Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:56PM

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Arent you great?

Do you pat yourself on the back and tell yourself how great you are every day?

Just a few months ago you were checking out slimming world and had weight to lose so I guess even perfect people put on a few lb from time to time eh?

I went from 10 stone to 9 after having a baby. Not 22 stone to 21 stone! Thanks for reminding me of my achievements.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:57PM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

I don't understand why Rose is being targeted here. It's unseemly. Can someone explain?
Does the truth hurt?

Precisely. I should be going to Iceland but I ain't. I CARE!

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 02:57PM

http://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/childhood/en/

Childhood obesity is one of the most serious public health challenges of the 21st century. The problem is global and is steadily affecting many low- and middle-income countries, particularly in urban settings. The prevalence has increased at an alarming rate. Globally, in 2015 the number of overweight children under the age of five, is estimated to be over 42 million. Almost half of all overweight children under 5 lived in Asia and one quarter lived in Africa.

Overweight and obese children are likely to stay obese into adulthood and more likely to develop noncommunicable diseases like diabetes and cardiovascular diseases at a younger age. Overweight and obesity, as well as their related diseases, are largely preventable. Prevention of childhood obesity therefore needs high priority.

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buck65 · 29-09-2017 02:58PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Part of my parcel of being a parent.

If I wanted an easy life, I could go to Iceland, load the freezer up and throw nutritionally dense chicken nuggets and chips at my children every day.

I'd rather not take the easy road.

I care about their health.

Rose, I agree with everything you've said here. Everyone is having a go because they "don't have time" to feed, plan and shop like you do.

The truth is most of them take the easy road and that is fair enough as it is quite frankly a chore and another job in busy lives. We all do it now and again but if for the most part we feed our children properly , be sparing with treats to the point where they appreciate them rather than expect them we are a long way down the road to providing a healthy life for them.

Some of these same people that haven't the time or inclination to cook proper meals have the time to be on boards, to watch t.v , to play with their phones etc.

I see the kids in my sons class and their lunches, they laugh at him for eating healthy food - which he enjoys - they tuck into their nutella sandwiches, they are actually borderline bullying in their behaviour - their parents should be ashamed.

givyjoe · 29-09-2017 02:58PM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

I don't understand why Rose is being targeted here. It's unseemly. Can someone explain?
Does the truth hurt?

Knew someone would eventually trot that out. I don't think she is being targeted at all.. or that the essence of her points are being disagreed with.. i.e. healthy eating.

However, the posts are coming across as someone who seems to be (in their posts!) a stuck up, judgmental, condescending know it all. That sounds allot harsher than I intended it to be, but the poster really isn't coming across well with their attitude. The fact so many, so quickly have taken issue with the posts should be a hint.

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 02:59PM

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So you had excess weight right?

It does happen to people then, even those who meticulously plan, shop for and cook perfect nutritionally complete meals?

Try having a 9 pound baby. He had to go somewhere.

It isn't hard to integrate healthy habits into your week.

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whisky_galore · 29-09-2017 03:00PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Poor cardboard diet. Even parents who look slim and healthy themselves still feed their children crap.

I go out for lunch regularly but I would never give my children chips or pizza or nuggets etc.

It's just lazy and convenience all the way.

I ate ****e food; pre-packaged slices of frozen pizzas with plastic toppings, sweets, chocs, Instant Whip, crisps, sugary stuff, salty stuff.. and so did other kids and iirc the number of kids in national school that were obese back then you could count on one hand.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 03:01PM

Parent education is the key to solving the obesity epidemic. Bad feeding habits and lack of physical exercise is literally killing our children. The rot has to stop.
It will when parents are willing to learn and we get a mindset change. However, there will be much misery before that happens.

SusieBlue · 29-09-2017 03:01PM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

I don't understand why Rose is being targeted here. It's unseemly. Can someone explain?
Does the truth hurt?

I think it might be because she is implying that children who she sees eating junk food have parents who neither care nor love them, even though that might have been the only bit of junk food they've had for weeks, even though the child may have a behavioural or health issue which impacts what the parent can get the child to consume, and a variety of other reasons.

Granted some parents feed their children rubbish out of convenience but to say that every child she sees eating a chicken nugget has parents who don't give a sh*t is obviously gonna get peoples backs up.

She seems to do a great job of feeding her own kids a healthy diet and instead of offering advice and tips to other parents, she's making snide comments and insinuating they don't care about their kids. There are kinder ways of going about things than the way she has.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 03:01PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

I ate ****e food; pre-packaged slices of frozen pizzas with plastic toppings, sweets, chocs, Instant Whip, crisps, sugary stuff, salty stuff.. and so did other kids and iirc the number of kids in national school that were obese back then you could count on one hand.

You were much more active.

You did not have an XBox, tablet, phone, Ipod, 100 TV channels etc etc

Romantic Rose · 29-09-2017 03:03PM

givyjoe wrote: »

Knew someone would eventually trot that out. I don't think she is being targeted at all.. or that the essence of her points are being disagreed with.. i.e. healthy eating.

However, the posts are coming across as someone who seems to be (in their posts!) a stuck up, judgmental, condescending know it all. That sounds allot harsher than I intended it to be, but the poster really isn't coming across well with their attitude. The fact so many, so quickly have taken issue with the posts should be a hint.

Easily offended because the truth hurts.

I don't know it all but I see it all on a daily basis.

I only have to go to my local play centre and see what kind of food parents serve up to their children.

It's pure and simple the easy option.

My 4 year old has never once being served a chip. I don't feed her highly processed food.

I go to the supermarket and I check labels. If it's processed, it won't be going into my trolley.

Not that hard to do.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 03:03PM

WhiteRoses wrote: »

I think it might be because she is implying that children who she sees eating junk food have parents who neither care nor love them, even though that might have been the only bit of junk food they've had for weeks, even though the child may have a behavioural or health issue which impacts what the parent can get the child to consume, and a variety of other reasons.

Granted some parents feed their children rubbish out of convenience but to say that every child she sees eating a chicken nugget has parents who don't give a sh*t is obviously gonna get peoples backs up.

She seems to do a great job of feeding her own kids a healthy diet and instead of offering advice and tips to other parents, she's making snide comments and insinuating they don't care about their kids. There are kinder ways of going about things than the way she has.

1 in 4 Irish children are overweight.

Who is responsible for children's diets?

whoopsadoodles · 29-09-2017 03:04PM

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No - its because she told another poster that they had addicted their child to salt and sugar and then threw a few carrots at the child and thats why the child was a bad eater.

Then went on to pontificate about the hours she spends on her own.

No she didn't. She specifically apologised to the poster and said her post wasn't aimed at her but she had seen this sort of behaviour lots of times. And yes, it does exist and yes, some parents do take lazy route and wonder then why their kids will only eat junk. If they never had junk to begin with, they'd never only eat it.

You've gotten extremely nasty and personal with Rose and yet you're calling her out as being rude. Your posts have been extremely cnutish.

osarusan · 29-09-2017 03:04PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

I ate ****e food; pre-packaged slices of frozen pizzas with plastic toppings, sweets, chocs, Instant Whip, crisps, sugary stuff, salty stuff.. and so did other kids and iirc the number of kids in national school that were obese back then you could count on one hand.

Indeed.

I know in my case, the only way you could get me to eat anything in school as a kid was for it to be fairly 'junky'. Otherwise I'd just go out and play. I would have eaten a lot of jam sandwiches, peanut butter, and that Panda chocolate spread.

But at home there were always loads of vegetables, loads of them, as my mother could ensure we actually ate them, which she couldn't when we were at school.

Of course, healthier is better, but the content of a child's lunchbox at school isn't necessarily an insight into their overall diet.

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givyjoe · 29-09-2017 03:07PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Easily offended because the truth hurts.

I don't know it all but I see it all on a daily basis.

I only have to go to my local play centre and see what kind of food parents serve up to their children.

It's pure and simple the easy option.

My 4 year old has never once being served a chip. I don't feed her highly processed food.

I go to the supermarket and I check labels. If it's processed, it won't be going into my trolley.

Not that hard to do.

I think you completely missed the point of what I said. I'm not offended by the assertion of healthy eating being important.. or anything you've said actually. I completely disagree with how you're saying it. Your posts paint the picture of a pretty dislikeable character.

Not living on a high horse shouldn't be too hard to do either.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 03:07PM

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/living/2016/0831/813239-is-your-child-one-of-the-1-in-4-overweight-children-in-ireland/

One in four children in Ireland is now either overweight or obese. Overweight children are more likely to become obese adults. And that’s when the problems really start.

The statistic I find most worrying, however, is the fact that in a survey conducted by Safe Food Ireland, 54 per cent of parents of overweight children, and 20 per cent of parents of obese children, didn’t realise that their children were not at a healthy weight. They were reported as saying that they thought their children were “about the right weight” for their height.

Am I scaremongering? Maybe a little. But this is serious.

Ostrich parents are kicking the can down the road. For Ostrich, read reckless.

SusieBlue · 29-09-2017 03:07PM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

1 in 4 Irish children are overweight.

Who is responsible for children's diets?

There is obviously an epidemic. But considering that there may be health or behavioural issues at play before dismissing a fellow worn out, exhausted mother who is just doing her best instead of mentally judging her and dismissing her as a sh*t parent would be kinder.

Zubeneschamali · 29-09-2017 03:07PM

B0jangles wrote: »

A lot of people would just die because they can't afford to pay

Freedom!

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pilly · 29-09-2017 03:08PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Easily offended because the truth hurts.

I don't know it all but I see it all on a daily basis.

I only have to go to my local play centre and see what kind of food parents serve up to their children.

It's pure and simple the easy option.

My 4 year old has never once being served a chip. I don't feed her highly processed food.

I go to the supermarket and I check labels. If it's processed, it won't be going into my trolley.

Not that hard to do.

If it has a label it's been processed so that part of your post is pure bs.

whoopsadoodles · 29-09-2017 03:08PM

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LOL!

I imagine the irony is lost on you?

Go on so. Tell me what irony?

You dug through her history and pulled personal posts from other threads to get nasty. That results in cnutish posts.

Nettle Soup · 29-09-2017 03:09PM

osarusan wrote: »

Indeed.

I know in my case, the only way you could get me to eat anything in school as a kid was for it to be fairly 'junky'. Otherwise I'd just go out and play. I would have eaten a lot of jam sandwiches, peanut butter, and that Panda chocolate spread.

But at home there were always loads of vegetables, loads of them, as my mother could ensure we actually ate them, which she couldn't when we were at school.

Of course, healthier is better, but the content of a child's lunchbox at school isn't necessarily an insight into their overall diet.

Obesity is about Food + Activity levels.

McCrack · 29-09-2017 03:09PM

Romantic Rose wrote: »

Too many things to mention that is making us fat.

I don't think it's just the carbs because we grew up on carbs and none of us were fat.

I just find that everything is an excuse to eat and eat crap at that.

Have a cup of tea/coffee biscuits and cake.

Parents are so bad for feeding their children chips, nuggets, burgers. It's like a broken record. Developing poor habits early.

Birthday parties on a near weekly basis with mountains of sweets, crisps, pizza, chocolate, fizzy drinks. Pure saturated fat everywhere.

Junk junk and more junk. No such thing as a treat, just food to fill up with.

Also, food companies pump far too much crap into our food and are being allowed to get away with it. Processed to maximise profit and get us addicted.

Agree about the fizzy drinks. Why the fook are there 14 or whatever teaspoons of sugar in a bottle of Lucozade. Absolute disgrace that a company can get away with that and market it in anyway healthy.

Where are the government here.

Need more companies like Chopped to balance out the Fatty Fast Food Outlets that are on every street corner these days.

I agree with your general sentiments except for the "government".

I think people need to take responsibility for their own diet - education is essential here

I think a good start for a lot of people might be the nutrition forum here on boards.

SusieBlue · 29-09-2017 03:09PM

WhiteRoses wrote: »

What would be your suggestion for someone like my brother, who has autism and will only eat white solid foods, and will gag, vomit and have a meltdown if food of another colour (aka fruit, veg, and any meat besides chicken) goes near his plate?

I take it if you saw his daily diet you'd be straight on to social services?

Quoting myself here, I'm still waiting for a reply Rose? Genuinely interested to hear what you would do in the situation my mum finds herself with her now almost adult child on a daily basis.

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whoopsadoodles · 29-09-2017 03:10PM

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If youre not smart enough to understand it thats your own problem.

Google irony. Reread your own post.

You can't explain your own accusation then.

I understand

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