Mower

Peter90 · 29-11-2016 2:32pm #1

Recently bought extra land, so in total will have 60 acres meadow, wondering what type of mower to buy, can buy a new rotary reasonable but wondering is it worth it, would be looking a second hand disc cant afford new disc at the min, have a 60hp tractor (zetor6211) and a 80 hp tractor (mf290), any advice what to buy?

kay 9 · 29-11-2016 5:07pm

7ft drum mower would be ok for 60 acres, much handier buy new. Never liked buying s/h mowers. What's your budget op and the crew should be able advise more accurately. There's a lot of disc mowers that ain't worth a buck. Kuhn etc would be viable options (anything with a comer bed)

Sam Kade · 29-11-2016 5:40pm

Yeah buy new you'd pay half the price for a secondhand and it could turn out a heap of rubbish. I bought a budget mower last year 9' it spends more time in for repair than mowing.

kerry cow · 29-11-2016 6:03pm

Stay away from machinery .It sore work and less profit
Leave it to the contractor .They are not rich are they ?? .

Buford T. Justice XIX · 29-11-2016 6:04pm

Sam Kade wrote: »

Yeah buy new you'd pay half the price for a secondhand and it could turn out a heap of rubbish. I bought a budget mower last year 9' it spends more time in for repair than mowing.

I bought a second hand Claas 2650 mower last year, 9' cut, for just over 5k. No problems with her at all but I do buy a few bits from the dealer every year/second year.

But the danger is that any mower could be on its last legs when it's sold so you would want to know the seller fairly well.

OP, would you be able to get a loan over 2-3 years for a new one or look into some of the finance deals by the different companies?

Who2 · 29-11-2016 7:34pm

Forget the mower. Get a contractor in. Most lads baling don't want baking after eight foots let alone seven footers. By the time it's all weighed up it's too much messing and the bills will shock you. I lost a seal on one of the gearboxes on my own and it's going to cost over a grand to change the box now because I ripped the teeth.

mikefoxo · 29-11-2016 9:42pm

How many extra acres will you be cutting on last year? If it's only 5 or 10 you might be as well off with the mower you have. I suppose if you needed to upgrade a drum mower would be the best solution - just don't buy a SIP. Width-wise, you could cut it, let it dry, row it up into a big fluffy swath, dry a bit more then bale.

As regards contractors, you're sort of putting all your eggs into one basket. Everyone wants them for a couple of months in the year, they're going hell for leather, breakdowns and delays are inevitable

Peter90 · 30-11-2016 10:42am

Normally cut 30 acres bought a second farm, made 2000 square bales this year, good return from 15 acres great land to dry hay, don't want to be waiting on contractors when trying to get hay, only had a 5ft drum mower last year wasn't mine borrowed for the summer worked fine just wondering what to go for when investing, would go second hand disc only very hard to know what to buy, i'd imagine hard to get a good one, plan is make as much hay as possible, if have to make silage so be it, wouldn't be one bit worried whether or not the contractor would like to bale after ive cut, also want to buy a square baler, again same problem what to buy, gave a lad €1000 this year wouldnt be long saving the price of a decent second hand one at that rate

White Clover · 30-11-2016 11:40am

Peter90 wrote: »

Normally cut 30 acres bought a second farm, made 2000 square bales this year, good return from 15 acres great land to dry hay, don't want to be waiting on contractors when trying to get hay, only had a 5ft drum mower last year wasn't mine borrowed for the summer worked fine just wondering what to go for when investing, would go second hand disc only very hard to know what to buy, i'd imagine hard to get a good one, plan is make as much hay as possible, if have to make silage so be it, wouldn't be one bit worried whether or not the contractor would like to bale after ive cut, also want to buy a square baler, again same problem what to buy, gave a lad €1000 this year wouldnt be long saving the price of a decent second hand one at that rate

A 7ft disc mower would suit you. Get one of the mainstream brands. There is often nice ones on done deal that are very genuine looking.
As for a baler, welger 61 or 63 and New Holland 376 would be my preferences.

Peter90 · 30-11-2016 12:05pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/balers-for-sale/welger-square-baler/13786723

https://www.donedeal.ie/balers-for-sale/new-holland-376-square-baler-reduced/10625948

thats donedeals options, was quoted €5400 for new MARANGON DISC MOWER, and €2800 for a new holland 376 or €3600 with a guarantee of a dealer

Sam Kade · 05-12-2016 4:56pm

White Clover wrote: »

A 7ft disc mower would suit you. Get one of the mainstream brands. There is often nice ones on done deal that are very genuine looking.
As for a baler, welger 61 or 63 and New Holland 376 would be my preferences.

The 377 is a far superior baler to the 376.

Sam Kade · 05-12-2016 5:04pm

Peter90 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/balers-for-sale/welger-square-baler/13786723

https://www.donedeal.ie/balers-for-sale/new-holland-376-square-baler-reduced/10625948

thats donedeals options, was quoted €5400 for new MARANGON DISC MOWER, and €2800 for a new holland 376 or €3600 with a guarantee of a dealer

Marangon aren't great, very soft metal in them, you'd want very level ground for it.

White Clover · 05-12-2016 5:15pm

Sam Kade wrote: »

The 377 is a far superior baler to the 376.

What's the difference between the 2 Sam? We had a 376 and twas a great baler, every bit as good as a welger 61 we thought.

cjpm · 05-12-2016 10:04pm

Whats the difference between a

PZ 165,

https://www.donedeal.ie/mowers-for-sale/pz-165-drum-mower/13351113

Fransguard 165

https://www.donedeal.ie/mowers-for-sale/fransguard-fm-165-rotary/13411280

and ZTR 165

https://www.donedeal.ie/mowers-for-sale/ztr-165-drum-mower-reduction/13192342

White Clover · 05-12-2016 10:07pm

cjpm wrote: »

Whats the difference between a

PZ 165,

https://www.donedeal.ie/mowers-for-sale/pz-165-drum-mower/13351113

Fransguard 165

https://www.donedeal.ie/mowers-for-sale/fransguard-fm-165-rotary/13411280

and ZTR 165

https://www.donedeal.ie/mowers-for-sale/ztr-165-drum-mower-reduction/13192342

The PZ would be of superior quality to the other 2. Made from top quality steel and well engineered.

cjpm · 05-12-2016 10:12pm

White Clover wrote: »

The PZ would be of superior quality to the other 2. Made from top quality steel and well engineered.

Are they identical copies except made with poorer quality stuff?

sea12 · 05-12-2016 10:16pm

Peter90 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/balers-for-sale/welger-square-baler/13786723

https://www.donedeal.ie/balers-for-sale/new-holland-376-square-baler-reduced/10625948

thats donedeals options, was quoted €5400 for new MARANGON DISC MOWER, and €2800 for a new holland 376 or €3600 with a guarantee of a dealer

Seems dear for that baler for how it looks condition wise.

White Clover · 05-12-2016 10:21pm

cjpm wrote: »

Are they identical copies except made with poorer quality stuff?

No the PZ wouldn't be identical to the other 2. It's a few years since we ran a drum mower so wouldn't be sure if any of the other makes had inter changeable parts.

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