want to release films they hope will win awards as close to the end of the qualifying period as possible, so they will be fresh in voters minds. To qualify for an Oscar in the US a film has to be released before the end of the year, however in the UK films can still qualify for the UK Academy Awards (BAFTAS) if they are released in January or February, so we tend to get award winning or nominated films later. Also, studios want to release films internationally if they hope the will have garnered publicity from nominations. As schedules are made up months in advance, we in the UK tend to get any films that were ever hoped to be awrds contenders later than the US.

cursai

lcrcboy wrote: »

Part of the reason is that films get more publicity in the US and this has a knock on effect when released in the UK - it gives word of mouth a chance to spread. A while back I wanted to take a friend to a small film in the UK - he wasn't interested as he had never heard of it. When the film was later released in the US and was a surprise hit, the same friend wanted to know "when is it coming out here, I want to see it" but by then it was long gone from cinemas.

For smaller films especially, only a limited number of prints are struck (they are very expensive) and these are shown in US cinemas and then shipped to the UK when they have played out, to save making more prints.

And actually its not all all unusual for even British films to open in the US first, especially if they are regarded as commercial.

There are an increasing number of films which now run against the trend however. In the last year some examples of US films which opened in the UK first are -

Lucky Number Slevin

Running Scared

An American Haunting

and the current "Smokin' Aces"

Another reason is the other films on release. Studios often don't want to compete with blockbusters or release similar films around the same time, and, conversely, sometimes want to offer an alternative to whatever the current major release is.

In the case of films hoping for awards, companies want to release films they hope will win awards as close to the end of the qualifying period as possible, so they will be fresh in voters minds. To qualify for an Oscar in the US a film has to be released before the end of the year, however in the UK films can still qualify for the UK Academy Awards (BAFTAS) if they are released in January or February, so we tend to get award winning or nominated films later. Also, studios want to release films internationally if they hope the will have garnered publicity from nominations. As schedules are made up months in advance, we in the UK tend to get any films that were ever hoped to be awrds contenders later than the US.

Which UK site did you download this quote from

Shane732

BlackVPN + Peerblock....

Always practice safe piracy.

Longboard

Irony

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> http://www.geekosystem.com/anti-piracy-group-pirates-song/

G-Money

I've bought stuff legally from the likes of iTunes and other times I've sourced music and videos "in other ways", especially when it comes to American TV shows. It's unreasonable for us to have to wait weeks or months for some channel over here to put a show on TV. And how often do they chop and change the time and day it's on then skip showing it a certain week or whatever.

IMHO, people won't stop downloading TV shows until they're made available for them to watch legally (either streamed or via their TV provider) without having to wait for no reason other than the fact they are not in the US or Canada.

I guess also with music, occasionally particular versions of songs are not available through iTunes, again due to your location, or perhaps because the artist hasn't released it onto iTunes. In those cases sometimes you've no choice to be look in other places in order to find it.

MrPirate

Downloading? Me? NEVER!