DPD create 700 jobs , how many lost ??

LuasSimon

The news says DPD creating 700 jobs but how many physical shops are closing down or reducing staff due to all the online shopping . It might be the new world but let’s not fool ourselves that overall 700 extra jobs have come out of nowhere .

Who the hell has said anything of the sort

Ffs

LuasSimon

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who the hell has said anything of the sort

Ffs

It’s on the news DPD are creating 700 new jobs they have so much online shopping to deliver .

Potential-Monke

Best get used to it. Online shopping is the future, it wouldn't surprise me to see far less retail and far more food related stores in the future. There's a lot of stuff you can't get in shops, or it is far more expensive (particularly PC components).

Edgware

Many of the big outlets carry minimum stock levels now. It is regular practice for people to go shopping, check out items and then check online to see if they can get it cheaper or in the size online. Jobs are being lost in the main streets and shopping centres. However warehouse staff numbers, retails site I.T. maintenance and updating, distribution ( as in DPD) are increasing employment numbers. The best return per square metre in the big shopping centres is from food outlets and in particular coffee shops.
If we go to Level 5 lockdown over this weekend there will be an explosion of online shopping immediately as Christmas shopping in the traditional way is gone.
I love taking a day off work, bus into the city andspend the day browsing and buying, a few pints and lunch, break for coffee etc and maybe meet up with some old work pals.

Kowerski

LuasSimon wrote: »

The news says DPD creating 700 jobs but how many physical shops are closing down or reducing staff due to all the online shopping . It might be the new world but let’s not fool ourselves that overall 700 extra jobs have come out of nowhere .

DPD deliver for companies all over Ireland. Parcel Wizard is only one section of the company.

The .com bubble was in the 90s, bit late to be complaining about home deliveries

Liamo57

Its a whole new world order now. Survival of the fittest.

Thelonious Monk

Lots of jobs shouldnt really exist in my opinion. A new Penneys selling imported polluting fast fashion may create a few jobs but it's also killing the planet. Our current model of consume consume consume in the name of the economy and jobs can only lead to war and famine at the end of the day so we need to be looking at universal basic incomes and new ways of doing things instead of growth and consumption and being slaves to the economy being the only way.

completedit

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Lots of jobs shouldnt really exist in my opinion. A new Penneys selling imported polluting fast fashion may create a few jobs but it's also killing the planet. Our current model of consume consume consume in the name of the economy and jobs can only lead to war and famine at the end of the day so we need to be looking at universal basic incomes and new ways of doing things instead of growth and consumption and being slaves to the economy being the only way.

But muh carbon neutral economy.

pgj2015

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

seanod99

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

Have to agree, online shopping has plenty of advantages. lower overheads for stores leading to cheaper stuff being one, but if there is one thing I am grateful for about the pandemic it is highlighting the pitfalls of online shopping. Nearly everything I have ordered since the pandemic has been delayed, not arrived or have just received terrible service. I know it is all down to coronavirus at the moment but it has highlighted the pitfalls. I never had to submit a claim through paypal in my roughly 10 years of shopping and usually getting something every second week. I have submitted 3 since the start of the pandemic, because of people not responding to emails and no sign of the package etc.

The worst was something I ordered off a Northern Irish online store which also has a well known bricks and mortar store in this particular industry, it was dispatched quickly and delivered next day according to tracking, about two weeks after order I checked tracking and it showed delivered and signed for. I got onto the shop who pretty much shrugged me off saying it was signed for but would look into it. Bottom line between emails back and forth, and me opening a paypal dispute a month after me initially raising the issue they eventually looked into it. It was their fault, they had sent it to someone who had ordered something else a few days earlier, what I got was sorry we'll send it out to you now. They said they would contact the guy who it was sent to and would be very annoyed if he did get it and didn't notify them, so they were still trying to pass blame. A month and a half after I ordered it I got it and nothing more than a sorry. Absolutely apalling service and anytime I look for stuff now I avoid this particular company even though I have to wait an extra few days for stuff to come from European shops. Now in fairness any time I've had issues with delayed Amazon stuff or any other big online only outfit it has always been sorted almost immediately, my fear is when all the physical stores go they'll realise we have no other choice and the quality of customer service will go down.

The experience has encouraged me to shop local as much as possible. I just hope more people realise there is nothing better than walking in to face someone to solve an issue and not be talking or emailing someone halfway across the world to solve it two weeks later, alas it's probably too late.

ED E

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

Thats why online shopping is booming and eating main street retails lunch... (even before the rona)

jmlad2020

Covid is the final nail in the coffin for many a business with the assention of internet buying coming to a precipice.

They may not be dead just yet but will die a slow painful death..

whisky_galore

The brick and mortar retail shops aren't helped by upward only rent reviews and ball squeezing landlords.

440Hertz

Unfortunately, bricks and mortar retail will inevitably scale back, at least unless there’s a major reality check for landlords. The space simply isn’t worth what they’re charging for it anymore if the retailers can reach customers through the web.

And meanwhile An Post are snoozing. All the virus has done is accelerate the inevitable by about 5 years according to a piece I saw earlier. Even pre-virus the bank and the barber where the only businesses I had need to visit in my town centre and even at that we are talking every 4-6 weeks if that.

We find eating out here poor value for money and paying 40-50% more for clothes and especially shoes in shops vs online a no brainer once sizing is established.

Kowerski

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

Amazon has a free return policy. Just click in to return item and then print off the vouchers. Drop off to local An Post. I have done many times.

Kowerski

Deleted User wrote: »

And meanwhile An Post are snoozing. All the virus has done is accelerate the inevitable by about 5 years according to a piece I saw earlier. Even pre-virus the bank and the barber where the only businesses I had need to visit in my town centre and even at that we are talking every 4-6 weeks if that.

We find eating out here poor value for money and paying 40-50% more for clothes and especially shoes in shops vs online a no brainer once sizing is established.

An Post had the Amazon delivery and return buisness. It looks like Amazon are now creating their own in Ireland because of the amount of packages

Dempo1

So here we go again, DPD, Fastways, UBS, whatever your having courier companies annual and exciting breaking news of extra jobs. It's like a broken down record, every year around this time, the same announcements, getting a little tiresome and repetitive, of course, it all goes quite in February each year with not a whisper on all those exciting new jobs suddenly vanishing.

Alf Veedersane

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

The hair clippers I bought in April stopped working. Contacted Amazon and the supplier. They had me a replacement sent out in a week. Probably as long as it would have taken in a physical shop.

Have had no issues online shopping in general since March. Only time I came close was something I ordered wasn't in stock but I was offered something very similar - albeit more expensive- for the same price if I wanted or I could wait a week for the exact one I ordered.

Kowerski

Dempo1 wrote: »

So here we go again, DPD, Fastways, UBS, whatever your having courier companies annual and exciting breaking news of extra jobs. It's like a broken down record, every year around this time, the same announcements, getting a little tiresome and repetitive, of course, it all goes quite in February each year with not a whisper on all those exciting new jobs suddenly vanishing.

Except if you read the article this is not a Christmas bump.

Dempo1

Kowerski wrote: »

Except if you read the article this is not a Christmas bump.

I have read the article and listened to the MD from one of the firms on morning Ireland yesterday and was immediately reminded of Groundhog day, a not to distance memory of the same announcements, year in, year out at this time of year.

soundman45

Kowerski wrote: »

Except if you read the article this is not a Christmas bump.

Its exactly what it is, On their website it states all warehouse positions are a 3 month contract, as for drivers most will be self employed and dropped as soon as volumes fall after Christmas as is the normal for all courier companies.

Akrasia

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

This is a very good point. As online shopping has increased it has become much harder for consumers to verify the quality of the products on sale. Knock offs have always been around, but it used to be obvious, don’t buy the Rolex from the fellah who knocks on your window in the car park, now with online marketplaces and fake reviews and thousands of sellers to choose from, no matter how much research you do, you can still get ripped off

Normal One

I've spent about a billion euro buying craft beer online since March. The great thing is that you can filter by country on most sites so I can buy local, as in Irish, and support jobs directly, as many of the online retailers are breweries or in the trade longtime.

Kowerski

Akrasia wrote: »

This is a very good point. As online shopping has increased it has become much harder for consumers to verify the quality of the products on sale. Knock offs have always been around, but it used to be obvious, don’t buy the Rolex from the fellah who knocks on your window in the car park, now with online marketplaces and fake reviews and thousands of sellers to choose from, no matter how much research you do, you can still get ripped off

If you buy off dodgy websites then you get dodgy items. Buying something expensive off ebay because it is "cheap" will normally end up in tears.

Gruffalux

I admit to having increased my online shopping. Shops are simply a hateful way to spend time at the best of times, and now it is doubly hateful. Sure, I have used Bezo's demon spawn Amazon as, let's face it, it is amazingly handy and easy to use, but I have also used a lot of shops in Ireland. I bought products online for myself personally from Irish garden shops, a hardware shop, Irish health food stores, Atlantic aromatherapy, the handmade soap company, an Irish hand made mask maker on Etsy, an Irish clothing maker from whom I bought a fab woolen waistcoat, and I got some skin care products from a couple of Irish based chemists. And the Dr Hauschka supplier in Ireland who are great and always send a little treat. I also source a lot of very varied and specialised items for work and many of these are bought online from efficient Irish companies and then DPD or some other postal company deliver them really promptly. At this stage I know my usual DPD driver's life story. If I had to source all the work stuff in actual shops there would not be one minute left over to do other useful things. Point is that people will buy more online from now on. There is no changing that. So make a truly great and cheerful website, and adjust. Main street shopping centred largely around drink and food and yummy things like that, or individualised craft work or hands on services will not be so bad!

Dempo1

soundman45 wrote: »

Its exactly what it is, On their website it states all warehouse positions are a 3 month contract, as for drivers most will be self employed and dropped as soon as volumes fall after Christmas as is the normal for all courier companies.

100% correct, I'm glad for anyone who'll get the gig but sick and tired at these annual job creation announcements that never state the work is temporary and with lots of strings attached. Spun to sound like another multinational creating 100"s of new full and long term roles.

dodzy

Akrasia wrote: »

This is a very good point. As online shopping has increased it has become much harder for consumers to verify the quality of the products on sale. Knock offs have always been around, but it used to be obvious, don’t buy the Rolex from the fellah who knocks on your window in the car park, now with online marketplaces and fake reviews and thousands of sellers to choose from, no matter how much research you do, you can still get ripped off

Amazon are simply the best for customer complaints and returns policy. And returns are typically free - they make it so easy. Don’t know why the football boot was such an issue to resolve.

Darc19

whisky_galore wrote: »

The brick and mortar retail shops aren't helped by upward only rent reviews and ball squeezing landlords.

Long long gone (since 2010) for new leases.

And the standard retail lease is now 10 years, (retailers have rights to a new one if they want) the number of upward only reviews are in the minority.

Furthermore, examinership is relatively easy and can see an outlet being returned to the landlord.

The retailer has the upper hand these days.

Retail will never die, it evolves.

Akrasia

Kowerski wrote: »

If you buy off dodgy websites then you get dodgy items. Buying something expensive off ebay because it is "cheap" will normally end up in tears.

Amazon isn’t a ‘dodgy website’ but it is full to the brim with fake reviews, sellers who pretend to be UK based but are actually in China, knock off products making false claims

Then there are the stuff you might not buy very often so you aren’t familiar with the marketplace so can’t tell which retailers are reputable or not, the scammers have websites just as professional looking as the reputable shops, and the scammers have better reviews because they’re fake reviews

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-spot-a-fake-review

The internet is a fertile hunting ground for people with no qualms about how they make a quick fortune, and pop up dodgy selling can be very lucrative