DPD create 700 jobs , how many lost ??

LuasSimon · 16-10-2020 08:25PM #1

The news says DPD creating 700 jobs but how many physical shops are closing down or reducing staff due to all the online shopping . It might be the new world but let’s not fool ourselves that overall 700 extra jobs have come out of nowhere .

16-10-2020 08:26PM

Who the hell has said anything of the sort

Ffs

LuasSimon · 16-10-2020 08:35PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who the hell has said anything of the sort

Ffs

It’s on the news DPD are creating 700 new jobs they have so much online shopping to deliver .

Potential-Monke · 16-10-2020 08:44PM

Best get used to it. Online shopping is the future, it wouldn't surprise me to see far less retail and far more food related stores in the future. There's a lot of stuff you can't get in shops, or it is far more expensive (particularly PC components).

Edgware · 16-10-2020 09:01PM

Many of the big outlets carry minimum stock levels now. It is regular practice for people to go shopping, check out items and then check online to see if they can get it cheaper or in the size online. Jobs are being lost in the main streets and shopping centres. However warehouse staff numbers, retails site I.T. maintenance and updating, distribution ( as in DPD) are increasing employment numbers. The best return per square metre in the big shopping centres is from food outlets and in particular coffee shops.
If we go to Level 5 lockdown over this weekend there will be an explosion of online shopping immediately as Christmas shopping in the traditional way is gone.
I love taking a day off work, bus into the city andspend the day browsing and buying, a few pints and lunch, break for coffee etc and maybe meet up with some old work pals.

Kowerski · 16-10-2020 09:30PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

The news says DPD creating 700 jobs but how many physical shops are closing down or reducing staff due to all the online shopping . It might be the new world but let’s not fool ourselves that overall 700 extra jobs have come out of nowhere .

DPD deliver for companies all over Ireland. Parcel Wizard is only one section of the company.

The .com bubble was in the 90s, bit late to be complaining about home deliveries

Liamo57 · 16-10-2020 09:40PM

Its a whole new world order now. Survival of the fittest.

Thelonious Monk · 16-10-2020 09:43PM

Lots of jobs shouldnt really exist in my opinion. A new Penneys selling imported polluting fast fashion may create a few jobs but it's also killing the planet. Our current model of consume consume consume in the name of the economy and jobs can only lead to war and famine at the end of the day so we need to be looking at universal basic incomes and new ways of doing things instead of growth and consumption and being slaves to the economy being the only way.

completedit · 16-10-2020 09:44PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Lots of jobs shouldnt really exist in my opinion. A new Penneys selling imported polluting fast fashion may create a few jobs but it's also killing the planet. Our current model of consume consume consume in the name of the economy and jobs can only lead to war and famine at the end of the day so we need to be looking at universal basic incomes and new ways of doing things instead of growth and consumption and being slaves to the economy being the only way.

But muh carbon neutral economy.

pgj2015 · 16-10-2020 10:03PM

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

seanod99 · 16-10-2020 10:28PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

Have to agree, online shopping has plenty of advantages. lower overheads for stores leading to cheaper stuff being one, but if there is one thing I am grateful for about the pandemic it is highlighting the pitfalls of online shopping. Nearly everything I have ordered since the pandemic has been delayed, not arrived or have just received terrible service. I know it is all down to coronavirus at the moment but it has highlighted the pitfalls. I never had to submit a claim through paypal in my roughly 10 years of shopping and usually getting something every second week. I have submitted 3 since the start of the pandemic, because of people not responding to emails and no sign of the package etc.

The worst was something I ordered off a Northern Irish online store which also has a well known bricks and mortar store in this particular industry, it was dispatched quickly and delivered next day according to tracking, about two weeks after order I checked tracking and it showed delivered and signed for. I got onto the shop who pretty much shrugged me off saying it was signed for but would look into it. Bottom line between emails back and forth, and me opening a paypal dispute a month after me initially raising the issue they eventually looked into it. It was their fault, they had sent it to someone who had ordered something else a few days earlier, what I got was sorry we'll send it out to you now. They said they would contact the guy who it was sent to and would be very annoyed if he did get it and didn't notify them, so they were still trying to pass blame. A month and a half after I ordered it I got it and nothing more than a sorry. Absolutely apalling service and anytime I look for stuff now I avoid this particular company even though I have to wait an extra few days for stuff to come from European shops. Now in fairness any time I've had issues with delayed Amazon stuff or any other big online only outfit it has always been sorted almost immediately, my fear is when all the physical stores go they'll realise we have no other choice and the quality of customer service will go down.

The experience has encouraged me to shop local as much as possible. I just hope more people realise there is nothing better than walking in to face someone to solve an issue and not be talking or emailing someone halfway across the world to solve it two weeks later, alas it's probably too late.

ED E · 16-10-2020 10:30PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

Thats why online shopping is booming and eating main street retails lunch... (even before the rona)

jmlad2020 · 16-10-2020 10:34PM

Covid is the final nail in the coffin for many a business with the assention of internet buying coming to a precipice.

They may not be dead just yet but will die a slow painful death..

whisky_galore · 16-10-2020 11:15PM

The brick and mortar retail shops aren't helped by upward only rent reviews and ball squeezing landlords.

440Hertz · 16-10-2020 11:18PM

Unfortunately, bricks and mortar retail will inevitably scale back, at least unless there’s a major reality check for landlords. The space simply isn’t worth what they’re charging for it anymore if the retailers can reach customers through the web.

16-10-2020 11:48PM

And meanwhile An Post are snoozing. All the virus has done is accelerate the inevitable by about 5 years according to a piece I saw earlier. Even pre-virus the bank and the barber where the only businesses I had need to visit in my town centre and even at that we are talking every 4-6 weeks if that.

We find eating out here poor value for money and paying 40-50% more for clothes and especially shoes in shops vs online a no brainer once sizing is established.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 07:12AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

Amazon has a free return policy. Just click in to return item and then print off the vouchers. Drop off to local An Post. I have done many times.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 07:13AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And meanwhile An Post are snoozing. All the virus has done is accelerate the inevitable by about 5 years according to a piece I saw earlier. Even pre-virus the bank and the barber where the only businesses I had need to visit in my town centre and even at that we are talking every 4-6 weeks if that.

We find eating out here poor value for money and paying 40-50% more for clothes and especially shoes in shops vs online a no brainer once sizing is established.

An Post had the Amazon delivery and return buisness. It looks like Amazon are now creating their own in Ireland because of the amount of packages

Dempo1 · 17-10-2020 07:18AM

So here we go again, DPD, Fastways, UBS, whatever your having courier companies annual and exciting breaking news of extra jobs. It's like a broken down record, every year around this time, the same announcements, getting a little tiresome and repetitive, of course, it all goes quite in February each year with not a whisper on all those exciting new jobs suddenly vanishing.

Alf Veedersane · 17-10-2020 07:21AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

The hair clippers I bought in April stopped working. Contacted Amazon and the supplier. They had me a replacement sent out in a week. Probably as long as it would have taken in a physical shop.

Have had no issues online shopping in general since March. Only time I came close was something I ordered wasn't in stock but I was offered something very similar - albeit more expensive- for the same price if I wanted or I could wait a week for the exact one I ordered.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 07:34AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

So here we go again, DPD, Fastways, UBS, whatever your having courier companies annual and exciting breaking news of extra jobs. It's like a broken down record, every year around this time, the same announcements, getting a little tiresome and repetitive, of course, it all goes quite in February each year with not a whisper on all those exciting new jobs suddenly vanishing.

Except if you read the article this is not a Christmas bump.

Dempo1 · 17-10-2020 07:39AM

Kowerski wrote: »

Except if you read the article this is not a Christmas bump.

I have read the article and listened to the MD from one of the firms on morning Ireland yesterday and was immediately reminded of Groundhog day, a not to distance memory of the same announcements, year in, year out at this time of year.

17-10-2020 07:41AM

Kowerski wrote: »

Except if you read the article this is not a Christmas bump.

Its exactly what it is, On their website it states all warehouse positions are a 3 month contract, as for drivers most will be self employed and dropped as soon as volumes fall after Christmas as is the normal for all courier companies.

Akrasia · 17-10-2020 07:43AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

I bought a pair of football boots worth 100 euro lately on amazon, they have ripped after 3 games. I am currently trying to organize sending them back, it will cost 21 euro to post back and then it is up to the seller to see if I am entitled to get a replacement. I would have been way better off buying them in my local sports shop, they actually have them in stock. online shopping is a joke, you are far better off walking into your local shop.

This is a very good point. As online shopping has increased it has become much harder for consumers to verify the quality of the products on sale. Knock offs have always been around, but it used to be obvious, don’t buy the Rolex from the fellah who knocks on your window in the car park, now with online marketplaces and fake reviews and thousands of sellers to choose from, no matter how much research you do, you can still get ripped off

Normal One · 17-10-2020 07:43AM

I've spent about a billion euro buying craft beer online since March. The great thing is that you can filter by country on most sites so I can buy local, as in Irish, and support jobs directly, as many of the online retailers are breweries or in the trade longtime.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 07:46AM

Akrasia wrote: »

This is a very good point. As online shopping has increased it has become much harder for consumers to verify the quality of the products on sale. Knock offs have always been around, but it used to be obvious, don’t buy the Rolex from the fellah who knocks on your window in the car park, now with online marketplaces and fake reviews and thousands of sellers to choose from, no matter how much research you do, you can still get ripped off

If you buy off dodgy websites then you get dodgy items. Buying something expensive off ebay because it is "cheap" will normally end up in tears.

Gruffalux · 17-10-2020 07:50AM

I admit to having increased my online shopping. Shops are simply a hateful way to spend time at the best of times, and now it is doubly hateful. Sure, I have used Bezo's demon spawn Amazon as, let's face it, it is amazingly handy and easy to use, but I have also used a lot of shops in Ireland. I bought products online for myself personally from Irish garden shops, a hardware shop, Irish health food stores, Atlantic aromatherapy, the handmade soap company, an Irish hand made mask maker on Etsy, an Irish clothing maker from whom I bought a fab woolen waistcoat, and I got some skin care products from a couple of Irish based chemists. And the Dr Hauschka supplier in Ireland who are great and always send a little treat. I also source a lot of very varied and specialised items for work and many of these are bought online from efficient Irish companies and then DPD or some other postal company deliver them really promptly. At this stage I know my usual DPD driver's life story. If I had to source all the work stuff in actual shops there would not be one minute left over to do other useful things. Point is that people will buy more online from now on. There is no changing that. So make a truly great and cheerful website, and adjust. Main street shopping centred largely around drink and food and yummy things like that, or individualised craft work or hands on services will not be so bad!

Dempo1 · 17-10-2020 07:50AM

soundman45 wrote: »

Its exactly what it is, On their website it states all warehouse positions are a 3 month contract, as for drivers most will be self employed and dropped as soon as volumes fall after Christmas as is the normal for all courier companies.

100% correct, I'm glad for anyone who'll get the gig but sick and tired at these annual job creation announcements that never state the work is temporary and with lots of strings attached. Spun to sound like another multinational creating 100"s of new full and long term roles.

dodzy · 17-10-2020 07:53AM

Akrasia wrote: »

This is a very good point. As online shopping has increased it has become much harder for consumers to verify the quality of the products on sale. Knock offs have always been around, but it used to be obvious, don’t buy the Rolex from the fellah who knocks on your window in the car park, now with online marketplaces and fake reviews and thousands of sellers to choose from, no matter how much research you do, you can still get ripped off

Amazon are simply the best for customer complaints and returns policy. And returns are typically free - they make it so easy. Don’t know why the football boot was such an issue to resolve.

Darc19 · 17-10-2020 07:53AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

The brick and mortar retail shops aren't helped by upward only rent reviews and ball squeezing landlords.

Long long gone (since 2010) for new leases.

And the standard retail lease is now 10 years, (retailers have rights to a new one if they want) the number of upward only reviews are in the minority.

Furthermore, examinership is relatively easy and can see an outlet being returned to the landlord.

The retailer has the upper hand these days.

Retail will never die, it evolves.

Akrasia · 17-10-2020 07:57AM

Kowerski wrote: »

If you buy off dodgy websites then you get dodgy items. Buying something expensive off ebay because it is "cheap" will normally end up in tears.

Amazon isn’t a ‘dodgy website’ but it is full to the brim with fake reviews, sellers who pretend to be UK based but are actually in China, knock off products making false claims

Then there are the stuff you might not buy very often so you aren’t familiar with the marketplace so can’t tell which retailers are reputable or not, the scammers have websites just as professional looking as the reputable shops, and the scammers have better reviews because they’re fake reviews

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-spot-a-fake-review

The internet is a fertile hunting ground for people with no qualms about how they make a quick fortune, and pop up dodgy selling can be very lucrative

Dempo1 · 17-10-2020 07:57AM

Gruffalux wrote: »

I admit to having increased my online shopping. Shops are simply a hateful way to spend time at the best of times, and now it is doubly hateful. Sure, I have used Bezo's demon spawn Amazon as, let's face it, it is amazingly handy and easy to use, but I have also used a lot of shops in Ireland. I bought products online for myself personally from Irish garden shops, a hardware shop, Irish health food stores, Atlantic aromatherapy, the handmade soap company, an Irish hand made mask maker on Etsy, an Irish clothing maker from whom I bought a fab woolen waistcoat, and I got some skin care products from a couple of Irish based chemists. And the Dr Hauschka supplier in Ireland who are great and always send a little treat. I also source a lot of very varied and specialised items for work and many of these are bought online from efficient Irish companies and then DPD or some other postal company deliver them really promptly. At this stage I know my usual DPD driver's life story. If I had to source all the work stuff in actual shops there would not be one minute left over to do other useful things. Point is that people will buy more online from now on. There is no changing that. So make a truly great and cheerful website, and adjust. Main street shopping centred largely around drink and food and yummy things like that, or individualised craft work or hands on services will not be so bad!

I too have had to go online and not out of choice, I depend alot on gardening type stuff and my main Irish supplier went from closure, to phone and collect and to be honest rarely had the items I needed. Also, I've been astonished at how poor Irish businesses are at online offering.

Most don't even seem to have grasped the concept of replying to emails. Just an example.

I needed heat treated shiplap timber cladding, best option was a place in portarlington. Have dealt with them in the past over the phone etc. Emailed requirements, asked for prices etc in July,. The restrictions meant phone contact near impossible, emailed numerous times and eventually gave up, had the timber delivered from the North and even allowing for sterling and delivery, saved over €200. Just bizzare and this in 2020.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 07:59AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I too have had to go online and not out of choice, I depend alot on gardening type stuff and my main Irish supplier went from closure, to phone and collect and to be honest rarely had the items I needed. Also, I've been astonished at how poor Irish businesses are at online offering.

Most don't even seem to have grasped the concept of replying to emails. Just an example.

I needed heat treated shiplap timber cladding, best option was a place in portarlington. Have dealt with them in the past over the phone etc. Emailed requirements, asked for prices etc in July,. The restrictions meant phone contact near impossible, emailed numerous times and eventually gave up, had the timber delivered from the North and even allowing for sterling and delivery, saved over €200. Just bizzare and this in 2020.

Some Irish companies are terrible. Expect them to go bust

Granadino · 17-10-2020 07:59AM

Online clothes shopping is a minefield. You really need to be able to see stuff in person and try it on.
The amount of crap people buy and have to send back online because it’s too small , not what it looked like in photos etc...

Gruffalux · 17-10-2020 08:04AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I too have had to go online and not out of choice, I depend alot on gardening type stuff and my main Irish supplier went from closure, to phone and collect and to be honest rarely had the items I needed. Also, I've been astonished at how poor Irish businesses are at online offering.

Most don't even seem to have grasped the concept of replying to emails. Just an example.

I needed heat treated shiplap timber cladding, best option was a place in portarlington. Have dealt with them in the past over the phone etc. Emailed requirements, asked for prices etc in July,. The restrictions meant phone contact near impossible, emailed numerous times and eventually gave up, had the timber delivered from the North and even allowing for sterling and delivery, saved over €200. Just bizzare and this in 2020.

I must admit this has not been my experience. As one part of my work I have dealt with a lot of Irish suppliers and they have been excellent. Some are supplying highly specialised products out of their homes, others are massive companies and all have been brilliant. Touch wood it continues.

Dempo1 · 17-10-2020 08:05AM

Kowerski wrote: »

Some Irish companies are terrible. Expect them to go bust

They are, I live near tullamore and not a single local business I emailed over the summer responded to emails, lawn mower shops, garden centres, hardware stores and I'm not talking multinational, these are local business I wanted to and have supported, even local bike shop lost a €2k sale on an ebike.

I was essentially forced to shop online and I'm disgusted at how poor Irish businesses have been with online sales and I might add not just during this pandemic, I've noticed this for years but pre pandemic you could at least visit stores if no email responses etc.

Wibbs · 17-10-2020 08:19AM

Gruffalux wrote: »

I must admit this has not been my experience. As one part of my work I have dealt with a lot of Irish suppliers and they have been excellent. Some are supplying highly specialised products out of their homes, others are massive companies and all have been brilliant. Touch wood it continues.

It can really depend on the area and goods you're looking for. Like you I've found the highly specialised Irish suppliers to be very good, but the less specialised not so much. The other big issue are the prices. There are a lot of "Paddy tax" higher prices going on. I noticed it first during the celtic tiger era when gouging was almost a national sport from large retailers and small and kinda accepted in the "boom", but even when that crashed and burned it was still in play with many because they had gotten used to it and both retailers and customers accepted and expected it.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 08:19AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

They are, I live near tullamore and not a single local business I emailed over the summer responded to emails, lawn mower shops, garden centres, hardware stores and I'm not talking multinational, these are local business I wanted to and have supported, even local bike shop lost a €2k sale on an ebike.

I was essentially forced to shop online and I'm disgusted at how poor Irish businesses have been with online sales and I might add not just during this pandemic, I've noticed this for years but pre pandemic you could at least visit stores if no email responses etc.

In some companies it seems the phone is only available to ring Mammy/Daddy, they never answer. Website are 10 years old and email is still yahoo which is not monitored. If someone had a idea to create a facebook page, again not monitored and our local shop still has information on how they are open during the big snow storm which was how many years ago now.

Sorry but in this day & age if you are not able to run a website/facebook page or answer a phone then no point complaining about delivery companies/amazon

Xtrail14 · 17-10-2020 08:24AM

Everything can be bought online now, I remember a few years back a neighbour down the road had a taxi land in to the yard and a Fastway van same time.
The new wife in the taxi and a new greenhouse in the Fastway van. The neighbour and his new wife gave the following week erecting the greenhouse and they are together since.

Gruffalux · 17-10-2020 08:31AM

Wibbs wrote: »

It can really depend on the area and goods you're looking for. Like you I've found the highly specialised Irish suppliers to be very good, but the less specialised not so much. The other big issue are the prices. There are a lot of "Paddy tax" higher prices going on. I noticed it first during the celtic tiger era when gouging was almost a national sport from large retailers and small and kinda accepted in the "boom", but even when that crashed and burned it was still in play with many because they had gotten used to it and both retailers and customers accepted and expected it.

I must just be very lucky

or really great at logistics

Though it is true my specialised suppliers are the most personable and efficient.
I have had almost no issues with online shopping. Only one disaster and long ago - a bra obviously made in China that could only have fitted a lamp post with strapped on zeppelins. I kept it to marvel at the vision of its maker.

Gruffalux · 17-10-2020 08:34AM

Xtrail14 wrote: »

Everything can be bought online now, I remember a few years back a neighbour down the road had a taxi land in to the yard and a Fastway van same time.
The new wife in the taxi and a new greenhouse in the Fastway van. The neighbour and his new wife gave the following week erecting the greenhouse and they are together since.

Absolutely everything. I had my eyes opened by a pal to the world of online machinery auctions recently where literally anything can be bought and shipped.

whisky_galore · 17-10-2020 08:34AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

So here we go again, DPD, Fastways, UBS, whatever your having courier companies annual and exciting breaking news of extra jobs. It's like a broken down record, every year around this time, the same announcements, getting a little tiresome and repetitive, of course, it all goes quite in February each year with not a whisper on all those exciting new jobs suddenly vanishing.

This.
And all min wage high staff turnover race-to-the-bottom companies but they get their free advertising on de telly firing out a few seasonal crumbs for the plebs.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 08:52AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

This.
And all min wage high staff turnover race-to-the-bottom companies but they get their free advertising on de telly firing out a few seasonal crumbs for the plebs.

So you are complaining because a company in the middle of the virus is hiring people?

So everyone that works in these companies are plebs?

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 17-10-2020 09:48AM

Anyone seen the movie Sorry We Missed You?

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8359816/

rob316 · 17-10-2020 09:56AM

Those are desperate jobs though, Dpd is our partner in our business and the turnover of drivers is huge.

25k for absolutely ball breaking work which has no set hours, you finish when you have done your deliveries and collections for the day.

whisky_galore · 17-10-2020 10:11AM

Kowerski wrote: »

So you are complaining because a company in the middle of the virus is hiring people?

So everyone that works in these companies are plebs?

Read it again. S l o w l y.

It's the nature of the jobs. Borderline slave labour and patting themselves on the back for it.

Cheerful Spring2 · 17-10-2020 10:40AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Read it again. S l o w l y.

It's the nature of the jobs. Borderline slave labour and patting themselves on the back for it.

A job is a choice. You don't have to apply if you're not able for hard work and longer working hours. You should consider your lifestyle and needs before applying for any job.

DPD has a set delivery schedule and the customer needs are foremost in their minds. Some companies don't consider the amount of work some workers do in a day, but that's life.

Delivery of products and driving to places all day is hardly slave labour? Doesn't seem all that difficult to me.

muddypaws · 17-10-2020 02:11PM

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

A job is a choice. You don't have to apply if you're not able for hard work and longer working hours. You should consider your lifestyle and needs before applying for any job.

DPD has a set delivery schedule and the customer needs are foremost in their minds. Some companies don't consider the amount of work some workers do in a day, but that's life.

Delivery of products and driving to places all day is hardly slave labour? Doesn't seem all that difficult to me.

How about the 2-3 hours spent in the depot first thing in the morning unloading the trailer, sorting the round then loading the van? Before you even get on the road driving to places. 6.30am start and from now until Christmas, probably a 6pm finish, 6 days a week. A truck driver wouldn't legally be allowed to do that, but van drivers can?

With the amount of jobs that have been lost because of covid, lots of people have started working as courier drivers rather than staying at home on the PUP. There aren't many options, especially in rural areas but you're right of course, people should consider their lifestyle and needs. Needing to eat and pay a mortgage/rent kinda supersedes everything else.

I work as a courier driver, we've had alot of new drivers in the last few weeks, at least half of them have left after a day or two because they can't handle it.

Rubberchikken · 17-10-2020 02:20PM

Irish businesses especially local small businesses need to sort out their websites and online selling if they actually want customers.
I won't buy local, online or in reality just because..
I've found exactly what I've needed over the past 9 months mostly on Amazon and have no issues whatsoever with it.

It's success is proof that it's needed and 'hating' it and other large businesses is pathetic.

When products aren't available in local businesses, when the phone goes unanswered and when the shopping experience is sadly lacking then people will go online.

Vargulf · 17-10-2020 02:31PM

I've found this is a good website for anyone buying online but who would like to buy from Ireland.

https://justbuyirish.com/

You can use the green button on the bottom right to filter by category.

Kowerski · 17-10-2020 02:32PM

muddypaws wrote: »

How about the 2-3 hours spent in the depot first thing in the morning unloading the trailer, sorting the round then loading the van? Before you even get on the road driving to places. 6.30am start and from now until Christmas, probably a 6pm finish, 6 days a week. A truck driver wouldn't legally be allowed to do that, but van drivers can?

With the amount of jobs that have been lost because of covid, lots of people have started working as courier drivers rather than staying at home on the PUP. There aren't many options, especially in rural areas but you're right of course, people should consider their lifestyle and needs. Needing to eat and pay a mortgage/rent kinda supersedes everything else.

I work as a courier driver, we've had alot of new drivers in the last few weeks, at least half of them have left after a day or two because they can't handle it.

If you are a professional driver then you have to abide by the same rules as truck drivers. It is alarming you claim to be a courier driver but don't abide by the regulations. You and your company are breaking the law.

DPD create 700 jobs , how many lost ??

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