What's out there.

murphym7

Xantia wrote: »

Yes Pearl is still the main standby vessel.
A month on and a month off as far as I understand.
I was wondering why they kept pointing the bow towards the shore at night - to pickup terrestrial TV.

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They changed from 3 to 4 weeks around 2001 or so.

I was on the supplier and the supporter. Can't remember what the ariel setup was like on the supporter but on the supplier we had an ariel on a pole that moved through 180 degrees with a handle that came into one of the mess's. rte 1 & 2 had to be in a different direction to tv3, tv 3 launched while I was out there to much excitement.:)
Pearl came when I finished up with them, not sure about the ship facing towards the coast for tv reception though, not saying that is not what happens. But my experience out there is that most of the time you are beam on to the coast heading from alpha to bravo and back, over and over and over again, prevailing winds and all that, sometimes between them north to south, but generally alpha to bravo to one side,

murphym7

Nice pics by the way.

Xantia

I was on the Pearl but not by choice !
Got 'frogged' onto it twice during the Icelandic Volcano problem.
Not for the faint hearted...
Knew a few of the guys on board so was in the wheelhouse for most of the trip to Ringaskiddy.
2 hours after we berthed they lifted the ban on the heli.

Cant be easy being on board for a month - you would need a good hobby...

murphym7

Xantia wrote: »

I was on the Pearl but not by choice !
Got 'frogged' onto it twice during the Icelandic Volcano problem.
Not for the faint hearted...
Knew a few of the guys on board so was in the wheelhouse for most of the trip to Ringaskiddy.
2 hours after we berthed they lifted the ban on the heli.

Cant be easy being on board for a month - you would need a good hobby...

I was up on bravo for lunch once, was really jealous of the grub you had up there. The basket up and down With the crane takes a Little getting used to!

The 3 weeks was fine when I was out there, 4 would be fine too. It's not the hardest of standby/supply Jobs out there. You have tv and the phone and if you need to get home you were only a 4 hour steam away from cork.

I have some photos from the ship looking up, when I get back to work I will scan them and post them.

goldie fish

long range shooter wrote: »

Here is a good example of the dangers on a AHTS vessel.
Luckily no one got killed.

http://youtu.be/UKALBXZWipc


http://youtu.be/9yCQC0A3Fl8


http://youtu.be/7PFfQ2VRNP4

More modern anchor crankers are highly automated and when chain is coming on deck, there is no need for anyone to be anywhere nearby.

Xantia

Cool.
The lunch is different now because it's unmanned most of the time.
They carry it over from Alpha on day trips.
Temporarily they move accommodation onto the deck and have a cook on board if needed but it's all quite now most of the time.
And you can't go into the 'old' accommodation (Ghosts of Bravo) etc....

tricky D

a/tel wrote: »

Apologies, just annoys me when people who dont work full time in a certain place think they know it all about said industry.

Will keep it zipped....

ex_infantry wrote: »

was in slua long enough to know the in's and out's of the day to day running of the naval service hence why i joined the army instead all them years ago

No more posts on this matter. Back to What's Out There. Last word on the matter.

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Poor Uncle Tom

That sea looks gorgeous....

Xantia

It can change quickly though.
Last time I was out there it was a really nice day, dolphins annoying seagulls with their catch and so on, but the day before they had the 2nd highest waves recorded, cant remember what the height was.
All they are short is a nice beach with a bar down the road !

long range shooter

goldie fish wrote: »

More modern anchor crankers are highly automated and when chain is coming on deck, there is no need for anyone to be anywhere nearby.

I am afraid so,cause they still need to visually check if the chain is going into the lockers properly,and that the end isn't coming over the gypsy,cause them it's bye bye chain.
They have tried with cameras before,but they didn't last for for long.

goldie fish

long range shooter wrote: »

I am afraid so,cause they still need to visually check if the chain is going into the lockers properly,and that the end isn't coming over the gypsy,cause them it's bye bye chain.
They have tried with cameras before,but they didn't last for for long.

Saw one of the more modern ones with effer crane aft, operated from bridge, camera mounted on end of jib. Recovery was a 2 man operation, nobody required on the workdeck.

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long range shooter

goldie fish wrote: »

Saw one of the more modern ones with effer crane aft, operated from bridge, camera mounted on end of jib. Recovery was a 2 man operation, nobody required on the workdeck.

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Thanks,but no offense,I have worked on PSV/AHTS vessels for 20 years,7 as Captain.
From the oldest to the new modern.
And still we have to keep guys on deck,depending on where the chain lockers are placed,to keep an eye on the chain when it's going in or out.
One reason is to see how much space it is so it doesn't get filled over the limit,second is when the end comes out,so it doesn't go overboard.
And even on the modern vessel today,this is still needed.
There have been test with cameras in or above the lockers,but because of vibrations and poor visibility because of the rust dust from the chain,the cameras doesn't last very long.
It's better to have someone looking down the chain locker with a torch.
The accident shown from YouTube should never have happened,it was a human error,a inexperienced winch driver that put full force on the chain with the winch,while it was locked in the shark jaws.
I believe the vessel is the AHTS skandi Vega working for Statoil.

And the clip here is from Njord Viking,they are not using the lockers at all,they are taking the chain directly into the AH drum,normal procedure before braking loose anchor.espesially prelays.

long range shooter

Interesting vessel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_FLIP

http://youtu.be/tQxQfQU_hsk

RV FLIP (FL oating I nstrument P latform) is an open ocean research vessel owned by the US Office of Naval Research and operated by the Marine Physical Laboratory of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography.The ship is a 355 feet (108 meters) long vessel designed to partially flood and pitch backward 90°, resulting in only the front 55 feet (17 meters) of the vessel pointing up out of the water, with bulkheads becoming decks. When flipped, most of the buoyancy for the platform is provided by water at depths below the influence of surface waves, hence FLIP is a stable platform mostly immune to wave action, like a spar buoy. At the end of a mission, compressed air is pumped into the ballast tanks in the flooded section and the vessel returns to its horizontal position so it can be towed to a new location.The ship is frequently mistaken for a capsized ocean transport ship.

zagmund

Queen Elizabeth moored off Dun Laoghaire this morning. It looks mighty impressive from where I'm standing.

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ado100

Taken this morning in Dublin Bay.

Cookie_Monster

so much classier looking than that ugly one in the background too!

Conchir

The first photo in particular looks fantastic

Jambo

Brilliant Shots ado100, what camera / lens are you using ?

Hoof_Hearted

These are great shots thanks, it's some sight in the flesh, i saw it as I drove down from killiney hill, didn't know it was in and thought Stena had gone for broke!

ado100

Jambo wrote: »

Brilliant Shots ado100, what camera / lens are you using ?

Thank you Jambo. These were shot on a Nikon D600 with a 70-200mm f2.8. I was also lucky enough to have access to a RIB to get me out there - it sure was a beautiful morning for photography.

ado100

A few more from yesterday...

tricky D

Jambo wrote: »

Brilliant Shots ado100, what camera / lens are you using ?

You can get an Exif Viewer plugin for your browser. That'll give you loads of info unless the data has been removed by the photo hosting site.

tayto lover

Fascinating thread with some great pics. Well done lads.

roundymac

Ringaskiddy Ferryport and deep water berth 10/08/13.
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Tabnabs

Its not known much but the Spanish Fishing Fleet maintain their own hospital ship the Juan de la Cosa. They contacted Valentia Coast Guard today to be met by ambulances in Castletownbere. Two fisherman have been taken to hospital for more treatment and one to the airport for repatriation.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=589405627769943&set=a.513047368739103.110419.365726190137889&type=1&theater

HeidiHeidi

http://fastnet.rorc.org/2013-fleet-tracking.html

Fastnet Race tracker link.

Multihulls are approaching the rock fast. The rest of the fleet are being gradually spread out - it'll be a long, long race for some!

Lots of Irish boats competing, and at least eight regular competitors in the ISORA series.

Good luck to them all!!

ETA - I'm not entirely sure that link will work properly (or at all) on mobiles/tablets....

Also not entirely sure this is the right thread for it, but couldn't think of any better one!

Tabnabs

A bit further from home waters, but the saw this tweet on the excellent Rotterdam Pilots twitter feed

‏@RotterdamPilots

Big ships! Tomorrow 1 million tonnes dwt in 3 megaships in #portofrotterdam : Maersk McKinney Møller, Vale Rio de Janeiro ,Ti Europe.

And here she is arriving to much fanfare.



I see the Berge Stahl is also alongside, gone are the days they'd get a mention too!

Jambo

I seen that on the Rotterdam Pilots twitter too - some boasting point for the post considering most ports can take one of these vessels let alone 4 of them and then have plenty of room for more !

A few good photos of her already up on Marine Traffic http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9619907#top_photo

goldie fish

Can't understand why they still call themselves Rotterdam pilots. Most of the ships they bring in never get closer than Botlek. Would be like The Harbour master in Rosslare taking credit for Dublin Port traffic.

I still get a great kick out of saying "Schaveningen radio" in a dutch accent... Are the Pilot Ships gone from the Harbour mouth now?

Tabnabs

Not much different to Dublin Port pilots having to take ships in and out of Dun Laoghaire.

They're upgrading the pilots cutters with new ships http://wwwe.loodswezen.nl/en/news/issue-11-navigator-nl-online/1726,212/

Tabnabs

Check out the track history on the CIELO DI SAN FRANCISCO

Can anyone overlay that position onto a chart? 13kn to 06.kn in a very short space sounds, eh, interesting...

Yep, she's aground!
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/cargo-ship-runs-aground-off-coast-of-dublin-1.1499802

Freedive Ireland

Yeah the CG had it up on their FB page as well.

Atlantic Dawn

She's in motion now, must have successfully refloated.

How does a 2011 ship with a modern array of technology end up going aground?

pedroeibar1

Saw her out there yesterday from Killiney, did not pay much attention, quite hazy but could just see mast superstructure so thought it had something to do with drilling/windfarms or was waiting (unusual place) for the tide at Dublin. It looked as if she was well outside the banks but I guess she hit the outside southerly end of the Codling?

Tabnabs

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

She's in motion now, must have successfully refloated.

How does a 2011 ship with a modern array of technology end up going aground?

The 2/O draws a line over a sandbank and the captain signs off the passage plan without looking at it.

Or someone decides to take a short cut and deviates from the agreed plan.

323

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

She's in motion now, must have successfully refloated.

How does a 2011 ship with a modern array of technology end up going aground?

Remember being told at college that the modules "Electronic navigation aids" must always be treated as just that. These systems are Aids to navigation, not primary.

Purely personnel observations but more technology have seen installed the less many bridge officers seem to bother to look out the windows.

who the fug

mp22 wrote: »

In Bantry inner anchorage today http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9486037

See off the AIS she is back in again, any idea what she is doing

goldie fish

Due to anchor off Port of Cork later tonight. Maybe just extreme lay-by?

mp22

who the fug wrote: »

See off the AIS she is back in again, any idea what she is doing

Not a clue,I will ask the lads on the pier when I see them.

Poor Uncle Tom

Back off Cork again......

goldie fish

She's been at anchor there all week.

Poor Uncle Tom

I hadn't had a chance to check all week. I don't know why, I just like this boat ship.

loyatemu

the tanker Sichem Hong Kong has been anchored off Bray Head for the last week (and was previously anchored there for a long time in August), apparently waiting "for orders".

Is this unusual to have a ship sitting about at sea for such a long time, must be losing somebody money... also what do the crew do when anchored for long periods like this - can they get ashore?

islanderre

When @ anchor for periods like that, maintenance both deck and engine side get taken care of. In my experience at least, it was usually @ the captains discretion if shore leave was available...... sone were better than others at granting it too. Getting security clearance could be an issue too.

murphym7

loyatemu wrote: »

the tanker Sichem Hong Kong has been anchored off Bray Head for the last week (and was previously anchored there for a long time in August), apparently waiting "for orders".

Is this unusual to have a ship sitting about at sea for such a long time, must be losing somebody money... also what do the crew do when anchored for long periods like this - can they get ashore?

Depends on a lot of different factors but a lot of the time it's down to the price of commodities. As for coming ashore, not really the practice. The messiness of liberty boats and the added risk of having crew going and coming ashore isn't worth the headache for the old man. What do the crew do? Same thing they would do if they were underway, some sound captains might give Sundays off like when you are along side, a lot don't.

goldie fish

Spent many a weekend at anchor off the Humber, or worse, at Lay-By in Europort. May as well be at anchor for the latter as usually you tied up against some ancient rustbucket with the dodgiest looking gangway, which usually hovered about 5 foot above the quayside at high tide.
If you did go ashore, the nearest pub/shop was the seamans mission, 12 miles away in Petroleumhaven somewhere.
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Tabnabs

At least they're close to shore, I've drifted south of the Canaries, off the Cape Verde, South China Seas. They'll have tv and phone reception and the calender gets ticked off to paying off regardless of how you spend your time.

goldie fish

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Back off Cork again......

So she was at Whitegate for the last few days, left earlier this morning and is going to Anchor now again where she was last week. It is possible that her movements may have something to do with the maintenance phase that the refinery is in the middle of.

mp22

In bantry bay today http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=311052800&header=true

I can just see her from the house,nice.