Man pushed under Dublin Bus and decapitated

Emeraldy Pebbles

benwavner wrote: »

People still complaining why the traffic was so bad.....

They might not have known what happened.

Emeraldy Pebbles

Red Hand wrote: »

Yeah, I've always thought that that is the one junction in the city where a pedestrian could very easily get knocked down as the traffic zooms passed at a ferocious rate.

Not to trivialise the subject matter, but just thought I'd mention that Billy Connolly incorporated this very junction and its crazy traffic into one his acts a few years back.

Amalgam

Buses often catch\nip the kerb with their tyres on both sides of that junction, not a great place to be, as a pedestrian, even with your wits about you.

dodderangler

Zyzz wrote: »

Where exactly did this take place?! (which corner) Would have been there at that exact time if I had gone into college today

You wouldn't of wanted to be there
Trust me
Horrible thing for any person to witness

68 lost souls

Having been hit by a car in the past I know how lucky I was to survive but also how hard it is on those who not only witness these events and their family, I feel awful for the poor man and his family and friends. I hope those who witnessed this are ok and after the initial shock can go on about their lives. Its heart breaking, I remember being terrified at first to even cross the road but it does get easier that is all I can say to those effected, you come through the other side.

PizzamanIRL

dd972 wrote: »

just guessing that it may have been junkie types fighting among themselves as the most likely scenario, apparently there was some altercation prior to the incident, certainly hope it wasn't a tourist

What brings you to the conclusion that it was 'junkie types'?

And if so, does it matter?

bing3

Saw somewhere that they were having trouble identifying him, must not have been carrying any id.

Son_of_Belial wrote: »

After what I saw that surprises me not at all...

Son_of_Belial wrote: »

Defo something wrong with me then lol cos other than a strange adrenaline rush I'm perfectly fine...

I think there might honestly be something wrong with you. Your posts come across as abnormally callous.!

Truncheon Rouge

All the city centres a gathering of pushing shoving rushing dawdling bunch of muppets. im surprised there aren't more scuffles.
chaos ...and Ive said it before about massive coaches and buses being left with inches to negotiate their vehicles, god bless them they earn their wage.
the path along the trinity side of nassau st takes maybe 2 people side by side, so people step out all the time.

(ps couples/friends walking side by side on paths that take only 2 people - i actually exist in your dimension)

lufties

Trying to think of where the spot the incident happened. Is it just there where pat ingoldsby normally hangs out, close enough to a spar shop there.

starviewadams

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PrettyBoy

Jesus, that sounds absolutely horrifying. I can't imagine how the bus driver and witnesses must feel, truly shocking.

Rantandrave

dd972 wrote: »

just guessing that it may have been junkie types fighting among themselves as the most likely scenario, apparently there was some altercation prior to the incident, certainly hope it wasn't a tourist

Does it matter if it was a tourist, a junkie or the president??

A life is a life

Rabbitt

Rantandrave wrote: »

Does it matter if it was a tourist, a junkie or the president??

A life is a life

Horrible incident and deeply tragic. A dog wouldn't deserve to go that way so people referring to junkies or anyone else are out of order.

Chances are that driver may never work again. Really an awful thing to be involved in.
Sympathies to the deceased families and hopefully the driver andwitnesses get over this quickly.

PS: No wage or training can make what the emergency service deal with easier.

beefjerky

I saw the Garda and DFB there taping off the area from the office window last night after noticing the blue lights and could see the body, it didn't bother me at the time really and I didn't much think about it until I woke up this morning, but I nearly got sick walking past the spot on the way in just now, stomach is tied up thinking about it. I've walked that junction 5 or 6 times a day for the last 5 years.

Awful thing to happen. Really feel for the folks involved, from those who witnessed it as it happened, the driver of the bus and passengers, the taxi driver who was right behind, those who saw the body shortly after and of course, as someone already mentioned, the Gardai and DFB personnel who were first on the scene.

Condolences to the guys family and friends.

Aidric

Higher wrote: »

If I was there the first thing I would have done if I saw people taking photos would be to take the phone out of their hand and smash it. I honestly think I would lose the rag.

Oh you would ya. Leave the internet hardman alert behind, you're impressing nobody. Paying your respects to the deceased was enough.

MagicSean

bing3 wrote: »

I think there might honestly be something wrong with you. Your posts come across as abnormally callous.!

People process stuff in different ways. Not sure what qualifies you to say there is something wrong with him.

The Big Red Button

beefjerky wrote: »

I saw the Garda and DFB there taping off the area from the office window last night after noticing the blue lights and could see the body, it didn't bother me at the time really and I didn't much think about it until I woke up this morning, but I nearly got sick walking past the spot on the way in just now, stomach is tied up thinking about it. I've walked that junction 5 or 6 times a day for the last 5 years.

Awful thing to happen. Really feel for the folks involved, from those who witnessed it as it happened, the driver of the bus and passengers, the taxi driver who was right behind, those who saw the body shortly after and of course, as someone already mentioned, the Gardai and DFB personnel who were first on the scene.

Condolences to the guys family and friends.

Yep, I'm someone who walks along there several times a day too, I'm actually going to go into work a slightly different way today just to avoid it.

Was leaving work last night and I saw the body under a sheet on the road, this was before the scene was taped off or anything. I didn't see anything awful, thankfully - just that it was a body, and that there (obviously) weren't any attempts being made at resuscitation etc. Emergency services were only just arriving at the scene.

Really hope that they get the people involved in the incident. There's so much CCTV in the area, hopefully they'll find them.

Abi

Aidric wrote: »

Oh you would ya. Leave the internet hardman alert behind, you're impressing nobody. Paying your respects to the deceased was enough.

It's not really that far of a stretch from what I'd do, so I can understand the anger there. If it were me I wouldn't go smashing the persons phone, but I wouldn't be able to bite my tongue. Anyone with a moral compass would find this completely out of order and be angered by it.

Aidric

Abi wrote: »

It's not really that far of a stretch from what I'd do, so I can understand the anger there. If it were me I wouldn't go smashing the persons phone, but I wouldn't be able to bite my tongue. Anyone with a moral compass would find this completely out of order and be angered by it.

No doubt. By all means express your anger vocally but leave the vigilante justice out of it.

B.A._Baracus

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1207/post-mortem-due-on-man-killed-in-dublin.html

A post mortem is to be carried out this morning on a man who died at the junction of Dawson Street and Nassau Street yesterday evening.
Gardaí believe the dead man was involved in a confrontation at around 5.40pm and either fell, was punched or pushed on to the road where he was hit by a bus.
The man, who is thought to be in his 20s, sustained severe head injuries and died at the scene.
Gardaí are treating his death as suspicious and are searching for two men in connection with the incident.
They say they were both wearing hoodies and tracksuits and they are appealing to them or anyone with information to contact them at Pearse Street Garda Station.
They have spoken to witnesses and are gathering CCTV footage from the shops, businesses and city council cameras in the area.
Dublin Bus is also carrying out an inquiry.
Forensic examination of the scene will continue this morning and gardaí said Nassau Street, from the junction at Dawson Street to Grafton Street in the city centre, remains closed.

Lollipops23

I was walking through Trinity at the time and heard all the sirens (as well as a helicopter). Headed towards Grafton St and asked a Garda who was directing traffic what was happening (if it was a bomb scare I wanted to get the hell out of there) and he said someone had been very seriously injured.

Terrible thing to happen anyone- not even sure at this stage if it was just a horrible accident or worse.

My thoughts are also with the poor bus driver and anyone else who witnessed it- that's something it'll take a long long time to get over.

TwoShedsJackson

Terrible incident and all but the way the article is written:

Emergency services and gardai were quickly on the scene but there was nothing they could do.


They were faced with a scene of chaos. Traffic was diverted away from the area.


The area was cordoned off from the Nassau Street-Dawson Street junction.


A tent hiding the body was erected behind the bus which had passed over the man. Gardai also carried out an examination of the area around the road junction.


Officers interviewed witnesses, including the driver, but appealed to anyone who saw exactly what happened to contact them.


Motorists were urged to stay away from the area as the garda investigation intensified when it was realised they were not dealing with a routine road incident. Roads around the scene were closed as traffic built up.


A Dublin Bus investigation was also initiated.


Inspectors were sent to the scene.


A spokeswoman said they had a strict procedure for incidences involving buses. It included interviewing eye witnesses, trawling through cctv footage and checking out the scene of any incident.


Gardai are treating the death of man as suspicious but the investigation could be upgraded at a later stage.

is actually like what you might get if you asked an 11 year old to do it. Reads like 'what I did on my summer holidays'.

bing3

MagicSean wrote: »

People process stuff in different ways. Not sure what qualifies you to say there is something wrong with him.

I dont think you need to be a shrink to observe that getting a "..strange adrenaline rush.." after witnessing such a traumatic event, is not a typical reaction.
My condolences to any bystanders to have come across this.

Boards.ie: Neil

I witnessed the shock and horror on the faces of the witnesses as I walked passed, that's a scene I'm never ever going to forget, I still feel a bit off from it can only imagine what they and the bus driver are going through.

miamee

Son_of_Belial wrote: »

Defo something wrong with me then lol cos other than a strange adrenaline rush I'm perfectly fine...

Son_of_Belial, just catching up on posts from last night. I'm no expert but it is possible that you were in some kind of shock and that your brain hasn't really processed what you saw yet. I didn't read the spoilered part of your post, the rest was detailed enough to know that you saw everything close up and in detail. Take care of yourself and be aware that this might come back to you over the next day(s) or weeks.
It might not but just be careful.

Back on topic, I hope to God they can identify that young man so that his family are informed before they read or hear too much about it. RIP.

Dravokivich

Amalgam wrote: »

Buses often catch\nip the kerb with their tyres on both sides of that junction, not a great place to be, as a pedestrian, even with your wits about you.

It happens at a lot of junctions, I purposely stand away from the edge of the paths due to it. Being a foot closer to the road doesn't get you across any quicker when waiting for the lights to change. The problem there is Irish Mentality of "I've got to be first" all the damn time. If the victim wasn't forced onto the road (by whatever means pushed/punched/dodging), this junction would not be questioned as much by all of us here last night/today.

Regarding people complaining about those with camera's/camera phones taking pictures, it's not intended by them to be indecent, inhumane or to be disrespectful towards the victim. Ask them why they did it and they'd be fairly stumped to give you an answer. An action is not ill-thought when there was no thought behind it.

And I'm sick and tired of seeing posters pre-emptively complaining about "a swarm of the usual crowd of posters" lurking within AH looking to tear shít up. AH does not have any nature such as that, which a lot of people seem to attach to it and seeing it being posted time and time again in AH is pretty damn annoying. 3 fúcking posts is all that I saw that could be considered questionable, 2 had mod intervention quick enough, the third was largely ignored by most others.

RacoonQueen

That RTÉ article today, describing the people he was arguing with made me think maybe he was being mugged by that gang the media are always harping on about. Really wish I hadn't read that link to the indo article.

Poor bus driver, poor witnesses, poor guy.

Horrible story. Horrible.

take everything

Son_of_Belial wrote: »

I can't have been far from ya dude... You'll be grand... The way I see it - if it's now the worst thing I'll ever see in my life from this point on I'll take it just fine with no complaints.

You're coming across as ghoulish and your tone is barely disguised glee.
It's embarrassing.
Could you stop.
Or at least feign a normal reaction.
Thanks.

Dyr

Son_of_Belial wrote: »

Nassau/Dawson. You know there by that "colonnade" thing there - basically right in front of TCD Nassau St. entrance where the buses come down Dawson and turn left. Just at the corner there. It was dark, raining... Bus driver wouldn't have had a clue until it was far too late.

They need to do something about that junction & pedestrian island it's a model for this type of scenario, way too small for the volume of pedestrians and traffic.

Mental Mickey

Son_of_Belial wrote: »

I hear ya Don. Also, and forgive me for saying so, I mean it in the very best way, I know this man was a human being and I don't want people to think I'm comparing him to a dog or something but... Well... It was quick you know? He didn't suffer. If someone was to tell me and somehow know that I wouldn't die peacefully in my sleep and that it'd be in some sort of accident, I hope it's that quick and painless...

How do you know he didn't suffer???? He was hit by a great big f***ing bus. Mis-informed post imo.