Disabled parking spaces. Do you..

Duck's hoop

Artful_Badger wrote: »

It doesnt happen though does it else all those spaces would be full which they aren't and if there was a few cars there I'd park elsewhere. Like I said I wouldnt take up a space is there was a remote chance it would be needed.

It doesn't happen because the majority of people abide by the rules you choose to flout.

If the majority thought like you there'd soon be no spaces free.

Artful_Badger

Duck's hoop wrote: »

It doesn't happen because the majority of people abide by the rules you choose to flout.

If the majority thought like you there'd soon be no spaces free.

Like I said I wouldnt park there if there was a remote chance someone would actually need the space. So if everyone thought the same as me there still would be no issue.

Duck's hoop

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Big chain supermarkets usually have a lot of disabled spaces, Tesco is the one I use. And if there was only a few I wouldnt use it. There regular spaces are usually full near the supermarket. Given there are so many unused spaces I dont see the issue in parking there in full knowledge I wont be a hindrance to anyone.

People who take issue with this are taking issue solely with the fact I'm parking in a disabled parking space and I'm not disabled. Nothing to do with taking one away form a disabled person or inconveniencing them in anyway. Its like taking issue with the fact I'm not putting butter into a cake mix despite it saying so on the box it. Its a pointless issue over nothing that affects nobody except those who feel the need to tell me I'm not doing what I'm "suppose" to be doing.

People are taking issue with you thinking you're somehow exempt from the rules everybody else adheres to.

I think you have successfully answer the OP's question.

Artful_Badger

Duck's hoop wrote: »

People are taking issue with you thinking you're somehow exempt from the rules everybody else adheres to.

I think you have successfully answer the OP's question.

Do you strictly follow every rule you've ever been told ? Or do you allow for a little bit of leeway because everything in life isn't black and white ? I follow the necessary rule of leaving spaces available close to the supermarket for those who need them. I don't however strictly follow the unnecessary rule that only disabled people are allowed to use those spaces.

MRnotlob606

my mother is disabled, it is infuriatng to see people who are not disabled parking in them

EricPraline

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I dont have to keep telling myself anything, its all very self evident that there is nothing morally wrong with parking in a space that nobody else is using or will need to use while I'm parked there.

Curious to know how you can predict this 100% correctly? If you do this frequently enough, it's inevitable that some day you'll be wrong, and you will park in a space that somebody genuinely needs.

bonzos

Pikeys park in the disabled spaced everyday in Longford while the local garda drive pass them and ignore this scumbag behaviour...the traffic warden spends 3/4 hour everyday in the bookies laughing and joking with the same wasters that are parked in disabled spaces and loading bays! Longford county council seem happy to waste taxpayers money on having an employee sitting in a betting shop while the town is out of control.

ballyharpat

ViveLaVie wrote: »

I was under the impression these toilets are for wheelchair users and other disabled people? Someone can be disabled and not look it.



I am not sure what benefit hand bars etc are to a blind person, or most other disabilities, and in most cases, the Wheelchair friendly toilets are not nearer anything than regular toilets, hence not a benefit to someone with a walking stick etc.
If they are of benefit to someone with a disability, so be it, they are not a benefit to people with just any disability though, so if you can use a regular toilet without hardship, then you should
They are generally called 'Wheelchair friendly toilets' 'Wheelchair accessible toilets' for a reason....

Patrick2010

Agricola wrote: »

My local hardware is in a big rented premises outside town with car parking for maybe 80 vehicles. Right in front of the door there are probably 20 disabled spaces. Which is stupid.
If I arrive on a quiet Tuesday morning at 10am to pick up a box of screws or nails, I will certainly park in one of them. Not the one right beside the door obviously cause Im not THAT big a cúnt. On the off chance a disabled person arrives in the same 5 minute window as me, I wont be the reason they cant park right next to the door. So far I havent come out to see one let alone a bunch of disabled people scrambling for spaces!



You see you're trying to reason using common sense. People on a PC circle jerk dont want your reason or common sense. They want to get infuriated about how inconsiderate your are to those poor little disabled people!

Where is this?. Any shopping centre I go to has hundreds of spaces with only about 4 or 5 assigned as disabled spaces. I can't picture anywhere that has space for 80 cars assigning 20 of them as disabled spaces.

Artful_Badger

EricPraline wrote: »

Curious to know how you can predict this 100% correctly? If you do this frequently enough, it's inevitable that some day you'll be wrong, and you will park in a space that somebody genuinely needs.

Well I cant predict it with 100% accuracy but I don't need to be 100% sure of anything to be confident enough in the likely outcome. I've never seen it remotely near being full and I wouldnt park there if it was. So unless there was something on where a lot of disabled people arrived to do the shopping at the same time I wouldnt ever be in a position to be taking a space from anyone. And as I said earlier I would only use it for a brief period. If I was going in for an hour long shop I wouldnt park there.

So I'd be sure enough as anyone would be when doing anything.

whirlpool

guapos wrote: »

In my experience lot of *people* don't realise that the spaces are wider to allow wheelchair users get in and out of the car and think theyre just being lazy and want to park closer

And those people are called morons, and some of them appear to be in this thread.

slimjimmc

ballyharpat wrote: »

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back on topic now though, what pisses me off along with people using disabled parking spots, is people that use wheelchair friendly toilets, the amount of times I have been waiting outside one, I knock on the door and 99% of the time, whoever comes out is a perfectly able person without a wheelchair, on more than one occasion, it has been teenage girls stepping out and then the justification has been, 'I wasn't using it, I just needed the mirror' I mean seriously, wtf, these are probably the same kids that are brought up by parents who tell them to slam their door off the car next to them, because society hasn't provided them with a parking spot for them to do whatever they f-ing want....

There's nothing wrong with able bodied people using wheelchair/disabled friendly toilets. Unlike a local authority disabled parking bay they are not exclusively for wheelchair bound /disabled persons, they're just toilets designed with those groups in mind. In many places able bodied persons are directed to use the 'disabled' toilets when the mens/ladies are closed for cleaning, eg. the AppleGreen service station on the M1 at Lusk.

ViveLaVie

ballyharpat wrote: »

ViveLaVie wrote: »

I was under the impression these toilets are for wheelchair users and other disabled people? Someone can be disabled and not look it.



I am not sure what benefit hand bars etc are to a blind person, or most other disabilities, and in most cases, the Wheelchair friendly toilets are not nearer anything than regular toilets, hence not a benefit to someone with a walking stick etc.
If they are of benefit to someone with a disability, so be it, they are not a benefit to people with just any disability though, so if you can use a regular toilet without hardship, then you should
They are generally called 'Wheelchair friendly toilets' 'Wheelchair accessible toilets' for a reason....

Yes but someone may need help using the toilet even if not in a wheelchair or may require privacy for an embarrassing condition that could affect their toilet habits. I'm just saying if a wheelchair toilet is of use to a person with a genuine need for it then it may not always be visible to you.

fallen01angel

I wouldn't occur to me to use a disabled car space ( or a Mother/Baby space for that matter) irregardless of how many of them were available/not likely to be used while I was shopping. I think it's quite simply an ignorant thing to do....so what if you have to walk an extra 50/100 feet,it's not going to kill you and if it's raining,it's actually not going to do any permanent damage.
I genuinely can't understand the mentality of "I've got to get as close as I can to the door".I've seen people lose the absolute plot because someone didn't move out of a space 8 seconds after putting their bums in the driver's seat!!!!I generally try to go to the quieter end( if available) of a car park for a couple of reasons-Less chance of some muppet smacking a car door into mine and a little bit of exercise .....win win for me

Ghost Buster

bonzos wrote: »

Pikeys park in the disabled spaced everyday in Longford while the local garda drive pass them and ignore this scumbag behaviour...the traffic warden spends 3/4 hour everyday in the bookies laughing and joking with the same wasters that are parked in disabled spaces and loading bays! Longford county council seem happy to waste taxpayers money on having an employee sitting in a betting shop while the town is out of control.

Longford eh. It probably local self important school principals, GAA types, bank managers and wealthy business men as much as travellers. Nasty little town is Longford

Ghost Buster

Curious George57 wrote: »

Yep I do it, the reason is that I only care about myself. I don't care about the well being of other people.

The first honest answer!

ballyharpat

slimjimmc wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with able bodied people using wheelchair/disabled friendly toilets. Unlike a local authority disabled parking bay they are not exclusively for wheelchair bound /disabled persons, they're just toilets designed with those groups in mind. In many places able bodied persons are directed to use the 'disabled' toilets when the mens/ladies are closed for cleaning, eg. the AppleGreen service station on the M1 at Lusk.

Right, but when there are other available toilets and some people just go in to put on make up or have another excuse, then it pisses me off.......they are also generally the toilets that are used for changing stations for babies etc-so yes, vie la vie, if someone has a valid reason for gaining from using them, then, no problem....and I am of course talking about when they are separate toilets, not when they are stalls in the same toilet....

ViveLaVie

ballyharpat wrote: »

Right, but when there are other available toilets and some people just go in to put on make up or have another excuse, then it pisses me off.......they are also generally the toilets that are used for changing stations for babies etc-so yes, vie la vie, if someone has a valid reason for gaining from using them, then, no problem....and I am of course talking about when they are separate toilets, not when they are stalls in the same toilet....

I understand your frustration, I'm just saying you may not always be able to tell from appearance if someone should be using them or not.

wexie

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I dont have to keep telling myself anything, its all very self evident that there is nothing morally wrong with parking in a space that nobody else is using or will need to use while I'm parked there. Keep rambling, insulting and condoning illegal behavior though. Cant let the scum win

It takes a special kind of moron to get on a high horse about doing the wrong thing.....

kneemos

Ghost Buster wrote: »

The first honest answer!

Probably all honest.

dark crystal

whatdoicare wrote: »

On the other hand, people can be absolute pigs. Mammy and baby spots are the same, people with two seater fancy cars and no car seat for kid parking just so people won't scratch their car leaving me struggling to get a baby into car and buggy into boot in a tiny spot. Drives me mad.

It's not just fancy two seater car drivers, it's generally just people who don't give a rat's fart how awkward it is to manoeuvre a small infant/child seat/buggy in and out of a car. They'd be the first to complain if you scratched the paintwork on their cars, though.

I've often seen seen people on here whine and bitch about how unnecessary parent & Baby spaces are, usually because they've never had to use them. Consideration for others is a foreign concept to some.

Mr McBoatface

stoneill wrote: »

Ignorant lazy cúnt



Lazy ignorant cúnt

Thanks, but I'm not lazy

Like I said, I'll park in a disabled spot if a disabled driver parks in the parent parking bays when the disabled spaces are free....this happens all the time, no respect shown none received.

I worked with a chap who lost a leg below the knee, he had a disable parking permit. We also went to the gym together, he had no problems on the treadmill or any other equipment. I ask him one time did he really need the permit, he said no but he used it because he didn't want the car damaged in "small spaces", that and the free parking in Dublin city centre was handy (he earned 150K +).

There are plenty of healthy people and able-bodied people traveling alone using these spaces for the same reason, their spouse may have an genuine problem but if they are not with them on the journey they've no right to use them but the do. The whole system is a joke and the worst abusers are often the poor mouths with the blue badge on board.

As another user commented, having 20 disabled places outside a DIY store makes no sense....I'll glady use these.

Thought you might enjoy the attached images too :pac::pac:

King regards from this ignorant cúnt

Ghost Buster

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

I have a condition that affects my blood pressure and heart rate to an extent that when it goes through bad phases I can only stand for a minute or two .Even on good days when I am standing the ground feels like it is moving under my feet,I'm often very dizzy,seeing double,I feel like I'm going to be sick,pass out and my heart is thundering in my chest. I look fine,I don't use a wheelchair. I have one of these disabled parking cards that I use when I'm a passenger in other people's cars because I can't drive right now.

If I go out, to the dr ,the dentist,wherever, I need someone to be with me all the time, I can't walk any distance alone into appointments or stand around waiting for someone to park the car any distance away from the entrance if they drop me at the door. People parking in disabled spots as often meant that I've arrived at an appointment or somewhere I needed to go and have had to just go home again because there was no way for me to safely get into where I was going.

On rare occasions when I have a "good day" and can conceive of being able to go out for a coffee for 20 mins(and 20 mins is my maximum safe sitting standing time ATM) I have to plan to go somewhere we can park directly outside, mostly to places with a disabled parking space. Several times I've got there and had to go home again because the parking space outside the place I wanted to go was gone. Then it might be a month or more before I'd be well enough to try again.

There are several comments on this thread about how there aren't that many disabled drivers etc so it's not a big deal to just park in a space for 20 mins. The truth is that there are lots of disabled drivers and passengers out there who really need those spaces. You saving five mins parking near the door for 20 mins can easily ruin an entire day for someone like me. Lots of people with these cards are not well,they can't just go to another shop 20 mins away etc, they have to plan trips that are physically capable of making or go to specific places because those places can accommodate their mobility needs. Theres already quite a lot of competition between disabled people for these spaces.Please don't park in them if you don't need to.

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Thanks, but I'm not lazy

Like I said, I'll park in a disabled spot if a disabled driver parks in the parent parking bays when the disabled spaces are free....this happens all the time, no respect shown none received.

I worked with a chap who lost a leg below the knee, he had a disable parking permit. We also went to the gym together, he had no problems on the treadmill or any other equipment. I ask him one time did he really need the permit, he said no but he used it because he didn't want the car damaged in "small spaces", that and the free parking in Dublin city centre was handy (he earned 150K +).

There are plenty of healthy people and able-bodied people traveling alone using these spaces for the same reason, their spouse may have an genuine problem but if they are not with them on the journey they've no right to use them but the do. The whole system is a joke and the worst abusers are often the poor mouths with the blue badge on board.

As another user commented, having 20 disabled places outside a DIY store makes no sense....I'll glady use these.

Thought you might enjoy the attached images too :pac::pac:

King regards from this ignorant cúnt

I think the post quoted above does indicate how ignorant you are.
Still find it funny?

Agricola

The uproar on here is laughable! Anyone with a functioning brain should be able to see where Badger is coming from. The only explanation for such bile (apart from an over abundance people who like a good "ITS A DISGRACE JOE" type of rant), is that this is a Dublin thing. I can well imagine that this would be a very real hot button issue in an area with a big population. But if people were to take a spin around recession hit Ireland off a weekday morning, they would see that most shops are hard pressed to see a car in the normal parking area let along one in the fúcking disabled zone.

willowthewisp

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Longford eh. It probably local self important school principals, GAA types, bank managers and wealthy business men as much as travellers. Nasty little town is Longford

What did Longford ever do to you?

Mr McBoatface

Ghost Buster wrote: »

I think the post quoted above does indicate how ignorant you are.
Still find it funny?

The OP asked what where the reasons why people used disabled parking spaces. I gave the reason I would, two clearly defined set of circumstances.

I doubt _Whimsical_ would be affected by my actions in the circumstances I described. I've no problem with my actions in the circumstances I outlined and will sleep soundly tonight. The biggest offenders are often those with the blue badge on board when there is no need, or those with disabilities who are still able to get around fine ....like my former work colleague.

My parking in a DIY store space when 19 others are free is not really a problem so get off your high horse

Ghost Buster

jobyrne30 wrote: »

The OP asked what where the reasons why people used disabled parking spaces. I gave the reason I would, two clearly defined set of circumstances.

I doubt _Whimsical_ would be affected by my actions in the circumstances I described. I've no problem with my actions in the circumstances I outlined and will sleep soundly tonight. The biggest offenders are often those with the blue badge on board when there is no need, or those with disabilities who are still able to get around fine ....like my former work colleague.

My parking in a DIY store space when 19 others are free is not really a problem so get off your high horse

That says enough.

Ghost Buster

willowthewisp wrote: »

What did Longford ever do to you?

Made me live in it for work and now i have to keep chasing Big Fish in a small pond types out of my works disabled parking spaces.:)

willowthewisp

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Made me live in it for work and now i have to keep chasing Big Fish in a small pond types out of my works disabled parking spaces.:)

The Gaa heroes are the worst ....

Mr McBoatface

Ghost Buster wrote: »

That says enough.

It's a disgrace Joe, a disgrace

kneemos

willowthewisp wrote: »

The Gaa heroes are the worst ....

In Longford?

ButtersSuki

This drives me crazy and I admit to going out of my way to highlight this behaviour when I encounter it. After checking for a disc, a firm but polite "you do realise that's a disabled parking bay you've just parked it?" normally shames most people into moving. I say normally but not always. 2 of my favourite non-compliance stories follow:

Ok, some background here to give this context. I'm 6'6" barefoot and make. I'm not built like a brick sh*t house but I did play sport at international level and still work out to the post whereby I'd be physically intimidating to most people to the point where they would likely think this is not worth arguing about! That said, I've never actually been in a fight as my height and build almost always gets me out of potential trouble. Until one night after training I decided to pick up a cd in the old HMV in the Blanchardstown Shopping Centre, not somewhere i'd admittedly normally go but it happened to be on the way to my next destination. after i parked and was making my way to the entrance a young "gentleman" took a corner practically on 2 wheels in an X5 an proceeded to park in the disabled bay closest to the door. I'd say he was about 25 max (i was older at the time of this incident). After checking to see did the vehicle have a disabled badge (on the offchance that he was collecting someone) I was about a third of the way through my "you do realise......" speech when he went for me with several punches and a barrage of insults. He was approximately a foot SMALLER than me so this must have been quite a sight for anyone watching it. After failing to connect with any punch he waddled off with his hands in the air like he was a champion boxer or something. It was truly bizarre. I won't lie, I was a little scared, partly due to the shock of actually being potentially assaulted for asking someone to move from a disabled bay. As I walked into the shopping centre, I approached a security guard who had seen the whole thing. I asked him did he see what had happened and he said he had. I asked him was he going to do anything about it and he asked me was I joking and did I know who that was? I didn't of course, Nor didi ask. I then asked was he going to clamp the jeep? He again said "are you joking?". I went to he customer service desk and complained and was told that they don't actually clamp cars that park in disabled bays as they have no clamps, just signs! Wowzers. I have often wondered since whatever happened to that Nidge-wannabe. :rolleyes:

Second one was just last week. I arrived at a Tesco Express at approx 5 PM and there was just 1 other car in the car park. I parked up and went in and got my bits and pieces and was out in less than 3 minutes. As I was leaving the store, a woman parked in one of the 2 disabled bays at the front door. I again got my pre-rehearsed speech out to get the following reply barked out at me:

"I'm parking there so I can see my children when I'm in the store, and anyway, I'll only be a minute."

There were only 2 kids in the car, both of whom had the local secondary school uniform on, one senior cycle and one junior (they have different colour uniforms for each cycle). I asked her did she not feel her teenage children would be safe parked in a regular parking bay esp. as she would only be a minute. She then just walked away from me. Charming.

timthumbni

dark crystal wrote: »

It's not just fancy two seater car drivers, it's generally just people who don't give a rat's fart how awkward it is to manoeuvre a small infant/child seat/buggy in and out of a car. They'd be the first to complain if you scratched the paintwork on their cars, though.

I've often seen seen people on here whine and bitch about how unnecessary parent & Baby spaces are, usually because they've never had to use them. Consideration for others is a foreign concept to some.

I used to complain about parent and child spaces. Then I had kids and realise how blooming hard it is to get a child into a child seat without adequate room. You really need to be able to face directly into the seat. Some of the narrower spaces it is almost impossible. The parent and child spaces are a godsend.

The retailers obviously realise this hence why they are provided. I know that a lot of people without kids park in them anyway with the argument that its their choice to have kids etc. That argument falls down quickly with disabled spaces.

RaRaRasputin

fussyonion wrote: »

I have a family member who has a badge, is not wheelchair bound, but has chronic arthritis in her ankles and knees, can walk about 10 yards before stopping to rest.

She applied for the badge, received it, is entitled to use it and you should hear the people who question her when she parks in a disabled bay. "What's wrong with you, you're not in a wheelchair!"

Sorry, but you don't have to be wheelchair bound to have a badge and I wish people would mind their own fcuking business when they see someone WITH A BADGE parking in the space.

That person's disability is none of your business and if they have a badge, it's because they were entitled to one.

If you park in a disabled bay and DON'T have a badge, you deserve to pay a hefty fine.

I also hate when someone without a badge parks in one and when questioned, says "My mother here can't walk".

SO WHAT? Tell her to apply for a badge, ffs!

Yeah can only agree, it's the same story when we park somewhere because my wife is sick and therefore has a badge, and people shout at her that she shouldn't have it if she's able to walk. I think many people just think of the spaces "only" being there for wheelchair users (who in all fairness need the extra space far more), probably because of it being the symbol for disability. Problem is just that if you tell them they are too embarassed, stubborn or stupid to admit their hotheaded behaviour and march off triumphantly

Chris Ryan

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Nope and I think anyone who does is a Cnut.

What if they're disabled? :P

Frosty McSnowballs

Chris Ryan wrote: »

What if they're disabled? :P

Pfft, sure all disabled people use the parent and child spots!

Mr McBoatface

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Pfft, sure all disabled people use the parent and child spots!

Next time I catch one doing that I'll let the air out of their tires.... That'll teach the bastards.

Frosty McSnowballs

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Next time I catch one doing that I'll let the air out of their tires.... That'll teach the bastards.

You go Jo!

Chancer3001

If they're not painted blue they are fair game.

Mr McBoatface

jobyrne30 wrote: »

Next time I catch one doing that I'll let the air out of their tires.... That'll teach the bastards.

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

You go Jo!

Got one

Grandpa Hassan

Finding the level of vitriol on display here quite amusing tbh. Disabled spaces in car parks are nothing more than bits of paint on the ground intended to encourage people to be nice. And some people are more considerate than others. That's life.

I wouldn't park in one myself (I have no such qualms about parent and child spaces), but, geez, is it worth getting this worked up about?

Duck's hoop

Yeah. It's a bit like the paint on the roads, continuous white lines, hard shoulder and the like. It's just a gentle encouragement.

Who really cares if people do what the hell they like as long as it suits them?

woodoo

Northerners are forever at it when they come down here.

darced

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ButtersSuki

darced wrote: »

That wont end well for you someday,why bother when it is really none of your business,I often would use one at Tesco's if there are plenty free and I'm in a hurry.
I would piss myself laughing if a jobsworth approached me about it to be honest.

Yeah, you're right. I'm the asshole.

Grandpa Hassan

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Yeah, you're right. I'm the asshole.

Maybe not. But you're getting way too stressed about it!

Knine

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Finding the level of vitriol on display here quite amusing tbh. Disabled spaces in car parks are nothing more than bits of paint on the ground intended to encourage people to be nice. And some people are more considerate than others. That's life.

I wouldn't park in one myself (I have no such qualms about parent and child spaces), but, geez, is it worth getting this worked up about?

Yes if you are the parent of a disabled child like me and you can't find a disabled bay to park in due to ignorant people, it can mean the difference between parking your car or having to head home with an upset child. The ignorance I have come across in the last few years is astounding and if you don't live with disability you would simply never understand.

For most of us life is tough enough with many challenges but being able to park your car should not be one of them. If you think there are plenty of empty disabled bays, try driving to your local Tesco on a rainy day.

leck

timthumbni wrote: »

It's a term to describe a girl or female. It's not used that often now but I think it's a nice word. (I'm from Northern Ireland btw so maybe its only a local thing)

No idea of its origin but I'm sure someone on here might.

I thought the word was cutty. In Donegal they use wee cutty to mean a young girl.

Fred Swanson

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joe stodge

The tesco in Clare hall has a fair few. they always have transits with orange beacon lights on them nd never a blue pass in the window.

Wouldn't say anything to the drivers in them about where they are parked.