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Next Gardai Recruitment (And Counter Terrorism Unit Question)

  • 27-07-2016 06:22PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    First time posting in this area, usually stick to other areas of Boards. Anyways I was recently talking to a mate of mine who applied for the Gardai back in January when the latest recruitment was going on. My question is when is the next one?
    I currently live in England and I've literally just finished my Masters. I've been trying to get into some sort of Counter Terrorism role back home but I'm seriously struggling to find information on this. My mate suggested joining the Gardai and hoping they'll 'fast-track' me through to get me into a role I'm looking for.

    Can anyone provide any information on either?

    Thanks :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 JimmyBreen


    Hey Target,

    Made an account to reply.

    I'm in a similar situation (finished masters in the UK in a specialist subject related to what you're looking at) but was lucky enough to apply for this campaign and will hopefully starting in the next month or so.

    Unfortunately, they're pretty strict with the need to go through the full probationary period and all that jazz before you can even apply for specialist positions. I don't mind waiting it out, and hopefully my academic background will stand to me, but I can understand why others wouldn't be so patient.

    Your best bet for fast-tracking is the "Direct to Inspector" program the English and Welsh police forces run. It's uber competitive and you need at least three years residency in the UK before you can apply (which is what made me apply for the Garda rather than waiting for that) but if you don't mind the wait (or are already passed that) then you can specialise within three years with them!

    I looked into it all in great detail before deciding to apply in at home in Ireland, so if you have any questions ask away!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭T4RGET


    Thanks for the reply :) appreciate you going through the trouble of registering just to reply.
    Where in the UK did you study if you don't mind me asking?
    I just handed my thesis in yesterday, tomorrow is the deadline so I am literally just finishing mine.
    At the moment I'm really looking to get home like. I find it a shame that Ireland is so backwards and to be frank, narrow-minded. I was given a rough estimate between 8 to 13 years to get into Ballistics, which is what my Masters is in and anywhere from 4 to 6 years for a CT role.
    I honestly have no issue with working my way up, that's the name of the game and I'm not looking for short cuts but I feel that Ireland, including the Gardai, don't take education into consideration.
    I met with someone from the technical bureau when I was home last about getting into a ballistics or even an intelligence role and he was completely baffled by how I found information on MI5 here. I just explained to him that even though the organisation is secretive they advertise vacancies openly and even have a graduate scheme, no such opportunities in Ireland.

    I've gotten word of a firearms examiner here in England which I'm tempted to apply for but I'd really rather go home.
    Have you any idea when the next recruitment is and how long it would take to get to a desired role? two or three years doesn't bother me but I didn't do an extra level of education to wait 8 years.

    Thanks :)

    Cillian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 JimmyBreen


    No bother!

    I don't mind you asking and I'd usually have no problem saying but I'd rather not be too specific as I'm wary of giving out too much info with the recruitment process still underway (I see a lot of people posting OOM numbers and the like on here and I really don't think it's a good idea). It was a top 5 Uni in the UK and the course was specifically terrorism and CT related, with a previous masters in a related discipline.

    You're right about the lack of opportunities for any sort of direct placement or specialization in Ireland. There are so many schemes in the UK that take relevant education into account, although not without some resentment from within the forces themselves, apparently. The best we have here is the fact that you start higher on the pay scale if you've got a degree, whether it's in the study of terrorism or criminology or nutrition is irrelevant.

    Theoretically, it would take a minimum of three to three-and-a-half years from the start of training in Templemore to have the opportunity to be moved from a generic Garda position into a specialist one. For me, that's not too bad, given the required three years of residency in the UK in order to apply for Direct to Inspector schemes, which are then three year programs. MI5 and 6 are off limits to me personally as they require British citizenship and 10 years of residency, as far as I remember.

    Given the way things in Europe have been developing over the past couple years, the need for people with a background in CT in the Gardai may speed things up in terms of new recruits with that experience getting into those positions, but there's no guarantee of course. It's a depressing thought but I suppose we're somewhat lucky in the sense that we have skills (academically, at least) in an area which seems to be only becoming more and more relevant :(

    As for the next recruitment drive, I've no idea. A year on from the previous one, maybe? So January?

    I'd say if you want to come home and do good work here, then it's worth the wait. You'd also have to be sure that you'd be content with ordinary uniformed Garda work for at least three years, potentially more. Again, for me this is not a big deal because I do a lot of community outreach stuff and I love the work. That said, who knows how things will develop? The Garda website does specify that "ordinarily" new recruits have to spend three years in normal duty before moving in to a specialist area, which seems to leave some scope for progression in fewer than three years for exceptional candidates and/or exceptional circumstances.

    And congrats on handing in the dissertation. It's a ****ing relief, I know :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Elliot192


    I don't know if it's relevant to either of you but the European Defence Agency are looking for people. It's advertised on publicjobs.ie. Think there was a CT post in Brussels recently, too. Plus you can use the EURES programme to fund your trip over for an interview/relocating. Might be worth having a look at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭T4RGET


    Elliot192 wrote: »
    I don't know if it's relevant to either of you but the European Defence Agency are looking for people. It's advertised on publicjobs.ie. Think there was a CT post in Brussels recently, too. Plus you can use the EURES programme to fund your trip over for an interview/relocating. Might be worth having a look at?

    Hi mate thanks for the reply. I'll check it out when I get a decent Internet connection


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭T4RGET


    @JimmyBreen

    That's fair enough. I won't ask anymore

    Well 3 years isn't a bad thing for me either. It is somewhat of a kick for me personally given the amount of work I've done to try get all this education and degrees but suppose that's the way this has to be.

    Well Mi5 is definitely out for me too, I've only been here a year so waiting for my to become eligible for that would take too long.
    I'll keep an eye out for the next recruitment.
    I guess it's a good thing that Ireland doesn't need a massive CT force. Sure it may mean there's less jobs but the reason for that has to be a good thing, right :)
    What specialisation in the gardai are you looking to get into if you don't mind me asking?

    Thanks for the information again. Good luck with the rest if the process mate :)
    May see you around


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