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Racist Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Leftist wrote: »
    ell, to be frankly honest I couldn't give a flying fart.

    If someone thinks it's hurtful that an irish man says something bad about ireland then I think I'll get over it. Especially when they themselves haven't uttered a word in opposition to actual racism.



    You're saying that if you had 10 experiences that shaped your opinion of an entire race, that it is expected that you would learn from that point, to associate all members of that race with that same behaviour.

    And then you play the pc gone mad card.

    Just, think about it for a second instead of replying the same rubbish.
    What about hotels avoiding hosting traveller weddings or bars refusing admission to stags and hens, why would businesses turn away paying customers? Clearly due to negative experiences with these groups in the past.

    If a person has had a couple of bad experiences with black taxi drivers, it is an unfortunate but entirely natural consequence that the person with avoid black drivers in the future. It is unfair to the guys driving their cabs who never met this person and do a good job, but such is life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 limerickbanter


    I am not denying that there is racism in this country. Point out where I did. What I questioned was the claim that most Irish people were racist. That frankly is a load of bollocks and if you agree with that then it is you that has issues with others.


    There are geniune people in this country who except others with tolerence its a lovely thing to see. I want to make it perfectly clear to others and yourself that yes a lot of people are! have you ever experienced racism yourself ? Probably not. The point Im tryin to make is that the Iris arent really as tolerant as they could be. If I had an argument with someone the first thing they would point out is my race. I have a strong irish accent grew up here all my life on my passport it says Im Irish but the first thing they point out is my ethnicity. This comment may mean nothing to you but maybe It would change 1 persons opinion on tolerence and acceptance. Thats the point Im getting across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Leftist wrote: »
    most of the thread is irish people taking offense to the claim that racism is a big problem in ireland.
    They are more interested in protecting the image of irish people than actually giving a flying fart about real racism towards minorities.
    But sure you were carrying on at great length about how fat Irish people were yesterday, despite being thoroughly demolished. I think there's a problem here alright and its not Irish people.

    Did an Irish person eat your swans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    What about hotels avoiding hosting traveller weddings or bars refusing admission to stags and hens, why would businesses turn away paying customers? Clearly due to negative experiences with these groups in the past.

    If a person has had a couple of bad experiences with black taxi drivers, it is an unfortunate but entirely natural consequence that the person with avoid black drivers in the future. It is unfair to the guys driving their cabs who never met this person and do a good job, but such is life.

    Please.

    Don't even do that.

    Just, don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    But sure you were carrying on at great length about how fat Irish people were yesterday, despite being thoroughly demolished. I think there's a problem here alright and its not Irish people.

    Did an Irish person eat your swans?

    Oh poor doc, I'm sooo sorry. :(

    Get out yer fiddle there lad and we'll sing an auld rebel song.

    To be sure the sons of erin won't go down without a fight begorrah.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 limerickbanter


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Talking out of your arse then.




    I am not denying that there is racism in this country. Point out where I did. What I questioned was the claim that most Irish people were racist. That frankly is a load of bollocks and if you agree with that then it is you that has issues with others.



    More presumptuous nonsense. You know absolutely nothing of my background yet you make rubbish claims. You are no better than those you are criticising.
    Leftist wrote: »
    Please.

    Don't even do that.

    Just, don't.


    Leftist I think youve gone so far from the point its crazy, You mean well but its a little to PC. Makes me wonder have you ever encountered racism at all in your life.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Leftist wrote: »
    Sorry pal I was being facetious. An attempt at sarcasm on my part. most of the thread is irish people taking offense to the claim that racism is a big problem in ireland.
    They are more interested in protecting the image of irish people than actually giving a flying fart about real racism towards minorities.

    still going?

    how can you claim that you can judge an entire nation on a sample group.

    and on the other hand get extremley upset at some people who try judge a race on a sample group?

    I know you are just trolling, but do you not see the irony in your arguments?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭KINGVictor


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    some Irish do not like travelers, based on previous experience. with nigerians its no different. why suffer in silence and pay for the priveledge?

    i would distinguish between a dark skinned african and a nigerian. if you are around them long enough you recognise the differences. i find it hilarious that three nigerians could use the same ID and Irish people would not recognise teh difference

    Just wanted you to know what you wrote up there is total BS and very moronic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    This wont matter eventually as the world will be coffee coloured shortly.

    This century will be known for it's phenomenon of miscegenation at a higher rate than ever before thanks to globalisation.

    You'll see countries like America, Australia, Canada, and even countries like Britain become minority-majority nations somepoint all this century I reckon. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Vomit


    Yep, an African taxi driver said the same thing to me about 2 months ago here in Dublin. He told me he gets racist abuse all the time, and every day somebody slams the door on him upon seeing he is black. He said, "It is ignorance. You wouldn't get this attitude in England or America." I had to agree with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    bruschi wrote: »
    still going?

    how can you claim that you can judge an entire nation on a sample group.

    and on the other hand get extremley upset at some people who try judge a race on a sample group?

    I know you are just trolling, but do you not see the irony in your arguments?

    I'm irish pal. I'm aware of our cultural idiosyncrasies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    so, really the story is 'Taxi driver gets attacked'.
    is it cos he is black? No, it's because he is a taxi driver and has to deal with a fair amount of pissed up scum.

    As for 'qualified accountant', is his qualification relevant here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    Vomit wrote: »
    You wouldn't get this attitude in England



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Leftist I think youve gone so far from the point its crazy, You mean well but its a little to PC. Makes me wonder have you ever encountered racism at all in your life.

    he equated banning stag parties from hotels to avoiding services provided by black people.

    Think about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    so, really the story is 'Taxi driver gets attacked'.
    is it cos he is black? No, it's because he is a taxi driver and has to deal with a fair amount of pissed up scum.

    As for 'qualified accountant', is his qualification relevant here?

    here we go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Leftist wrote: »
    Oh poor doc, I'm sooo sorry. :(

    Get out yer fiddle there lad and we'll sing an auld rebel song.

    To be sure the sons of erin won't go down without a fight begorrah.
    Maybe you can give us a sneak preview of whats to come and just list off all the distasteful attributes you believe "Irish people" have.
    • Racist
    • Fat
    • ..?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    KINGVictor wrote: »
    Just wanted you to know what you wrote up there is total BS and very moronic.

    Can you explain to me your reply. Why is it BS. I'm white and I think I understand the post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Maybe you can give us a sneak preview of whats to come and just list off all the distasteful attributes you believe "Irish people" have.
    • Racist
    • Fat
    • ..?

    * Fiddles
    * Songs
    * Father Ted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Maybe you can give us a sneak preview of whats to come and just list off all the distasteful attributes you believe "Irish people" have.
    • Racist
    • Fat
    • ..?

    Inferiority complex.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Leftist wrote: »
    Please.

    Don't even do that.

    Just, don't.

    Why because race is soooo sacred and everyone is so sh!t scared of being called a racist (oh nos!) by the thought police.
    People make judgements based on past experiences, always have, race is not immune. Get over yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Gnobe wrote: »
    This wont matter eventually as the world will be coffee coloured shortly.

    This century will be known for it's phenomenon of miscegenation at a higher rate than ever before thanks to globalisation.

    You'll see countries like America, Australia, Canada, and even countries like Britain become minority-majority nations somepoint all this century I reckon. :)

    There's times I like the idea of everyone being brown but look at Brazil, doesn't seem to work out that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Topper Harley


    Leftist wrote: »
    And I think it's absolutely classic irish (as an irishman; 100% pure white btw) that the topic of racism within Ireland towards black people can be turned into victimhood of irish people, by another irish person.
    Leftist wrote: »
    But the real victims here are the irish people who have been insulted on this thread. Their heroics in struggling through such brutal treatment is a lesson to you and your kind.

    All anyone did was question your belief that most Irish people are racist. And none of the people who disagree with you deny that there is an element of racism present in Ireland, they just want you to show that you have any idea what the hell you're going on about.

    You then, instead of replying logically to any of these questions, created this straw man argument of "Irish victims".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    Leftist wrote: »
    really? described a black person as coloured has no racial implications to you? By describing someone as coloured you are basically lumping all non-whites into a bracket. Really nice. Whites and non-whites, that's the division.

    I don't buy the excuse that it was fine in the past. Hanging black people was fine in the past.

    what do you mean...it was fine in the past? No,it actually wasn't fine but hey, that statements speakes volumes about you leftist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    For all the uproar on boards about that "Horrible chav English woman" on the tram abusing those immigrants, are we any better? Seems to be happening on a large scale in Ireland. This is shocking stuff, in this day and age Irish people are carrying on like this. I've often seen people avoid taxis because the drivers are black, and I'm ashamed to say I have friends at home who do the same. Are we inherently narrow minded? My own view of it was that Africa is an exploited corrupt sh*thole and we should at least try and offer some of them a better life.


    You pay the piper so you call the tune. I would not get into a cab with a yob-looking cab driver nor would I get into a cab if it didn't look clean. Now the former may be a very nice man but have an unfortunate look about him and the latter might be driven by a father of 12. However, as it's my call, I can stay in the queue and pick the one I want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Intensive Care Bear


    Someone should tell this taxi driver that it is unacceptable to use the word coloured, just ask Alan Hansen ( sorry if this was said already i haven't read the full thread)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    1210m5g wrote: »
    Someone should tell this taxi driver that it is unacceptable to use the word coloured, just ask Alan Hansen ( sorry if this was said already i haven't read the full thread)

    We will all be looking forward to liverpool togging out in Alan Hansen tee-shirts next weekend so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    I have not read the thread but did someone say we should not call the black people coloured . What are we supposed to call them African Irish that's a load of bullsh1t . And for what it's worth I wish a few more of them would go home


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    For all the uproar on boards about that "Horrible chav English woman" on the tram abusing those immigrants, are we any better? Seems to be happening on a large scale in Ireland. This is shocking stuff, in this day and age Irish people are carrying on like this. I've often seen people avoid taxis because the drivers are black, and I'm ashamed to say I have friends at home who do the same. Are we inherently narrow minded? My own view of it was that Africa is an exploited corrupt sh*thole and we should at least try and offer some of them a better life.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/lsquoi-get-daily-racist-abuse-for-being-a-coloured-taxi-driverrsquo-2980239.html

    go to nigeria and see how racist they are towards white people... what goes around comes around, welcome to life!!


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