Would you buy a place a place where someone commit suicide?

Fol20 · 01-07-2017 06:32PM #1

As the title suggest, would you get a place where someone commit suicide?

Is there still a stigma around that or would bar an eye lid renting a place like that?

Fighting Tao · 01-07-2017 06:35PM

There would be a huge number of premises empty in the country if people didn't buy them due to a death in it. Thing of the old Georgian tenement buildings and how many people would have died from various causes in them. People will still live in them.

Sam Kade · 01-07-2017 06:36PM

How do you mean a place? A house, a farm, a shop?

Seth Brundle · 01-07-2017 06:38PM

Why not? They aren't going to need it!

LincolnHawk · 01-07-2017 06:52PM

I would, but it's a fair question. I'd draw the line at Fritzel's old dungeon

Grolschevik · 01-07-2017 07:24PM

LincolnHawk wrote:

I would, but it's a fair question. I'd draw the line at Fritzel's old dungeon

Sure that'd just be a granny flat to some on this forum, with the connecting trapdoor and all and â‚¬14k tax free...

tayto lover · 01-07-2017 07:26PM

LincolnHawk wrote: »

I would, but it's a fair question. I'd draw the line at Fritzel's old dungeon

Or Freddie's place at 25, Cromwell Street, Gloucester.

death1234567 · 01-07-2017 07:29PM

LincolnHawk wrote: »

but it's a fair question

No, it isn't. Anyone who wouldn't live in a place because someone committed suicide there is an irrational idiot.

Alpha_zero · 01-07-2017 07:39PM

death1234567 wrote: »

No, it isn't. Anyone who wouldn't live in a place because someone committed suicide there is an irrational idiot.

Sure thing Death

DesperateDan · 01-07-2017 07:51PM

There are a lot of very superstitious people in this country. I think you'd be surprised at the amount of people that would turn down a house because of this.

LincolnHawk · 01-07-2017 08:08PM

death1234567 wrote: »

LincolnHawk wrote: »

but it's a fair question

No, it isn't. Anyone who wouldn't live in a place because someone committed suicide there is an irrational idiot.

How naive you are. Some of the world's greatest minds are irrational

One_Of_Shanks · 01-07-2017 08:15PM

I think I would. You can look at it as creating new happy memories in the place. In fairness, anyone renting/buying a 2nd hand home could be taking on a place where all sorts of horrible things happened, you just don't know.
Every house is just bricks and mortar.
The people living there turn it into a home. I wouldn't be put off, despite maybe feeling a little odd about it initially.

CeilingFly · 01-07-2017 08:17PM

I'd buy it looking to flip it. Would give me the creeps.

Similarly if a murder was in a house it would affect the value - one in goatstown went for 30% lower than similar houses a few years ago.

CeilingFly · 01-07-2017 08:17PM

I'd buy it looking to flip it. Would give me the creeps.

Similarly if a murder was in a house it would affect the value - one in goatstown went for 30% lower than similar houses a few years ago.

eviltwin · 01-07-2017 08:18PM

Why wouldn't you? Is it considered bad luck or something?

One_Of_Shanks · 01-07-2017 08:20PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Is it considered bad luck or something?

Was fairly bad luck for the person who snuffed it anyway

01-07-2017 08:20PM

LincolnHawk wrote: »

How naive you are. Some of the world's greatest minds are irrational

I agree as I am smart (technically anyway!) and I still would not live somewhere that someone committed suicide in.

eviltwin · 01-07-2017 08:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree as I am smart (technically anyway!) and I still would not live somewhere that someone committed suicide in.

Why not?

NIMAN · 01-07-2017 08:26PM

I take it some adults believe in ghosts.

01-07-2017 08:26PM

eviltwin wrote: »

Why not?

Just wouldn't as I Would not feel comfortable living somewhere where someone had felt bad about life that they decided to end things. I am a sensitive soul and would be put off by that - it's like when you visit concentration camps or a graveyard and you feel that there is a sadness connected to the place. It is not a rational thing but it is how I feel.

4ensic15 · 01-07-2017 09:19PM

DesperateDan wrote: »

There are a lot of very superstitious people in this country. I think you'd be surprised at the amount of people that would turn down a house because of this.

It is bad luck to be superstitious!

the_syco · 02-07-2017 01:42AM

NIMAN wrote: »

I take it some adults believe in ghosts.

Some of them call said ghosts "angels" or "daemons", depending on how much money their local holy man gets paid...!

Atlantic Dawn · 02-07-2017 01:45AM

If there was blood involved no.

ED E · 02-07-2017 01:45AM

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Was fairly bad luck for the person who snuffed it anyway

Only if they were playing Russian Roulet.

Jesus Wept · 02-07-2017 01:46AM

spirits

Filmer Paradise · 02-07-2017 01:56AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just wouldn't as I Would not feel comfortable living somewhere where someone had felt bad about life that they decided to end things. I am a sensitive soul and would be put off by that - it's like when you visit concentration camps or a graveyard and you feel that there is a sadness connected to the place. It is not a rational thing but it is how I feel.

Near me there's a place where there was a young couple renting.

Nice house in a nice area & all that, but the house is abandoned & neglected for years.

WHY?

The young couple. Boyfriend stabbed the girlfriend to death in that house.

Would you seriously live in there knowing what happened?

Surreptitious · 02-07-2017 01:57AM

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Near me there's a place where there was a young couple renting.

Nice house in a nice area & all that, but the house is abandoned & neglected for years.

WHY?

The young couple. Boyfriend stabbed the girlfriend to death in that house.

Would you seriously live in there knowing what happened?

I definitely wouldn't. I've seen The Amityville Horror.

stilllooking · 02-07-2017 01:59AM

I'd love to in the hope I'd get it cheaper.

fg1406 · 02-07-2017 07:20AM

2 people died (separately) in the last house I lived in. I couldn't give a ****e what happened in the house. My uncle bought a house in a rural location about 10 years ago where a man killed himself and his wife. It wasn't any cheaper or anything. He just liked the area and the house.

02-07-2017 08:43AM

Wouldn't bother me in the least, don't really understand why it would bother people but the fact it would point to the possibility of getting the house cheaper.

The fact is that any house could have had someone commit suicide in it and unless you are buying in an area you know well the chances are you will never know as these sort of things are never published or anything like that.

Eyes Down Field · 02-07-2017 11:08AM

Wouldn't bother me at all. Death is completely natural. Everything that lives eventually dies. Whether someone dies by the bodies systems shutting down, by the hand of another, or by their own hand. It really makes no difference.

MrDerp · 02-07-2017 11:40AM

I'd be sure to loudly tell a friend/partner all about it at any open viewing. No point in someone bidding against me if it might bother them before closing.

Personally I wouldn't care about it. There's a lot of people who believe in energies and afterlife and ghosts and conception without sex etc. I'd wager a good 70-80% of people are spiritual is some guise, religious or otherwise, so I'd imagine it might bother them in some way. Hollywood tropes around murder houses and the like don't help either.

Alpha_zero · 02-07-2017 05:06PM

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Wouldn't bother me at all. Death is completely natural. Everything that lives eventually dies. Whether someone dies by the bodies systems shutting down, by the hand of another, or by their own hand. It really makes no difference.

Suicide is not natural, as you have to act against every natural instinct of the body and mind.

Scraggs · 02-07-2017 05:17PM

Bo Large Sewing wrote: »

Wouldn't bother me in the least, don't really understand why it would bother people but the fact it would point to the possibility of getting the house cheaper.

The fact is that any house could have had someone commit suicide in it and unless you are buying in an area you know well the chances are you will never know as these sort of things are never published or anything like that.

Completely agree. I was just going to say how would you even know there had been a suicide unless you were from the area/knew the family.

What would these superstitious people do if they found out they had bought and were living in a house there had been a suicide in? Sell up? Get an exorcist in?

Fol20 · 02-07-2017 05:22PM

Scraggs wrote: »

Completely agree. I was just going to say how would you even know there had been a suicide unless you were from the area/knew the family.

What would these superstitious people do if they found out they had bought and were living in a house there had been a suicide in? Sell up? Get an exorcist in?

Im thinking more from an investment point of view.. If tenants find out, they want to leave early?

tayto lover · 02-07-2017 05:34PM

DesperateDan wrote: »

There are a lot of very superstitious people in this country. I think you'd be surprised at the amount of people that would turn down a house because of this.

Its only when the lights flicker at night and unexplained bangs and noises are hear that people begin to wonder ...... what the Hell was that?

Moomintroll99 · 02-07-2017 05:42PM

I've seen grim stuff have the exact opposite effect.

I had a friend back in Australia whose dad was literally axe murdered in his home, in a drug addled rent boy incident which caused a massive scandal in the local area.

Small rural town, so not a huge number of people looking to buy there, and everyone in town knew what had happened, it was a big news story. Plus the house was nothing special even without the murder.

She put the place on the market expecting to have huge trouble selling it. Instead at the first open house, 3 different guys showed up, all attracted by the story cause they thought it would be a bargain.

Ended up selling it for full market value in record time.

the_syco · 02-07-2017 07:12PM

Fol20 wrote: »

Im thinking more from an investment point of view.. If tenants find out, they want to leave early?

They won't be getting their deposit back.

I actually wonder how many PTRB cases are "ghost" related?

4ensic15 · 02-07-2017 07:54PM

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Wouldn't bother me at all. Death is completely natural. Everything that lives eventually dies. Whether someone dies by the bodies systems shutting down, by the hand of another, or by their own hand. It really makes no difference.

My grandmother refused to move into a house where there had been TB. A rational decision since there was no vaccination available against TB at the time and there was quite a low survival rate.

Gen.Zhukov · 02-07-2017 10:19PM

I live in a house where someone died by suicide. Funnily enough it wasn't in the brochure. It was the neighbour beside me that decided that on a need to know basis, I needed to know. I actually didn't need to know. The complete tool !

I don't really care and nothing has happened to freak me out. I do however think about it from time to time.

wordofwarning · 02-07-2017 11:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just wouldn't as I Would not feel comfortable living somewhere where someone had felt bad about life that they decided to end things. I am a sensitive soul and would be put off by that - it's like when you visit concentration camps or a graveyard and you feel that there is a sadness connected to the place. It is not a rational thing but it is how I feel.

Can I ask, have you ever listed the Jervis Centre? A lot of people seem to forget that it was a working hospital for decades and thousands likely died in it. Yet with some good lighting, nice flooring and decent shops no one thinks twice about it. Or no one feels uneasy about all the people who died in the GPO when they are collecting the scratcher.

If you are unfamiliar with a place's past and it looks nice. Most people would be none of the wiser.

the_syco · 03-07-2017 05:14AM

wordofwarning wrote: »

Can I ask, have you ever listed the Jervis Centre? A lot of people seem to forget that it was a working hospital for decades and thousands likely died in it. Yet with some good lighting, nice flooring and decent shops no one thinks twice about it. Or no one feels uneasy about all the people who died in the GPO when they are collecting the scratcher.

Likewise Dr Steevens' is not a hospital anymore. Everyone who went there from the plague died, including the doctors and nurses who treated them.

But people now work there.

Peregrinus · 03-07-2017 05:43AM

Fol20 wrote: »

Im thinking more from an investment point of view.. If tenants find out, they want to leave early?

It all depends

A friend of mine, back in the mid-80s, rented a very attractive flat in Muswell Hill, in London for a very advantageous rent. The rent was so advantageous because the flat was two doors from the house in which Dennis Nilsen had killed several of his victims and concealed their bodies, and in which he was arrested. This wasn't even the same house, but it was on the same road, and the address was for a while notorious. It was extremely difficult to let houses there; hence the attractive rent.

Obviously, that kind of thing would affect the value of the house as an investment. Presumably after a while the effect weakens and disappears, but you'd be taking a gamble on how long that might be.

And events might prolong the notoriety. A serial killer by the name of John Christie murdered at least eight people in his home, 10 Rillington Place, Notting Hill, a fact which many people remember even today because there was a best-selling book and later a film about the murders, called 10 Rillington Place. Not only the house but the entire street was eventually demolished, and rebuilt with a different alignment, a different name and a small park where the murder house had formerly been.

So, yeah, if the events which have happened in a house are sufficiently notorious, they do become a relevant consideration in an investment decision.

Ann_Landers · 03-07-2017 05:44AM

I would, no bother. I've lived in lots of red-brick terraces in Dublin and I like to sometimes imagine what went on in them down the years, from births to deaths, happiness to heartache. I like to consider the history of an old property. And I don't believe in ghosts so no fear here of the house being haunted. :pac:

Teyla Emmagan · 03-07-2017 06:28AM

tayto lover wrote:

Or Freddie's place at 25, Cromwell Street, Gloucester.

That was levelled to stop the ghouls coming around.

03-07-2017 09:39AM

Fol20 wrote: »

Im thinking more from an investment point of view.. If tenants find out, they want to leave early?

Let them off and get new ones. In fact it might be worth telling tenants who you want rid of in the hope it makes them want to leave.

Bandana boy · 03-07-2017 03:43PM

As long as the death was not so gruesome as to attract weirdos visiting the place , I could not care a jot what happened before hand.

Would you buy a place a place where someone commit suicide?

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