UK: Up to 1,000 children ‘drugged, beaten and raped’ in Telford grooming scandal

Red_Wake

Deleted User wrote: »

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

This is about power and perversion, not race.

Pure bull**** and outright lies.

It's just entirely aligned along racial lines tbf.

jacksie66

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Red_Wake

Red_Wake wrote: »

It's just entirely aligned along racial lines tbf.

Not even, it's among religious lines.
Sikhs in England have been complaining since the 90s about media etc. referring to "Asian" gangs, they don't want to be included in the BS. The gangs even target Sikh girls, anyone non-Muslim basically.
The other day the BBC mentioned 84% of those convicted in these cases have been South Asian. That won't include the Iraqis and Turks who've been caught. I wonder what common denominator they had with the 84%.

jmayo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Says the man whose society featured industrial schools for decades after the Brits had closed theirs, Magdalene laundries, Grace, Aras Attracta, etc.


Just how well do ye think that the welfare system in Ireland protects girls aged 14-17 who go into care here - especially foreign ones who are unaccompanied. Do you ever see reports about them going missing?

This is about power and perversion, not race.

Nice go at the old Deflection and Whataboutery.
What is even funnier is you were having a go at a poster who indulges in the exact same whataboutery and spends most of their time around here taking threads off topic.

Deleted User wrote: »

Not even, it's among religious lines.
Sikhs in England have been complaining since the 90s about media etc. referring to "Asian" gangs, they don't want to be included in the BS. The gangs even target Sikh girls, anyone non-Muslim basically.
The other day the BBC mentioned 84% of those convicted in these cases have been South Asian. That won't include the Iraqis and Turks who've been caught. I wonder what common denominator they had with the 84%.

In the past muslim gangs tried to hit on Sikh girls, but unlike the communities where they have been finding most of their victims, the communities predominantly sharing the same background as the police force, the local authorities, the child protection agencies, the Sikh community stood up and faced down the gangs.

Maybe they learned a bit from their ancestors and relatives in India in how to deal with such people.

One Tommy Robinson was recently suspended from Twitter for correctly pointing out the stats from the UK about paedo grooming gangs.

He pointed out that 84% of those convicted of child grooming-gang offenses since 2005 were from an Asian background. The report found 222 of 264 of people convicted of specific grooming-gang crimes were Asian.
And we all know what Asian means don't we. :rolleyes:

BTW the report was from counter-extremism think tank the Quilliam Foundation whose founder one Maajid Nawaz an ex Hizb ut-Tahrir member and political prisoner in Egypt.
Nawaz actually responded by messaging Twitter directly, standing up for Robinson.
He confimed as fact that the convicted are 84% Muslim compared to just 7% of population.

Maybe he is also a racist like Robinson :rolleyes:

end of the road

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Says the man whose society featured industrial schools for decades after the Brits had closed theirs, Magdalene laundries, Grace, Aras Attracta, etc.


Just how well do ye think that the welfare system in Ireland protects girls aged 14-17 who go into care here - especially foreign ones who are unaccompanied. Do you ever see reports about them going missing?

This is about power and perversion, not race.

hold on now. i'm well aware of my country's problems. i have never ever denied them and i have been hugely critical of all of them whether they exist currently, or existed in the past.
but for all of ireland's current problems, i'm glad i'm from ireland then britain. ireland is in many ways a much better country to live and i find i have a better lifestyle and quality of life here over all then i would likely have if i was from britain.
back to the actual topic, these vermin, the gangs and those who covered it up, must all be jailed for life and never be allowed back into society.

jacksie66 wrote: »

Just like the case in Newcastle West last week. Because it was perpetrated by a certain minority it has all but disappeared from the Irish media..

there hasn't actually been any update on that specific case from what i can see, so that's probably why it's not in the media at the moment.

weisses

Brexit ... Best thing that happened

20Cent

Interesting interview with a detective talking about how difficult it is to prosecute these gangs. Maybe the issue is with that rather than a conspiracy to avoid racial tensions.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/speechless-call-child-exploitation/

Pepefrogok

20Cent wrote: »

Interesting interview with a detective talking about how difficult it is to prosecute these gangs. Maybe the issue is with that rather than a conspiracy to avoid racial tensions.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/speechless-call-child-exploitation/

Its not even a debate anymore, there has been a huge investigation, the j report etc, stop trying to defend the indefensible, children were sacrificed at the altar of political correctness.

Captain Obvious

weisses wrote: »

Brexit ... Best thing that happened

How has this anything to do with Brexit?

ceadaoin.

In somerset, the victim of one these grooming gangs was prosecuted for a hate crime for "racially abusing" her rapist. Despite the police being fully aware that he had been in a relationship (as she thought it was because grooming) with this girl since she was a young teenager and that he had "relationships" with several other young teenagers, getting at least two of them pregnant, he wasn't charged with any crime until years later. They had multiple evidence of this guy's sexual relationships with underage girls over the years including

- receipts for abortions found in this man's home
- indecent images of the girls found on his phone
-multiple reports of abusive behaviour towards girls, threatening them with knives, forcing them to beg and pimping them out to his friends.
- parents going to the police about him on many occasions.
-being the father of at least 2 children with teenage girls
-the girl receiving counseling from social services after 2 suicide attempts where it is acknowledged she is suffering from PTSD as a result of the abuse from this man


Never were charges brought because the relationships were deemed consensual despite that being impossible in law. Yet all it takes is one report from him alleging racial abuse and a victim is charged with a crime. Unbelievable.


This is totally ****ed up. the disdain shown towards these girls by the authorities is disgusting. This is just one girl and her family who went through hell. Thousands more like her. It's indefensible and it's no wonder that the usual suspects who minimise, down play and deflect from these issues are nowhere to be seen in this thread

From this report


http://sscb.safeguardingsomerset.org.uk/download/3307/

In November 2011, perpetrator A complained to the police that 16 year old Q was verbally racially abusing him. She was charged and at a later trial found not guilty. By this stage Q had disclosed to police her sexual relationship with perpetrator A, and a police investigation had been initiated, but following her retraction the investigation was filed as no further action. Moreover, at the time of the incident perpetrator A was in the street with 6 teenage girls, which should have been viewed as a cause for concern, given the history of allegations known to police. A victim support letter was sent to Perpetrator A, although it noted the history of 'domestic issues' between him and Q. The officer in charge noted that A had been in an underage relationship with Q. However, there was no senior officer involvement and these factors were not shared with the CPS who made the decision to charge Q.


The police report for this serious case review suggests that on occasion police officers were confused over what was the most important issue to deal with, with the alleged 'hate' crime overshadowing the real offending taking place around CSE. Hate crime is seen as a high priority offence that requires robust action, and the response in isolation would be correct, but not when placed in the context of the wider picture already known to the police.

The prosecution of victims of CSE for alleged 'hate' crimes against the very people already known to have abused them is a further abuse of the victims, and will undermine any trust they might have in authorities.

end of the road

ceadaoin. wrote: »

This is totally ****ed up. the disdain shown towards these girls by the authorities is disgusting. It's indefensible and it's no wonder that the usual suspects who minimise, down play and deflect from these issues are nowhere to be seen in this thread

that's because nobody minimizes, downplays and deflectss from these issues. you will find nobody defending what is happening on this thread or any other threads discussing said issues.

ceadaoin.

end of the road wrote: »

that's because nobody minimizes, downplays and deflectss from these issues. you will find nobody defending what is happening on this thread or any other threads discussing said issues.

One person has already done the whole "what about Ireland/Catholic church" thing on this thread. Yes that was bad and a completely shameful part of Irish history too but is completely irrelevant to this discussion which has its own particular set of circumstances and causes.

And course, that sentence was the most important one to reply to from my entire post about the horrific abuse of a young girl and how she was failed over and over again for years.

Irish Praetorian

weisses wrote: »

Brexit ... Best thing that happened

Right because clearly what events like telford show is that britain's migrant population should feature fewer Poles and Belgians and more Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

If youre being sarcastic do pardon me for not realizing.

Wheeliebin30

What a ****ed up world.

Makes you despair reading stuff like this.

pilly

I know this will be an unpopular view but these girls parents have a lot to answer for.

It seems to me that more and more young girls in the UK are allowed to do what they want and it's very dangerous.

As a parent who struggled with a teenage daughter running wild I know it's a struggle but at no stage did I give up and say "ah go on, do what you want".

Experience_day

pilly wrote: »

I know this will be an unpopular view but these girls parents have a lot to answer for.

It seems to me that more and more young girls in the UK are allowed to do what they want and it's very dangerous.

As a parent who struggled with a teenage daughter running wild I know it's a struggle but at no stage did I give up and say "ah go on, do what you want".

Nice deflection. No the issue isn't the parents or the girls. Its the importation and acceptance without question of backward religions and cultures....

pilly

Experience_day wrote: »

Nice deflection. No the issue isn't the parents or the girls. Its the importation and acceptance without question of backward religions and cultures....

I am not trying to deflect whatsoever. I've no time for scumbags of any type.

Are you trying to say that parents aren't responsible for their children whatsoever????

splinter65

pilly wrote: »

I am not trying to deflect whatsoever. I've no time for scumbags of any type.

Are you trying to say that parents aren't responsible for their children whatsoever????

Most of these girls were in “care”. I use the word loosely.
Nobody “cared” about these girls in any real sense. The people charged with “caring” for them were all kowtowing to PCness in not offending the religious minority for fear of being lambasted by the liberal left. Cops social workers teachers, the whole lot. Terrified of having the finger pointed at you over your racism.

RDM_83 again

pilly wrote: »

I know this will be an unpopular view but these girls parents have a lot to answer for.

It seems to me that more and more young girls in the UK are allowed to do what they want and it's very dangerous.

As a parent who struggled with a teenage daughter running wild I know it's a struggle but at no stage did I give up and say "ah go on, do what you want".

Maybe some of them but we know from other cases that the parents were actually arrested for confronting their abusers.
Also AFAIK related to this scandal some of the abusers actually commited murder.

Grayson

splinter65 wrote: »

Most of these girls were in “care”. I use the word loosely.
Nobody “cared” about these girls in any real sense. The people charged with “caring” for them were all kowtowing to PCness in not offending the religious minority for fear of being lambasted by the liberal left. Cops social workers teachers, the whole lot. Terrified of having the finger pointed at you over your racism.

Don't dump it all on the "liberal left". Those kids were in care and the right give very few fcuks about them too. Children in that situation in the UK are even more worse off because of a decade of Tory cuts to their services.
In fact, the only time the right seem to cry out about children in care is when they have been targeted by asian paedophiles.

The fact is that we need to do a lot more to help needy children, both in the UK and Ireland. We need to make sure that the organisations that deal with them are properly funded and have the proper oversight.

What happened to the kids in the OP is horrible and we need to make sure that children have whatever help they need, for whatever reasons.

MilesMorales1

Grayson wrote: »

Don't dump it all on the "liberal left". Those kids were in care and the right give very few fcuks about them too. Children in that situation in the UK are even more worse off because of a decade of Tory cuts to their services.
In fact, the only time the right seem to cry out about children in care is when they have been targeted by asian paedophiles.

The fact is that we need to do a lot more to help needy children, both in the UK and Ireland. We need to make sure that the organisations that deal with them are properly funded and have the proper oversight.

What happened to the kids in the OP is horrible and we need to make sure that children have whatever help they need, for whatever reasons.

I absolutely agree. This is a systemic failure from labour and conservatives, and from the system in general. Nobody did their jobs, then we think its ok to point and laugh at these badly damaged and neglected people when they show up on stuff on like Jeremy Kyle.

ancapailldorcha

Have to say that I'm pretty enraged at far left Green MP Caroline Lucas using this to push her agenda:

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/973286189888393217

pilly

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Maybe some of them but we know from other cases that the parents were actually arrested for confronting their abusers.
Also AFAIK related to this scandal some of the abusers actually commited murder.

Don't know what murder has to do with what I said??

I'm not saying parents are responsible for bringing these scumbags to justice, maybe I put it the wrong way.

I'm saying parents are responsible for keeping their own children safe from harm. Now I accept that it's not always possible and you can't be with them 24/7 but a common thread in these cases appears to be that the girls involved were able to spend a huge amount of time hanging out with these scum, drinking and taking drugs.

As others have said some of these children were in care which is actually worse because the people meant to be "caring" for them were supposed to be paid professionals.

I'm not saying that there's not a problem with the lack of respect some cultures have for women and young girls what I'm saying is it's a bigger problem than that and society as a whole is to blame for letting children be in dangerous positions.

Mutant z

What ever happened to law and order is that going to be thrown away in the name of political correctness and cultural sensitivities.

pilly

pilly wrote: »

Don't know what murder has to do with what I said??

I'm not saying parents are responsible for bringing these scumbags to justice, maybe I put it the wrong way.

I'm saying parents are responsible for keeping their own children safe from harm. Now I accept that it's not always possible and you can't be with them 24/7 but a common thread in these cases appears to be that the girls involved were able to spend a huge amount of time hanging out with these scum, drinking and taking drugs.

As others have said some of these children were in care which is actually worse because the people meant to be "caring" for them were supposed to be paid professionals.

I'm not saying that there's not a problem with the lack of respect some cultures have for women and young girls what I'm saying is it's a bigger problem than that and society as a whole is to blame for letting children be in dangerous positions.

How long do you go at a time without contacting your daughter? Does she get an hour or two a week without you knowing exactly where she is? That's all it takes at the start. The grooming can start at a younger age and once they're 16/17 and allowed more freedom they've already been pulled in. Some in care, sure some parents won't pay "enough" attention.

I do find it fantastic though how "society" and "the elites" oh and the "system" and parents are all thrown out here. Usually people who throw out anything other than vilifying rapists are called "apologists" or "victim-blamers" but when it doesn't suit the narrative people will jump whereever.

Mutant z

Why doesnt anyone listen to those who dont think open borders are a good idea when you keep allowing unsavoury people into a country this happens and before anyone starts im well aware there are Irish scumbags but that doesnt justify importing even more in it definitely doesn't.

ceadaoin.

pilly wrote: »

I know this will be an unpopular view but these girls parents have a lot to answer for.

It seems to me that more and more young girls in the UK are allowed to do what they want and it's very dangerous.

As a parent who struggled with a teenage daughter running wild I know it's a struggle but at no stage did I give up and say "ah go on, do what you want".

If you read the report I posted yesterday you'll see that at least in the cases of the girls looked at in that, the parents contacted police and social services on numerous occasions. They supported their daughter through abortions and miscarriages, told the police everything and they did nothing. They got their daughter counseling where she disclosed the abuse and still nothing was done. I don't think they were the only ones who tried to get help. Another was murdered in a house fire along with her daughter by one of the perpetrators. At least two fathers were arrested trying to remove their daughters from their abusers. What else would you expect them to do if no one is listening? They must have been at their wits end. I'm sure some parents didn't do anything to stop what happened, we are know that abusers know to target the most vulnerable kids, but lots did and it's unfair to say they are to blame.

ceadaoin.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

If you read the report I posted yesterday you'll see that at least in the cases of the girls looked at in that, the parents contacted police and social services on numerous occasions. They supported their daughter through abortions and miscarriages, told the police everything and they did nothing. They got their daughter counseling where she disclosed the abuse and still nothing was done. Another mother was murdered along with her daughter by one of the perpetrators. At least two fathers were arrested trying to remove their daughters from their abusers. What else would you expect them to do if no one is listening? They must have been at their wits end. I'm sure some parents didn't do anything to stop what happened, we are know that abusers know to target the most vulnerable kids, but lots did and it's unfair to say they are to blame.

Hence the "some". My point was that for these scum to start getting into kids doesn't take bad parenting (though can make it easier). Take a 14 year old, talk to her for an hour every few weeks. Once she's 15/16 take her for a spin once a month. Have alcohol around. Fairly simple stuff.
Parents will likely find out too late if at all.

ceadaoin.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hence the "some". My point was that for these scum to start getting into kids doesn't take bad parenting (though can make it easier). Take a 14 year old, talk to her for an hour every few weeks. Once she's 15/16 take her for a spin once a month. Have alcohol around. Fairly simple stuff.
Parents will likely find out too late if at all.

Sorry I replied to the wrong post there . Edited now.

Completely agree with you

Mutant z

We live in a world where the perpetrators rights are considered to be more important than the victims how messed up is that.

pilly

ceadaoin. wrote: »

If you read the report I posted yesterday you'll see that at least in the cases of the girls looked at in that, the parents contacted police and social services on numerous occasions. They supported their daughter through abortions and miscarriages, told the police everything and they did nothing. They got their daughter counseling where she disclosed the abuse and still nothing was done. I don't think they were the only ones who tried to get help. Another was murdered in a house fire along with her daughter by one of the perpetrators. At least two fathers were arrested trying to remove their daughters from their abusers. What else would you expect them to do if no one is listening? They must have been at their wits end. I'm sure some parents didn't do anything to stop what happened, we are know that abusers know to target the most vulnerable kids, but lots did and it's unfair to say they are to blame.

I did not say parents were to BLAME, no-one is to blame but the scum who carried out the crime.

What I said what they've a lot to answer for.

You said yourself that abusers are known to go for the vulnerable kids so don't tell me there's not a grain of truth in saying that parents and society have to take more steps to protect our children.

And I will agree with others that this includes being careful of who we let into our country.

pilly

pilly wrote: »

I did not say parents were to BLAME, no-one is to blame but the scum who carried out the crime.

What I said what they've a lot to answer for.

You said yourself that abusers are known to go for the vulnerable kids so don't tell me there's not a grain of truth in saying that parents and society have to take more steps to protect our children.

do you have teenage children?

pilly

ceadaoin. wrote: »

If you read the report I posted yesterday you'll see that at least in the cases of the girls looked at in that, the parents contacted police and social services on numerous occasions. They supported their daughter through abortions and miscarriages, told the police everything and they did nothing. They got their daughter counseling where she disclosed the abuse and still nothing was done. I don't think they were the only ones who tried to get help. Another was murdered in a house fire along with her daughter by one of the perpetrators. At least two fathers were arrested trying to remove their daughters from their abusers. What else would you expect them to do if no one is listening? They must have been at their wits end. I'm sure some parents didn't do anything to stop what happened, we are know that abusers know to target the most vulnerable kids, but lots did and it's unfair to say they are to blame.

I'm not being sarcastic now but I don't see that report. Perhaps you could link it again? I've genuinely looked back over your posts.

pilly

Aegir wrote: »

do you have teenage children?

I've have 3 grown children who were teenagers once, yes.

Pepefrogok

Muslims are vastly overrepresented in rape over all, they make up 12% of the prison population in the UK, near three times their percentage of population, this is a serious problem that needs investigated! The head in the sand attitude won't cut it anymore!

Rory28

The only deserving punishment is to paralyse them from the neck down and let them rot in a cell until the bed sores get them.

ceadaoin.

pilly wrote: »

I'm not being sarcastic now but I don't see that report. Perhaps you could link it again? I've genuinely looked back over your posts.

It's in my post yesterday at 17.38


http://sscb.safeguardingsomerset.org.uk/download/3307/

This is from another case, not Telford btw but it seems to be a similar operation. Look at the missed opportunities section, particularly in relation to "child Q". Her parents asked for help and reported the abuse to police and social services on multiple occasions and nothing was done. Even when the child herself disclosed the abuse to a counselor, the information wasn't passed on to police or social services. Yet when the abuser alleged once that he was being racially abused by his victim, she was charged with a hate crime and brought to court. If that's not sending a message to these girls that they will be punished if they report these crimes then I don't know what is. I'd imagine there are many similar stories.

I agree that yes, there were some girls whose parents were neglectful, but even where they weren't they were actively denied help. Abuse and grooming can happen to any child, even one from a "good family". The main fault here lies with the local police and authorities (and the abusers themselves of course) and they need to be held accountable. Putting the focus on the parents is deflecting from the real issue, that many police forces and local services around the UK are not fit for purpose and are not enforcing the law to prevent the abuse of thousands of girls.

pilly

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's in my post yesterday at 17.38


http://sscb.safeguardingsomerset.org.uk/download/3307/

This is from another case, not Telford btw but it seems to be a similar operation. Look at the missed opportunities section, particularly in relation to "child Q". Her parents asked for help and reported the abuse to police and social services on multiple occasions and nothing was done. Even when the child herself disclosed the abuse to a counselor, the information wasn't passed on to police or social services. Yet when the abuser alleged once that he was being racially abused by his victim, she was charged with a hate crime and brought to court. If that's not sending a message to these girls that they will be punished if they report these crimes then I don't know what is. I'd imagine there are many similar stories.

I agree that yes, there were some girls whose parents were neglectful, but even where they weren't they were actively denied help. Abuse and grooming can happen to any child, even one from a "good family". The main fault here lies with the local police and authorities (and the abusers themselves of course) and they need to be held accountable. Putting the focus on the parents is deflecting from the real issue, that many police forces and local services around the UK are not fit for purpose and are not enforcing the law to prevent the abuse of thousands of girls.

Thanks for that, can't read it now as I'm on the move but I definitely will tomorrow.

I agree with what you're saying too. What I'm trying to say is more or less the same as you. I'm not trying to shift the focus to the parents, what I'm trying to say is that there are many different factors including police failure involved in this.

Ranting and raving about the brown guys all the time is not going to solve this problem.

Procedure has to be followed by police and it looks like here and in other cases it's not being followed.

But also vulnerable children need to be protected by all of us so that these fcukers don't get to take advantage of them.

ceadaoin.

pilly wrote: »

Thanks for that, can't read it now as I'm on the move but I definitely will tomorrow.

I agree with what you're saying too. What I'm trying to say is more or less the same as you. I'm not trying to shift the focus to the parents, what I'm trying to say is that there are many different factors including police failure involved in this.

Ranting and raving about the brown guys all the time is not going to solve this problem.

Procedure has to be followed by police and it looks like here and in other cases it's not being followed.

But also vulnerable children need to be protected by all of us so that these fcukers don't get to take advantage of them.

Yes I definitely think we are on the same page here. I haven't been ranting about the brown guys, but I know that some do. The problems come if they are the only people talking about it in the public sphere though and that seems to be the case here. I don't think the BBC have even covered this story yet? Covering stuff up like that can only lead to more people turning to the far right simply because there aren't any other options. We all know they don't actually care about the victims, only pushing their agenda.

It's undeniable that culture is a huge factor in these abuse rings and why they are allowed to continue. There are other factors too and all of them need to discussed to address the problem. Ignoring the elephant in the room can only lead to more problems further down the road.

pilly

pilly wrote: »

I've have 3 grown children who were teenagers once, yes.

Then you must know how difficult it is to keep tabs on them. Hell, mine goes out with her friends on a Saturday afternoon and with a leap card, can get all over town and back in time for tea

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't think the BBC have even covered this story yet? Covering stuff up like that can only lead to more people turning to the far right simply because there aren't any other options. We all know they don't actually care about the victims, only pushing their agenda.

why are people obsessed with this being covered up?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43385049

If you follow the links in the article, it takes you to numerous stories on the BBC site about this.

Because it isn't front page news on what you see (remember, you see the international version of the BBC website) it doesn't mean it is being covered up.

That said, I do feel the police are scared to act for fear of being branded racist.

Pepefrogok

Aegir wrote: »

Then you must know how difficult it is to keep tabs on them. Hell, mine goes out with her friends on a Saturday afternoon and with a leap card, can get all over town and back in time for tea



why are people obsessed with this being covered up?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43385049

If you follow the links in the article, it takes you to numerous stories on the BBC site about this.

Because it isn't front page news on what you see (remember, you see the international version of the BBC website) it doesn't mean it is being covered up.

That said, I do feel the police are scared to act for fear of being branded racist.

Put it this way, if news had broken that gangs of white men has specifically targeted thousands of ethnic minority children do you think it would have had the same prominence in the media? I believe it would be the first article on every bulletin, their would be riots, the government might even collapse.there have been so many examples of the government/media/police etc covering up for these people, most don't doubt it anymore, especially when they can literally see it happen

Sofiztikated

Pepefrogok wrote: »

Put it this way, if news had broken that gangs of white men has specifically targeted thousands of ethnic minority children do you think it would have had the same prominence in the media? I believe it would be the first article on every bulletin, their would be riots, the government might even collapse.there have been so many examples of the government/media/police etc covering up for these people, most don't doubt it anymore, especially when they can literally see it happen

You mean like that group of people that were arrested, last week, in Tipperary, that got bare coverage?

Captain Obvious

I never cease to be amazed at the scale of child abuse still going on. Seems like we've done a better job at convincing people drink driving is wrong than convincing them child abuse is. I hope these victims get some proper care, support and validation

splinter65

Sofiztikated wrote: »

You mean like that group of people that were arrested, last week, in Tipperary, that got bare coverage?

That’s not fair. And it’s dishonest of you because you know perfectly well that the judge put an extraordinary gagging order on that case in order to protect the identity of the children.
There is no comparison between the north of England paedophile scandal and the one in limerick .

splinter65

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I never cease to be amazed at the scale of child abuse still going on. Seems like we've done a better job at convincing people drink driving is wrong than convincing them child abuse is. I hope these victims get some proper care, support and validation

The media have been doing an excellent job for 25 years of convincing the people that only priests are paedophiles.
The whole child abuse within families and communities is far too uncomfortable for people to tolerate and won’t sell papers.
TUSLA in fairness have been trying to tell people for years that sometimes mammy and daddy aren’t fit for purpose but it’s too horrible to contemplate so it’s brushed under the carpet.
The boogie man is a stranger in a white van with black hair and a beard sitting in your estate.

gooch2k9

Aegir wrote: »

Then you must know how difficult it is to keep tabs on them. Hell, mine goes out with her friends on a Saturday afternoon and with a leap card, can get all over town and back in time for tea



why are people obsessed with this being covered up?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43385049

If you follow the links in the article, it takes you to numerous stories on the BBC site about this.

Because it isn't front page news on what you see (remember, you see the international version of the BBC website) it doesn't mean it is being covered up.

That said, I do feel the police are scared to act for fear of being branded racist.

It wasn't front page news on the UK version either, the one I see every day. Not accusing them of a cover up, but I did find it strange there was nothing on the story on the BBC until today. When I first saw the headlines, I went to the BBC website, and nada. I even searched and got nothing.

ceadaoin.

gooch2k9 wrote: »

It wasn't front page news on the UK version either, the one I see every day. Not accusing them of a cover up, but I did find it strange there was nothing on the story on the BBC until today. When I first saw the headlines, I went to the BBC website, and nada. I even searched and got nothing.

Yes, I did this when I first saw the story and aside from a few old articles about the individual trials, it wasn't there. I see it is now though

MilesMorales1

Is there a reason the BBC isn't covering this? If I was a cynical type, I'd think they were exploding this Russian thing to avoid having it headline news.

The Black Oil

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Is there a reason the BBC isn't covering this? If I was a cynical type, I'd think they were exploding this Russian thing to avoid having it headline news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43385049

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43391605

Pepefrogok

The Black Oil wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43385049

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43391605

Exactly! BBC tucking it away in their Shropshire regional service 8 hrs ago! While we all know if a few details of this story were different it would be main story home page all day every day! Good catch black oil!