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The aftermath of my street fight against three

  • 02-09-2016 05:44PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45


    When out one night I made a trip on my own out of the bar, to the ATM down the street. (I'm a guy, 26) There were these 3 fellas of about 17/18 years old, in tracksuits walking from the opposite direction. I didn't notice them until they were quite near. I didn't really make much of an effort to move out of their way, and as I walked through the middle of them, the fella trailing behind gave me a light slap on the arm, like as if to say 'know your place'. I turned around to a very defiant thug-like expression on his face. He was probably expecting me to, at worst, push him or something.

    But instead I landed him a decent punch square in the face. He starting swinging his arms fast around in circles, in a threatening way. I didn't know whether to laugh, or feel threatened. It looked sort of like a bluff to make himself look intimidating, as was most likely quite surprised. At this point in time I could of got out of there, as I don't think his friends had even seen what happened. I might of even had to sort of back down, but 'so what' you'd think.

    Well I didn't view it that way at the time. Instead I had to fight. I was important for me not to back down, especially seeing as they were younger. Initially it seemed as if the other two were calling him back, as if they were telling him to cop on. A second one of them came back, and I was throwing punches at him now. I knew that the last fella to walk back would be the best fighter. By the time all three of them came in on me, I was over-powered and backed away. I still didn't feel in great danger even though I was outnumbered. I guess I wanted to see what would happen. As they were now sort of separated, I targeted in heavily on one guy. The dominant guy then took charge. We traded some very hard punches, but it seemed as if we blocked each others very well.

    Shortly after this all three were around me. I remember nothing happened for a whole second or two, while everybody held that boxing stance. I remember thinking, "they're definitely threatened by me". They then all stared boxing, and I was completely over-powered. I began backing away. I knew I wouldn't fall down, but just because I didn't fall down, didn't mean that I didn't take a good beating. It was only when the final few punches were thrown that I actually thought "okay that's it, I might have a few bruises on my face tomorrow". I then felt a hand grab me by the arm from behind, and pull me aside. It was the security guard of a fast food joint.

    All in all, it was stupid of me, and not a very good memory. This made me realise the many foibles in my character. And perhaps something like this was inevitable. But I'd rather get my ass kicked by three nerds my own age then by three younger.

    What annoys me about this is that, throughout the whole event, I didn't once speak, or try use my authority against them. Once I realised I was going to lose, I could have yelled out "enough" and made it seem like they were randomly attacking a defenceless person. It's well known that only the scum of the Earth are the ones that fight on the street. If it were someone that were actually worth competing with, or someone I despised, it'd have been different. But these guys, I had absolutely nothing in common with. You might say that that sort are looking for a fight anyway, but I bet they didn't even know what to make of it. I many ways, it takes a man not to fight.

    I guess I've a good few memories of times I where throwing a punch might have been effective, as opposed to wasting my breathe exchanging insults. However those memories are now quite old. I can't think of many examples in recent years of where throwing a punch would be the best thing to do. Once you get to a certain age, it just looks immature.

    I initially thought there's no point in getting the gardia involved, as I threw the first punch. I took a few blows to my left ear. Although I'd none of the usual symptoms, other than pain, I had a bit of a bad feeling about it. The doc said all was good and it's healed up since. But after noticing a light ringing in that ear (12 days later), I'm just beginning to rethink things. It's something I just don't want to deal with right now, but if I'm to go to the guards I'd want to act fast. They'd never see that I threw the first punch as the footage outside the fast food store would only show me being attacked. But could they even identify them anyway? Would the guards love an excuse to convict these thugs? On the other hand, it would bring up a few other issues that I'd have to address that I'd be quite ashamed of.

    I've gained absolutely nothing from this, only a bad memory that'll probably make me less likely to fight should I ever actually need to. If ever the time does come to fight, there probably won't be anywhere near as much danger anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    When out one night I made a trip on my own out of the bar, to the ATM down the street. (I'm a guy) There were these 3 fellas of about 17/18 years old, in tracksuits walking from the opposite direction. I didn't notice them until they were quite near. I didn't really make much of an effort to move out of their way, and as I walked through the middle of them, the fella trailing behind gave me a light slap on the arm, like as if to say 'know your place'. I turned around to a very defiant thug-like expression on his face. He was probably expecting me to, at worst, push him or something.

    But instead I landed him a decent punch square in the face. He starting swinging his arms fast around in circles, in a threatening way. I didn't know whether to laugh, or feel threatened. It looked sort of like a bluff to make himself look intimidating, as was most likely quite surprised. At this point in time I could of got out of there, as I don't think his friends had even seen what happened. I might of even had to sort of back down, but 'so what' you'd think.

    Well I didn't view it that way at the time. Instead I had to fight. I was important for me not to back down, especially seeing as they were younger. Initially it seemed as if the other two were calling him back, as if they were telling him to cop on. A second one of them came back, and I was throwing punches at him now. I knew that the last fella to walk back would be the best fighter. By the time all three of them came in on me, I was over-powered and backed away. I still didn't feel in great danger even though I was outnumbered. I guess I wanted to see what would happen. As they were now sort of separated, I targeted in heavily on one guy. The dominant guy then took charge. We traded some very hard punches, but it seemed as if we blocked each others very well.

    Shortly after this all three were around me. I remember nothing happened for a whole second or two, while everybody held that boxing stance. I remember thinking, "they're definitely threatened by me". They then all stared boxing, and I was completely over-powered. I began backing away. I knew I wouldn't fall down, but just because I didn't fall down, didn't mean that I didn't take a good beating. It was only when the final few punches were thrown that I actually thought "okay that's it, I might have a few bruises on my face tomorrow". I then felt a hand grab me by the arm from behind, and pull me aside. It was the security guard of a fast food joint.

    I'm certain that the only one who got the shiner on his face, was when the very first punch was thrown. It's amazing how little punching can do once people are on guard. But all in all, it was stupid of me, and not a very good memory. This made me realise the many foibles in my character. And perhaps something like this was inevitable. But I'd rather get my ass kicked by three nerds my own age then by three younger.

    What annoys me about this is that, throughout the whole event, I didn't once speak, or try use my authority against them. Once I realised I was going to lose, I could have yelled out "enough" and made it seem like they were randomly attacking a defenceless person. It's well known that only the scum of the Earth are the ones that fight on the street. If it were someone that were actually worth competing with, or someone I despised, it'd have been different. But these guys, I had absolutely nothing in common with. You might say that that sort are looking for a fight anyway, but I bet they didn't even know what to make of it. I many ways, it takes a man not to fight.

    I guess I've a good few memories of times I where throwing a punch might have been effective, as opposed to wasting my breathe exchanging insults. However those memories are now quite old. I can't think of many examples in recent years of where throwing a punch would be the best thing to do. Once you get to a certain age, it just looks immature.

    I initially thought there's no point in getting the gardia involved, as I threw the first punch. I took a few blows to my left ear. Although I'd none of the usual symptoms, other than pain, I had a bit of a bad feeling about it. The doc said all was good and it's healed up since. But after noticing a light ringing in that ear (12 days later), I'm just beginning to rethink things. It's something I just don't want to deal with right now, but if I'm to go to the guards I'd want to act fast. They'd never see that I threw the first punch as the footage outside the fast food store would only show me being attacked. But could they even identify them anyway? Would the guards love an excuse to convict these thugs? On the other hand, it would bring up a few other issues that I'd have to address that I'd be quite ashamed of.

    I've gained absolutely nothing from this, only a bad memory that'll probably make me less likely to fight should I ever actually need to. If ever the time does come to fight, there probably won't be anywhere near the danger anyway.

    Im sorry but wtf are you looking for here?

    You walked through a group of kids on a street and when they turned to see what was going on you punched one of them in the face?

    Your story comes across as some full of himself ass who is telling his mates to try and score some bravo points in the pub.

    You attacked a group of kids,go to the police tell them you instigated a fight with 3 lads and hopefully they reported you and you can pay for any medical bills they require.

    Then contact a counsellor to try and deal with whatever anger issues you have relating to younger people and why you felt then need to start a fight


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    Im sorry but wtf are you looking for here?

    You walked through a group of kids on a street and when they turned to see what was going om your punched one of them in the face?

    Your story comes across as som full of himself ass who is telling his mates to try and score some bravo points.

    You attacked a group of kids,go to the police tell them you instigated a fight with 3 lads and hopefully they reportef you and you can pay for any medical bills they require.

    Then contact a counsellor to try and deal with whatever agner issues you have relating to younger people and why you felt then need to start a fight
    Well all that's a bit of a euphemism in the opposite direction. Just because I was the provocateur doesn't mean that they weren't knackers who were up to no good walking around the city at that hour of the night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    So you were looking for a fight and now that you lost you are trying to find another way to get back to them? Be glad that nothing but your pride took serious beating. And grow up.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,309 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    It's well known that only the scum of the Earth are the ones that fight on the street.

    You threw the first punch. At someone possibly 10 years younger than you, and possibly in school. Big man. I'm not sure I believe it anyway. Sounds like a badly written essay on "My Saturday night".

    You were a dick that night. Don't be a bigger dick by goinh to the guards claiming to have been set upon. Why do you think CCTV won't show you throwing the first punch? Unlikely that there's only one camera in the area.

    Although, the guards might already be looking for you for assaulting a minor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Well all that's a bit of a euphemism in the opposite direction. Just because I was the provocateur doesn't mean that they weren't knackers who were up to no good walking around the city at that hour of the night.

    Like your good self then?


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,426 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    What has any of this got to do with relationships?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭vandriver


    What has any of this got to do with relationships?
    His relationship with reality?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    Big man. I'm not sure I believe it anyway.
    So you're saying they attacked me for no reason?
    Although, the guards might already be looking for you for assaulting a minor.
    So I should be grateful that they're not. They wouldn't be the sort to report it. They're knackers, remember. They're not likely to report it considering they won, and considering they were wanna be gangsters out looking for trouble anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    So you're saying they attacked me for no reason?
    So I should be grateful that they're not.

    .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    meeeeh wrote: »
    So you were looking for a fight and now that you lost you are trying to find another way to get back to them? Be glad that nothing but your pride took serious beating. And grow up.
    When I was 18, I wouldn't of dare slapped any stranger on the arm for merely walking on the same ground as me.

    They're probably more confident after this event, and likely more inclined to provoke other strangers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    So you're saying they attacked me for no reason?
    So I should be grateful that they're not. They wouldn't be the sort to report it. They're knackers, remember. They're not likely to report it considering they won, and considering they were wanna be gangsters out looking for trouble anyway!


    No you attacked them for no reason,your barged through people on a path because you didnt like how they looked(this crap of him slapping you as you went through them is completely justified of true but i think it was just the clash as you went through them) and when one turned around to confront (as they have every right) you were ready to throw a dig without a word said.

    You should be grateful the police arent looking for you,an adult starting a fight with a group of teenagers while you were probably drunk because you judged them on how they were dressed,calling them knackers without knowing who they actually are is all the hallmarks of a bully.

    What if they were a bunch of actors coming from a play they were in???

    Good luck and hopefully you get the help you need


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    No you attacked them for no reason,your barged through people on a path because you didnt like how they looked(this crap of him slapping you as you went through them is completely justified of true but i think it was just the clash as you went through them) and when one turned around to confront (as they have every right) you were ready to throw a dig without a word said.

    You should be grateful the police arent looking for you,an adult starting a fight with a group of teenagers while you were probably drunk because you judged them on how they were dressed is all the hallmarks of a bully.

    Good luck and hopefully you get the help you need
    They were walking three a breast, and I didn't see them UNtil the last moment. I actually think I said excuse me as I passed through. Don't pretend you know exactly how it happened. I merely said they were wearing tracksuit pants to try give you a sense of what sort they were. Sorry I can't be more politically correct then saying knackers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    They were walking three a breast, and I didn't see them UNtil the last moment. I actually think I said excuse as I passed through. Don't pretend you know exactly how it happened. I merely said they were wearing tracksuit pants to try give you a sense of what sort they were. Sorry I can't be more politically correct then saying knackers!

    i edited my post maybe have a look,i dont think this even actually happened but its not my place to say,iv thrown my 2 cents in,good luck


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    i dont think this even actually happened
    Because I'm a boardsie, I know.
    and when one turned around to confront (as they have every right)
    You could also say that it's not wise of them to confront strangers over such trivia. It seems you feel pretty strongly about this too. Get over the idea of me judging them because of their tracksuits. The only judging now, is from you. I didn't punch until provoked.

    Basically I predicted the inevitable. It was a case of punch him, or leave it go. I'm obviously not going to reason with such a class of people. Would you have expected him to play fare? What do you think would of happened? Really? Would we have reached an amicable agreement. If I was smarter about the whole thing (once 1st punch thrown) I would've came out fine and the kid mightn't have been so cocky in future.

    I'll also clarify a number of assumptions you've made - I didn't call them knackers at the time obviously. I wasn't drunk. If I was, I would've probably come out worse.

    But all said, I shouldn't have thrown the punch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    What has any of this got to do with relationships?
    Personal issues


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Personal issues

    That's a different forum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    OP - don't mind the pricks on here ganging up on you.
    Fair play to you. Shame your first punch didn't flatten the first scumbag and take him out of it.

    The ****e bags complaining to you here would be the first ones to piss their pants and then come on here whining.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 45 barbarasummers


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    OP - don't mind the pricks on here ganging up on you.
    Fair play to you. Shame your first punch didn't flatten the first scumbag and take him out of it.

    The ****e bags complaining to you here would be the first ones to piss their pants and then come on here whining.
    Cheers,

    It's guys like me who ultimately, could well be paying their dole.

    I just hope the tinnitus is temporary. I can get over taking a beating, just as long as I don't have a permanent reminder of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Basically I predicted the inevitable. It was a case of punch him, or leave it go.

    You could have just walked away. It wasn't inevitable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    You're real mad OP. You'd probably bash them if it was a proper straightener. You're a big man and nobody can ever take away your manliness. And so brave too.

    Is that what you're looking for here? I genuinely don't know what you want to hear? You lost a fight you started with some children like. My advice, since that's the nature of this forum, is not to ever tell anyone about this and just forget it happened. It's not a high point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    How does wearing tracksuit pants explain what sort they were?
    How do you know they were not walking home from training? Or from a casual night at a friends house?

    You walked into a group of people. You collided with one of them, and before even saying anything, you threw a punch at one of them.

    You have zero idea who they are and why they were there.

    You jumped to conclusions and took a good few punches for it. you got what you deserve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭fatherted1969


    Only regrettable thing in all this is the bouncer saving you from something you deserved


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    He only slapped you on the arm. I don't know why you got into a fight over something so stupid. I'm one to stand up for myself, but what you did was just dumb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭celligraphy


    So because they were wearing tracksuits you automatically decided they were knackers and decided to punch one of them ? Don't think you 'll get any good advice here op maybe at best go get counselling so you can sort out your anger issues / esteem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Mod Note
    Sorry OP but I fail to see how your post is a Personal Issue beyond an admission of guilt by you to common assault.

    If you are looking for specific advice but haven't gotten to that point yet then please PM the mod team listed at the bottom of this forum with the advice you are looking for and a request to reopen this thread and we'll consider it. As it stand though this thread isn't something we can currently address so I'm closing it.

    (Please ensure you PM the full listing of mods as we all dip in and out at different times.)


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