who are you surprised by coming out?

Mountainsandh · 19-03-2017 03:28AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It surprises me when anyone 'comes out' and has done since about 2000 because who the **** cares?

True. But for the people concerned it must be important. For friends and family I know it seemed to be important anyway. We didn't really care, but they did (so we kinda cared then because we want them to be happy of course).

OP mind your words, you don't seem to intend to, but you're putting it all wrong.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-03-2017 03:29AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was thinking more like the late 1980s...but the same "who cares" sentiment applies...

You're older than me :pac:

Joking aside I only moved here in 2001 so I can't really speak to Ireland but I felt there was still a stigma to it in the 90s in the UK. There was something in the way it was portrayed on TV. If it was a drama about a high ranking police officer or politician it was a secret to be kept. I suppose it was still an issue for the military then (IIRC) and of course it wasn't long after the height of the AIDS panic.

JackTaylorFan · 19-03-2017 03:31AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

OP mind your words, you don't seem to intend to, but you're putting it all wrong.

Ah Bless.

Mountainsandh · 19-03-2017 03:33AM

JackTaylorFan wrote: »

Ah Bless.

What ? is there a joke I'm not getting ?

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-03-2017 03:34AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

True. But for the people concerned it must be important. For friends and family I know it seemed to be important anyway. We didn't really care, but they did (so we kinda cared then because we want them to be happy of course).

OP mind your words, you don't seem to intend to, but you're putting it all wrong.

I understand where, privately it might be a big deal, even today in a conservative family. However I don't really understand why people feel the need to announce what they like doing with their genitalia. To me it makes no odds what sexual orientation a sports person/TV presenter etc. is. It certainly makes no difference to me if someone I've met through work or socially is bi/gay/straight/asexual or whatever.

If a long term friend 'came out' then perhaps it would mean something, but only that it was unfortunate that they didn't feel they could be who they were until now.

RabbleRouser2k · 19-03-2017 03:35AM

George Michael. Genuinely.

Didn't learn of Rock Hudson being gay for ages-but keep in mind, it was in the 00s when I found out.

Portia De Rossi-many a heterosexual male (myself included) was like 'seriously?-aw mannnn'. As if we had a chance there, even if she was straight.

Matt Bomer.

Neil Patrick HArris.

Kate McKinnon (see Portia De Rossi).

Allegedley-SHerman HElmsley. This one is still disputed.

MAddie Blaustein-Voice of Meowth.

RobertKK · 19-03-2017 03:37AM

All those gay porn stars who come out as not being gay...

JackTaylorFan · 19-03-2017 03:45AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

What ? is there a joke I'm not getting ?

No, no joke. It's just, you remind me of my own dear mother, who only likes to see the good in people, no matter how big a gobahite they are

Mountainsandh · 19-03-2017 03:46AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

I understand where, privately it might be a big deal, even today in a conservative family. However I don't really understand why people feel the need to announce what they like doing with their genitalia. To me it makes no odds what sexual orientation a sports person/TV presenter etc. is. It certainly makes no difference to me if someone I've met through work or socially is bi/gay/straight/asexual or whatever.

If a long term friend 'came out' then perhaps it would mean something, but only that it was unfortunate that they didn't feel they could be who they were until now.

I don't think being gay is limited to what you do with your genitalia tbh. That's not a very nice way to put it either.

I don't know why the people I know who "came out" had to sort of make it official like that, but it was important to them. I don't think they weren't who they were either before they came out ?

Maybe they just would have held back on introducing a boy/girl friend pre-coming out, but it seems the only thing.

B.A._Baracus · 19-03-2017 03:48AM

RobertKK wrote: »

All those gay porn stars who come out as not being gay...

That reminds me of the Channel 4 documentary they did a while back :pac: (Maybe a year or two ago?)

Anyways, for those who never watched it, Channel 4 brought over a few brits to California. All of them love porn and the point was to show them the truth about the industry. One of which was a gay lad who practically loved this very famous Gay Porn Star.

So the gay lad meets the gay porn star. But yet the "gay porn star" isn't actually gay... he's straight

He goes on to say that they will film him with another man, he'd be fully erect but yet when it came down to any touching, oral or sex another gay porn star (Stunt-cock :pac: ) would step in and take his place. They simply film a few reaction shots and edit them in.

you should have seen the gay brit guy's face lol. It just dropped.

19-03-2017 03:52AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Matt Bomer.

Kate McKinnon

Allegedley-SHerman HElmsley. This one is still disputed.

MAddie Blaustein-Voice of Meowth.

I'm more concerned about who are they at all, rather than their sexuality once I find out who they are at all...

Mountainsandh · 19-03-2017 03:57AM

JackTaylorFan wrote: »

No, no joke. It's just, you remind me of my own dear mother, who only likes to see the good in people, no matter how big a gobahite they are

Yeah. I guess I'm turning into a bit of an Irish Mammy alright.

I didn't want to be insulting to OP, but he/she comes across as a harmless big eejit who'll put their foot in it, like.

yerwanthere123 · 19-03-2017 03:57AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It surprises me when anyone 'comes out' and has done since about 2000 because who the **** cares?

Coming out is still a big deal for a lot of people. It's great that you are so accepting of gay people, but unfortunately not everyone, even in 2017, feels the same way. Gay men and women have only enjoyed equality in Ireland for less than two years, and remember almost 38% of those who voted tried to stop them enjoying these rights, so it stands to reason why people might still feel anxious about coming out.

Noddyholder · 19-03-2017 04:18AM

There is a lady on another thread who unfortunally got her phone robbed and said she is never coming out again...

freshpopcorn · 19-03-2017 04:18AM

To answer you question nobody really OP. Out of people I went to school with I generally knew if people were gay or not once we were around 12+. One person always denied it and he came out a few years ago. Same with my college class. It was fairly obvious from day one. My brother is gay and that didn't really surprise me when he came out.
Out celebrities generally I wasn't overly surprised. I know a few people were surprised with Donal Og Cusack but from my understanding everybody who knew him personally knew it.

Samuel T. Cogley · 19-03-2017 04:20AM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Coming out is still a big deal for a lot of people. It's great that you are so accepting of gay people, but unfortunately not everyone, even in 2017, feels the same way. Gay men and women have only enjoyed equality in Ireland for less than two years, and remember almost 38% of those who voted tried to stop them enjoying these rights, so it stands to reason why people might still feel anxious about coming out.

That was marriage equality. There's still loads of straight people who's family is given less constitution protection than their married counterparts. Ireland is just freakin' odd in a lot of ways.

There will always be idiots that don't like someone because they're different somehow. But I still have to push back on people being defined by their sexuality. I absolutely understand that parents might need to be handled, expecting grand kids or whatever, but I've rarely being introduced to someone and their sexuality been very high up on the agenda.

I just don't see the need for gay people to come out. Coming out only really underscores the notion that it's somehow unnatural or abnormal, it's not. I don't see people queuing up to announce their heterosexuality.

yerwanthere123 · 19-03-2017 04:46AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

That was marriage equality. There's still loads of straight people who's family is given less constitution protection than their married counterparts. Ireland is just freakin' odd in a lot of ways.

There will always be idiots that don't like someone because they're different somehow. But I still have to push back on people being defined by their sexuality. I absolutely understand that parents might need to be handled, expecting grand kids or whatever, but I've rarely being introduced to someone and their sexuality been very high up on the agenda.

I just don't see the need for gay people to come out. Coming out only really underscores the notion that it's somehow unnatural or abnormal, it's not. I don't see people queuing up to announce their heterosexuality.

What 'coming out' are we talking about here though? Is someone mentioning the fact that they're gay in a conversation "announcing" their homosexuality? Seems to me that a lot of people (not you) will tolerate gay people, but only to a certain degree. Kinda like they're ok that you're gay, just don't be shouting about it either and keep it to yourself. I've never seen a gay couple in Ireland be affectionate with each other in public outside of a big city.

Rekop dog · 19-03-2017 04:50AM

He hasn't publicly but Roger Federer was a surprise.

yerwanthere123 · 19-03-2017 05:05AM

Rekop dog wrote: »

He hasn't publicly but Roger Federer was a surprise.

Been reading tennis forum have we?

Outlaw Pete · 19-03-2017 05:11AM

Was shocked last week when I read that Paul Burrell had came out as gay.

Said nobody anywhere....

...but I'm with B.A. ... who the hell cares these days anyway.

Rekop dog · 19-03-2017 05:44AM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Been reading tennis forum have we?

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Barry Badrinath · 19-03-2017 09:28AM

Boards should start a Fight Club.

Me and Andy are up first.

Me and anyone else are up second.

Then we can close the Fight Club.

Andy is like the guy in school that nobody liked because he kept talking weird sh1te and chewing your pencils.

19-03-2017 09:35AM

When people say Andy is this and Mint Aero is that, I think I'm missing out...was there some big fight?

Winterlong · 19-03-2017 09:37AM

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Boards should start a Fight Club.

Me and Andy are up first.

Me and anyone else are up second.

Then we can close the Fight Club.

Andy is like the guy in school that nobody liked because he kept talking weird sh1te and chewing your pencils.

Loser has to change his name to JeremyfromKinnegad.
Except you, your name is good.

The J Stands for Jay · 19-03-2017 09:45AM

JackTaylorFan wrote: »

Well you kinda expect this kinda pig-ignorant **** from a third world country like Longford - but Sligo? I'm disappointed.

Also, Jeff Goldbum - I was totally shocked by that one.

I don't think he's really from Sligo.

Wibbs · 19-03-2017 09:46AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It surprises me when anyone 'comes out' and has done since about 2000 because who the **** cares?

This.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Totally agree.
What I also don't get is people making youtube videos about coming out too

I get that coming out can be a big thing as you are coming out to friends, family and people you know. But making a video for strangers over the internet to watch?

Well outside of the general overall pattern of "look at meee!" on the interwebs, I can kinda understand that TBH BA. When we consider that in many sub cultures in America for example, particularly outside the big cities in very religious areas it's still a huge deal and people have kept their sexuality hidden within communities for much of their lives. I can see the relief at coming out being expressed publicly.

Similarly for some in Hollywood and media who chose to not come out. For some it could ruin their careers, or certainly impact them negatively even today.

Galwayguy35 · 19-03-2017 09:46AM

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

I know he is.

Sometimes I really wish I'd never been an AH mod. I know far more about posters on here than I'd like to know, or that they would even realise I know. It's a hard task not calling people out on their lies and bull**** nowadays but try I must.

And how would you know more about people that post here other than what they post on the threads?

IvyTheTerrible · 19-03-2017 09:47AM

McGaggs wrote: »

I don't think he's really from Sligo.

Oh he is.

Winterlong · 19-03-2017 09:50AM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Oh he is.

Ah stop. My hopes were up there for a moment!

Tell me how · 19-03-2017 09:50AM

Galwayguy35 wrote:

And how would you know more about people that post here other than what they post on the threads?

I expect that as a Mod they may have had both closer analysis of the content and pattern of some people's postings and in some cases may have engaged through PM's with them to try to determine whether they were genuine or trolling.

who are you surprised by coming out?

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