Tragic Dog Killed by Firework

OldNotWIse

Knine wrote: »

There is no pointing the finger at a dog being chained up, allowed to produce more unwanted puppies with a different breed. The resulting 6 week old puppies wandering around the garden and hiding under a shed for shelter.

Some people simply should not be allowed have dogs. The tragic result happened because of how irresponsible the owners were.

Probably looking to make a quick buck on donedeal or gumtree no doubt.

looking_around

martingriff wrote: »

Dont know the possible reasons maybe they normally have a shelter but maybe some pups were inside it I agree a chain is not the best but at the time its better than nothing. Do we know where or how the pup died

alright, pups were in the kennel, bring the the dog that they "only" way they had to hold him was a chain.

It doesn't matter what you come up with, they could still have brought the dog in.

People using chains to hold a dog in this day an age is downright moronic. And two poor dogs are dead because of it.

FTA69

Einhard wrote: »

Man, people are so fu*cking judgemental in here. Family loses a dog? They deserved it. Chain a dog up= Automatically guilty of animal cruelty. WTF?

AH loves a good morality bandwagon.

fishy fishy

martingriff wrote: »

I am agreeing with you however the reason I asked about the puup is this.

A few years ago we had 2 dogs. We live in the countryside. I was home alone one day and heard them yelping. I went out to the door to see what was wrong they were been chased by few grayhounds that had escaped from nest door. I opened the door a bit for my dogs to come in one did and the other ran away. I had to shut the door to stop the greyhounds from coming in my door. Luckly my uncle came and chased them away however before he cam the dog indoor became agaited and started to run at the door to get out and help the other do and crashed into the door and tried to do it agin untill I restrained it.

Now I tell this story for a reason and it is this. Could it be possible that they normally have a shelter but due to the 10 pups and the mother the one who died could not be kept in it. If the pup was inside and did what my dog did it could have hurt itself or dies so we do not know what happened. The chain could have been temporary. We do not know

what has that to do with not brining a dog inside at halloween due to the noise - and when I say halloween, we all know that the fireworks go off for days before hand.

I mean it's common knowledge.

Dravokivich

fishy fishy wrote: »

what has that to do with not brining a dog inside at halloween due to the noise - and when I say halloween, we all know that the fireworks go off for days before hand.

I mean it's common knowledge.

There was nothing around my way until last night.

stoneill

I bet it was cats - cats with fireworks and chains.

martingriff

fishy fishy wrote: »

what has that to do with not brining a dog inside at halloween due to the noise - and when I say halloween, we all know that the fireworks go off for days before hand.

I mean it's common knowledge.

There may have been a shelter but due to having 10 pups and the mother there may have been no room for him so as a tempoary measure they were using a chain.
And NO its not common knoweldge fire works can go days before or after as another poster has said I heard nothing untill last night.

My story was in relation to the pup as it we do not know how it dies so that could have been one way.

fishy fishy

martingriff wrote: »

There may have been a shelter but due to having 10 pups and the mother there may have been no room for him so as a tempoary measure they were using a chain.
And NO its not common knoweldge fire works can go days before or after as another poster has said I heard nothing untill last night.

My story was in relation to the pup as it we do not know how it dies so that could have been one way.

not an excuse. a shelter does nothing for a terrified pet - a terrified pet needs to feel safe - being outside on a chain does not provide enough safety for a pet, especially when the warnings come out every year about dogs and fireworks. Some people should just not be given the responsibility of having pets.

martingriff

looking_around wrote: »

alright, pups were in the kennel, bring the the dog that they "only" way they had to hold him was a chain.

It doesn't matter what you come up with, they could still have brought the dog in.

People using chains to hold a dog in this day an age is downright moronic. And two poor dogs are dead because of it.

I am agreeing with you I am just saying what they might have thought and giving it was not haloween night but Wednesday they probably did not think it could happen.

Knine

If you don't have the facilities to keep 12 dogs then they should not have a dog & certainly not breeding them.

It says the puppy also got caught up in the chain. No surprise there considering the pups were only 6 weeks old & hiding under sheds.

The Backwards Man

I have a dog. It is chained more than half the time. It never gets in the house. It is considered an animal, not part of the family.

But I'll tell you so called 'dog lovers' in this thread one thing for nothing;

yous haven't a fcuking clue.

fishy fishy

martingriff wrote: »

There may have been a shelter but due to having 10 pups and the mother there may have been no room for him so as a tempoary measure they were using a chain.
And NO its not common knoweldge fire works can go days before or after as another poster has said I heard nothing untill last night.

My story was in relation to the pup as it we do not know how it dies so that could have been one way.

how do you mean they were using a chain for a temporary measure - how temporary?

fishy fishy

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I have a dog. It is chained more than half the time. It never gets in the house. It is considered an animal, not part of the family.

But I'll tell you so called 'dog lovers' in this thread one thing for nothing;

yous haven't a fcuking clue.

poor animal. Why have you got it..

martingriff

syklops wrote: »

You're clutching at straws there man.

Why I was just offering a possibility as we do not know. I am agreeing the dog should be inside and not on a chain do not like chains.

martingriff

Dravokivich wrote: »

While others are clutching at nooses.

Thats uncalled for man I know its after hours but that was terrible

Dravokivich

martingriff wrote: »

Thats uncalled for man I know its after hours but that was terrible

Eh, step back a second.

My comment was in reference to the lynch mob posting here. Not the dog that got strangled.

syklops

The Backwards Man wrote: »

yous haven't a fcuking clue.

Go on then enlighten us.

paul64

Anyone that has a dog tied to a chain is not in a position to keep a dog in a proper environment

martingriff

Dravokivich wrote: »

Eh, step back a second.

My comment was in reference to the lynch mob posting here. Not the dog that got strangled.

Sorry man when you had said "clutching at nooses" at thought you were making a distastfull joke

martingriff

paul64 wrote: »

Anyone that has a dog tied to a chain is not in a position to keep a dog in a proper environment

U*nfortunatly some who live in countryside we big boundaried don't. Yes they should build a kennell but see this as an option

Evelyn Cusack

paul64 wrote: »

Anyone that has a dog tied to a chain is not in a position to keep a dog in a proper environment

If you lived in a farm would you prefer they were locked in a shed at night time?

Knine

Evelyn Cusack wrote: »

If you lived in a farm would you prefer they were locked in a shed at night time?

No I would prefer they were indoors or in a run like other responsible dog owners & then those dogs would be still alive.

Jimmy_Long

Originally Posted by The Backwards Man View Post
I have a dog. It is chained more than half the time. It never gets in the house. It is considered an animal, not part of the family.

But I'll tell you so called 'dog lovers' in this thread one thing for nothing;

yous haven't a fcuking clue.

Can we chain you to a gate and not consider you as part of the family only feed you when we feel like it never wash you and give you a few kicks when we are walking out of the house

Frank Lee Midere

Surely dogs have to be chained in built up areas?

Dravokivich

Jimmy_Long wrote: »

Can we chain you to a gate and not consider you as part of the family only feed you when we feel like it never wash you and give you a few kicks when we are walking out of the house

You are inferring that's what the family from the article did with their dog when chained up?

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Surely dogs have to be chained in built up areas?

No point chaining a dog that can't jump the wall.

looking_around

Evelyn Cusack wrote: »

If you lived in a farm would you prefer they were locked in a shed at night time?

How about building a run for them? rather than giving them access to the whole "farm"?

A run, would be proper containment, and removes the need for closing in the whole field or whatever space you have.

Plus, we're on about the fact that when the dogs are scared they should be brought indoors.

And I say this as someone who's dogs are outside dogs, with proper containment, and they dislike being indoors.
We had them in, because with the fireworks(that weren't only going off last night). It was simply safer and better for them.

How hard is it to the same and understand why thats the right thing to do and not a damned chain?

Muise...

Jimmy_Long wrote: »

Can we chain you to a gate and not consider you as part of the family only feed you when we feel like it never wash you and give you a few kicks when we are walking out of the house

The Backwards Man keeps his dog on a chain; it does not follow that he neglects to feed it and kicks it in passing.

My name is URL

Knine wrote: »

No I would prefer they were indoors or in a run like other responsible dog owners & then those dogs would be still alive.

Dogs don't always deal very well with being indoors or in a pen all day. And there's nothing to suggest that the family didn't have a dog run. All anyone here knows is that the dog happened to be on a chain at the time of the incident. Which happened during the day, not at night time which people are also just assuming.

Jimmy_Long wrote: »

Can we chain you to a gate and not consider you as part of the family only feed you when we feel like it never wash you and give you a few kicks when we are walking out of the house

Brave man... signing up as a new user to post such shite :rolleyes:

Why not use your regular account?

The Backwards Man

syklops wrote: »

Go on then enlighten us.

Na. You all obviously know so much more about looking after animals than the likes of me, and know how to care for them much more humanely than I ever could. There's no way I could enlighten the experts posting here.

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Tragic accident or ruthless canine murder? From that pic looks to me like TJ is a bit dodgy, there is a definite Damian look to that smile on his face....