Jimmy Saville report released.

getz

smash wrote: »

Your avi does you no favors!

lets not forget these people can only get away with it over the years if there is someone or organisation in a position of power that is covering it up,untill they are found out,these atrocities will continue.

lazygal

Wibbs wrote: »

Jesus christ, reading that is depressing. What's more depressing is that there's likely quite a number of similar enough people "hiding in plain sight" as we speak.

Time to root them out.

Dodge

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/11/jimmy-savile-reports-live-blog

Guardian is 'live blogging' the various reactions as they come in today.

Some startling figures.

mitosis

smash wrote: »

Was reading it earlier. Over 450 allegations with over 37 of them being rape... christ.

That's more than reported abuse by the Catholic Church in the Dublin Diocese in 60 years.

GalwayGuy2

Makes you hope for a real life Dexter:(

davet82

I have all the feelings most people have when they read about this scumbag; disgust, shock, sorrow but most of all i get frustrated that this wánker never got exposed while he was alive and it makes me so angry i just find it hard to follow the story...

there really is no justice in this world

WindSock

Too many do gooders using their do gooding status to be nogoodnicks.

Le church, O'Searchaigh, Savile...

makes you wonder how many people get drawn to these positions to abuse them under the guise of being selfless charitarians. The next volunteer I see, I'm going to chase them out of town with a burning pitchfork.

Jonny7

getz wrote: »

lets not forget these people can only get away with it over the years if there is someone or organisation in a position of power that is covering it up,untill they are found out,these atrocities will continue.

Anyone who knew about it and didn't expose it can be held to some sort of account

That includes the 13 hospitals

It appears few did though, either through fear or just the stigma of it

--Kaiser--

WindSock wrote: »

Too many do gooders using their do gooding status to be nogoodnicks.

What a sentence

squod

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I see his "work" with children was recognised by that paedophile organisation, the catholic church.

Knighted by the Pope

He wasn't a Catholic, he was a freemason.

padd b1975

padd b1975 wrote: »

Its a pity his victims (those who are still alive) could not find the courage to speak out sooner.

Many of them did, they didn't lack courage.

They either weren't listened to, were discouraged from seeking justice, or weren't believed.

clairefontaine

Candie wrote: »

Many of them did, they didn't lack courage.

They either weren't listened to, were discouraged from seeking justice, or weren't believed.

And then if they don't have enough evidence a man as powerful as Saville could sue for slander, accusing them of making false hysterical accusations, wanting to pick his pockets for lawsuit money, targeting him because he is wealthy.

clairefontaine

clairefontaine wrote: »

And then if they don't have enough evidence a man as powerful as Saville could sue for slander, accusing them of making false hysterical accusations, wanting to pick his pockets for lawsuit money, targeting him because he is wealthy.

He made both explicit and veiled threats to that effect several times it seems, even to two police officers interviewing him a few years back.

StinkyMunkey

Makes you wish there was a hell, this fuker deserves to burn in it.

asherbassad

Jonny7 wrote: »

Anyone who knew about it and didn't expose it can be held to some sort of account

That includes the 13 hospitals

It appears few did though, either through fear or just the stigma of it

Can't get yourself to accept this conspiracy either I see Jonny. This bastard was connected and protected and facilitated. Don't try to hang some lowly nurse out to dry when she was threatened with severe retribution by this thug and his enablers.

Meangadh

WindSock wrote: »

Too many do gooders using their do gooding status to be nogoodnicks.

Le church, O'Searchaigh, Savile...

makes you wonder how many people get drawn to these positions to abuse them under the guise of being selfless charitarians. The next volunteer I see, I'm going to chase them out of town with a burning pitchfork.

See, that's the problem. I know the pitchfork bit was tongue-in-cheek (I hope!) but honestly it is getting to the stage where it is so difficult to have faith and confidence in anything anymore.

There have been such awful atrocities done to children by various groups/individuals that to put your children in the trust of anyone anymore is so difficult. And yet the vast, vast majority of those who work with young people want the very best for them... but constantly have to watch absolutely everything they do for fear of being seen as someone that young people could be in danger with. It's so sad.

I have to say though, I have never in my life heard of anything on the scale of the Jimmy Savile stuff. Horrendous, and absolutely terrifying to think of how the hell he got away with it. It is just sickening that he never lived to be put to justice. There are no words to describe how much of a monster he was- I only hope that the revelations will give comfort to his victims in so far as knowing that people are now listening and ready to support them... albeit far too late, I know. It's unbelievable really, the whole thing.

asherbassad

squod wrote: »

He wasn't a Catholic, he was a freemason.

??

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

mikom

Duggy747 wrote: »

The worst thing is that the cùnt died and got away with it.

Don't worry, God will get him.........

asherbassad

Meangadh wrote: »

See, that's the problem. I know the pitchfork bit was tongue-in-cheek (I hope!) but honestly it is getting to the stage where it is so difficult to have faith and confidence in anything anymore.

There have been such awful atrocities done to children by various groups/individuals that to put your children in the trust of anyone anymore is so difficult. And yet the vast, vast majority of those who work with young people want the very best for them... but constantly have to watch absolutely everything they do for fear of being seen as someone that young people could be in danger with. It's so sad.

I have to say though, I have never in my life heard of anything on the scale of the Jimmy Savile stuff. Horrendous, and absolutely terrifying to think of how the hell he got away with it. It is just sickening that he never lived to be put to justice. There are no words to describe how much of a monster he was- I only hope that the revelations will give comfort to his victims in so far as knowing that people are now listening and ready to support them... albeit far too late, I know. It's unbelievable really, the whole thing.

You could probably entrust your kids into the care of the local gang of goth guys and girls. Goths look spooky but they're really gentle, caring, intelligent people. If anything your kid would be told great mythology stories and be given a cool henna tattoo.

clairefontaine

They get away with it because everyone else likes to go into denial, even the parents. It is so horrendous to think about, that people convince themselves of its impossibility. He groomed the nation. Once you understand how grooming works, you will understand how they get away with it.

fryup

as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth...listen to him talking about morality, 50sec in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFbICUjFuI4

:rolleyes:

Froyo

Pathetic people of AH using sick children's suffering to have a pop at the church. Well done.

Aidric

Seems Jimmy was pretty prolific in his depravity. I wonder just how much was known and how many facilitators there were.

StinkyMunkey

Froyo wrote: »

Pathetic people of AH using sick children's suffering to have a pop at the church. Well done.

Cause we all know the church are guilty of absolutely nothing.

mikom

Froyo wrote: »

Pathetic people of AH using sick children's suffering to have a pop at the church. Well done.

"Now then, now then, now then"

Doc Ruby

All of the evidence for his crimes existed long before he died. Nobody gets away with that unless they were protected, especially a high profile celebrity like him. Complaints from victims being ignored? This is systemic institutional corruption right down to the ground.

Makes you wonder what else is going on behind the curtain right now, and who's doing what.

asherbassad wrote: »

You could probably entrust your kids into the care of the local gang of goth guys and girls. Goths look spooky but they're really gentle, caring, intelligent people. If anything your kid would be told great mythology stories and be given a cool henna tattoo.

Funnily enough some of the most normal well balanced people I know have blue hair/tattos/piercings and wear white makeup with black clothes constantly.

3ndahalfof6

The thing is he is dead, nothing can be done to him and there will be no ease for the victims who suffered by his actions, the thing now is how many other jimmy like types are out there in tv land,

and will the powers to be pin point them, my heart goes out to anyone who has suffered from this type of abuse, from anyone, not just scumsaville.

mcmoustache

Froyo wrote: »

Pathetic people of AH using sick children's suffering to have a pop at the church. Well done.

This is a discussion about a paedophile (see title). It's natural for such a discussion to include paedophilia in general as well as how society deals with it.

People will naturally wonder how such a guy could get away with it for so long and given what the RCC got away with for so long in this country, it's hardly surprising that people will make comparisons - especially in trying to explain how he got away with it.

One more thing: Nobody here is using the suffering of sick children for anything. If anyone is trying to use the suffering of children to make a point, it's you.

mikom

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Young-Christians-Annual-Jimmy-Savile-/00/s/NDI5WDY3NA==/$%28KGrHqF,!jMFBkL010gZBQfElEvy4!~~60_12.JPG

ejmaztec

Froyo wrote: »

Pathetic people of AH using sick children's suffering to have a pop at the church. Well done.

That's standard procedure in AH because most of the people here are obsessed with anything even remotely connected to the Catholic church.

If a priest's dog happened to bite someone, the entire Catholic church would get the blame on here.