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  • 15-07-2021 8:10am
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    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 149 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Odhran
    Boards.ie Employee


    Hi all - we’re delighted to welcome you to the new Boards platform! Thank you again for your patience over the last while as we directed our attention towards this platform and performed the actual migration. We were finally able to push live late last night / early this morning after a lot of wrangling. This new version will allow us to update the site quicker, add new features, increase uptime and not have to invest all of our dev resources into just keeping the site alive.

    We are very aware that there are some issues with CSS styling, view on touch etc - we have listed out what we know so far below. The great news is that we are fixing that on the fly. We had to focus all of our attention on making things work - while didn’t get it 100% right… we are now able to fix it. The team are already going through css updates to fix the problems. Touch in particular is getting a lot of attention so you will see updates there through the day.

    Many things should look and feel familiar. However, there are some pretty big changes which will result in more stability. There will also be some difference in how this site functions and perhaps some features that you used on the legacy site that did not carry over. We knew that the migration would be tough and expected a lot of teething issues - but we are literally fixing on the fly

    We will need your assistance (and patience again!) as we clear out of some of these issues. A lot of them are simple CSS so you will see impact there quickly. Reply to this thread for reporting issues and we will reply and update here. Please provide as much detail as possible (especially with so many different browsers, operating systems, screen sizes, etc.), including steps to replicate if you can, and images can be very helpful too.

    If you would like to request development of a feature that hasn't carried over (or to suggest possible improvements for an existing feature), we have the Site Development forum for suggestions.

    Thanks

    Odhran

    Current issues being worked on:

    • CSS styling issues on desktop and mobile (mobile in particular is being focussed on first)
    • Some content not migrated over (social groups - soccer etc)
    • Long user names / roles pushing user info panels out
    • Hovering over user name drop down appears broken
    • Posts not numbered
    • ‘Like’ button should be ‘Thanks’. Cannot see who you have thanked
    • Quote function - adding too much space in reply
    • Dropdown menu wrong colour
    • Share links on hover have wrong style
    • Thread heading style needs updating
    • Forum view first post listed as last
    • Breadcrumb not sticky
    • Various font and layout issues
    • User ranking not displaying
    • Thank count not viewing correctly


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,344 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Not an issue, just a small question Odhran - for those of us less technically minded, what's CSS?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    View first unread post is missing...



  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 149 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Odhran
    Boards.ie Employee


    Thanks Zaph - That is the language that we use to style the html page. Basically the design



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Good to see you engaging Odhran, best of luck with the work.

    I see some significant improvements already!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Doomofman


    Will the dark theme be making a comeback at some point?



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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Basically styling for the pages I think.


    Is speed down as an issue, or is boards under a big load this morning. It is very slow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,020 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I'll lift some of the points from my post in the AH thread, and add some more I've noticed since...

    • As with the god-awful "responsive" site, there is so much wasted white space everywhere - and this is the desktop version!
    • The top menu bar is reduced even further and (unless I'm missing something), doesn't pop-up when you hover making it even harder to get around as it opens a new page instead
    • My favourites/Bookmarks now seems to be every thread, rather than the forums themselves?
    • No dark theme.. ye had a week and couldn't put that in? Makes the whole thing very hard to read (see also point 1)
    • The "touch" version has gone from clean and readable to cluttered and cramped (ironic considering the first point)
    • The "user" column to the left of each post varies depending on the length of their name
    • The "Categories" section is even more unhelpful than the old menu system if trying to find a specific forum with the whole lot just lumped together
    • No option to delete a post? I accidentally posted this in another tab but can't delete the entire post?
    • Performance is very slow. Even had a Vanilla "Maintenance" page come up when loading this page
    • Where are all the user/customisation settings?

    Honestly guys... retrograde doesn't begin to describe this. As I said, if the plan is to fix forward now then ye shouldn't have launched in this state, and how these things weren't caught in testing(??) is beyond me.

    I really think the only benefit here is for the devs (as the regular posts from staffers about how hard it was to maintain the old site illustrate), but the users and usability hasn't been considered at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,524 ✭✭✭sioda


    Did we lose our subbed forums list in the move can't locate a list of mine.


    Also for the few of us who were using it is m.boards gone entirely?



  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 149 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Odhran
    Boards.ie Employee


    Both I reckon. But speed should not be an issue - ie server response times should be much faster... we are checking.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,807 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    I can’t seem to find the Help Desk. Has it been pulled across yet? Cheers.



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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    And it seems quoting someone can go a bit crazy. I quoted zaph, and it it posted twice, once before and once after him. :-D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    On mobile, there is a lot of wasted space at the bottom showing users on a particular forum. No need for this IMO.

    Shows thread created date rather than last post date.

    Seems to be a time zone delay also on desktop site shows 1 hour difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭feelings


    Why is the site so bloody slow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,424 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Adding in:


    Unable to follow a forum or post on Desktop.

    Impossible to Navigate the forums, some lead back to homepage others just try and redirect you and then it brings you to threads YOU have started.



  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 149 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Odhran
    Boards.ie Employee


    We are working on UI/UX and more issues.

    You will see daily change as we go over the coming days and weeks.

    We have one developer.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    It is pretty slow on desktop but on mobile it is horribly slow.



  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is the biggest miss of the whole change. Makes it unusable and really needs to be the first thing addressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,020 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    With all respect, one dev (no matter how good he/she is) isn't going to be enough here - especially if addressing what are key functionality issues is going to take days and weeks, and certainly not if the plan is to do this "live", which will only cause more disruption and issues as stuff changes/moves/disappears.

    Why weren't these things caught in testing? What hypercare support do you have from Vanilla to help fix what are core issues with the site?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Ah well I got a good laugh anyway. All this bluster on twitter the last week about how the delay would ensure that everything was perfect, then the first post here is a list of things that are broken and being worked on.


    Can someone tell me where to find my list of followed threads from before? I'm using the mobile site on android chrome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Where's the soccer forum?


    The my threads/forum tab gone is not ideal, can't seem to find anything to route me to my old followed threads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    That! No (obvious) option to cut a quoted post down to the relevant word/phrase/sentence, so the whole post is quoted (and re-quoted when nested). On just about every other forum I visit these days, it's possible to highlight and quote directly from the text of earlier posts, so I was expecting that feature to appear. Instead, we've gone at least a decade in reverse.

    Also for multiposting - really annoying to have the page scroll every time straight to the comment box, forcing me to go looking back up the page to find where I'd got to. Another retrograde step that I don't have to suffer on other forums.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭happyday




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭happyday


    Hope it's ok to ask a few questions here.

    How do I find my followed threads?

    How do I like or thank a post?

    When I search for something why do very old (15 year old) threads come up first? Just trying to find my topics/threads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Clicking a link from a thread now brings up a new landing page before having to reclick to go to the original linked thread. No need for a double click IMO.

    "You are now leaving boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'. Click the link to continue to ...."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    These two issues probably relate to a similar thing:

    • Long user names / roles pushing user info panels out
    • Quote function - adding too much space in reply

    I haven't looked at the CSS, but it would appear that the style for the quote box refuses to overlap with the info panel. If I get a chance later I might see if I can suggest a fix.

    • ‘Like’ button should be ‘Thanks’. Cannot see who you have thanked

    No "Like" button at all on desktop.

    For the "after the bugs" stuff,

    • It would be nice for the desktop version to take up more screen space. Huge chunk of space on the right of the screen going unused.
    • Quick link to "find my posts" somewhere would also be nice.

    I like the editor. Finally a responsive editor that doesn't need you to know BB code.



  • Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭Piehead


    This is a disaster to be honest. Has any thought being given to just reverting back pre update?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,678 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    What happened to subbed forums? Having to manually navigate to each one is just not a goer and puts me off the site. Unless I'm missing something of course. Should say this is on touch site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,018 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Forum bans haven't carried over anyway. Have site bans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    "Find my threads" seems to have disappeared, and been replaced with "My Discussions" which presents two problems:

    1. There doesn't appear to be any (obvious) way to find my own posts. Now, when I know I wrote something somewhere, I can't find it without trawling through hundreds of threads.

    2. I'm getting notifications of new posts on threads that I have no interest in, because of one post on a random thread six years ago, and (again) with no obvious way to turn it off.

    A lot of overlap between "My Bookmarks" and "My Discussions" with - so far - the worst aspects of both and few advantages.

    Also, can't delete bookmarked threads en masse like in the old boards. Now each one has to be opened to be unbookmarked.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I can't find my list of followed forums - just threads. Using Chrome on windows10 pc. Do I have to bookmark each one myself now?

    Also, I can't find the moderator forum.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hoping things improve over the next few days, I find it quite hard to navigate.

    My threads are not bringing me to the last post, and not showing as read.

    did the lol, thanks, agree, things disappear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭mossie


    This is a big miss, I can find my followed threads but not my followed forums.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Bravo on the job guys...you really nailed it.


    Jokes, I give you a 0/10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    No way to search for posts by user (this is a huge miss IMO, I used it all the time)

    Forum summary page shows last posted time as the time the thread was created (but only for some threads)



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Attachments don't seem to have been carried over.



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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You don’t seem to auto subscribe (or “follow”) to a thread if you post in it any more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    No (obvious) option to toggle between auto-formatting and plain text. Just beginning to find this annoying as the software assumes that I want to e.g. insert bullet points or a numbered list, but decides for itself what's what (e.g. in post above, decided that the number 2. should be 1. in a new ordered list).

    And (yet again) seriously retrograde step in removing all our basic formatting options - bold, italic, strikethrough, colour, size ... Sure - they may be there, but WHERE are they???

    Ohhhhhh .... right. Should have guessed - this has become a clickety-click site, so nothing happens unless you click, double click or click-and-click again. And then it seems to be limited to bold and italic. That is really, really, really ancient coding. I hope you got the whole package at 1990s prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    It's like a site from the late 90s. Just give us back the old touch site until you fix the new one. It's terrible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    When you are viewing a user's profile, the option to view threads / comments they have posted is gone.

    Is this not a important feature.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Your followed threads are under "My. Bookmarks"


    To find my bookmarks you have to scroll to the bottom of the page and it's under quick (lol) links.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭pah


    This is pretty bad. Why do I need to see a truncated list of 3800 users at the bottom of my page. I can't find my followed threads anywhere. What's the point of this?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Dark mode definetly needed for those with vision impairements /dsylexia/when tired at night and a good few boards members are getting older if they dont have sight issues they will soon!

    The light grey text versus blue very hard to deferiatate between. So no idea if you have posted a working link.

    The actual font not too bad at all.

    Yes please reinstate thankyou option ..nice to be able to acknowledge a post in that way.

    Somebody asked what is

    wooh just expected a link when I posted that not an image



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Also is the wall of text list of active users at the bootom of the page on mobile needed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Why do I need to see a list of over 3000 users while scrolling on mobile? It takes over most of the page depending on what thread I'm looking at (if I can find the one I want, that is).


    Is there a need for this 'Social Activity Feed' with Users changing their profile photos that I really don't care for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,020 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    To be honest, I'd say no myself as all it seems to be used for is some posters dragging up posts someone made months or years ago in a different context to try and score points against them now.

    Something we could do without IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,136 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    There doesn't seem to be the ability to use spoiler tags



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 17,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    The Groups seem to be broken at present and no discussions have carried over, even though it says 22k discussions beside the soccer forum.

    Bookmarked discussions from groups also do not show in the MyThreads tab, would it be possible to add that

    Moderator: Forum Games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    The SEO is messed up from Google. When I click any results, it brings me to the homepage as opposed to the thread:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    +1, was about to say the same myself. It always made me feel uncomfortable to see someone trundle through a user's old posts in an attempt to find something to hang them with. I'd be happy if this didn't come back.

    Regarding the new design, I'll hold judgement until the issues are ironed out. I've read several "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" comments but the old site was very much broken so I agree something had to be done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I often use it on my own profile also. I think it's an important feature. It's literally on every discussion site (reddit?), and is an expected feature. IMO.



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