Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

Permabear · 29-09-2017 09:35PM

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Unearthly · 29-09-2017 09:49PM

I think when it comes to exercise you need to find something you enjoy otherwise you'll give up after a few weeks. I love cycling, football and walks. Never joined a gym in my life but i don't need to. Other people prefer setting targets and having apps track their progress, whatever works.

Definitely think cycling to work needs to be considered more by people, it makes the excuse of not having time to exercise on a workday redundant

Electric Sheep · 29-09-2017 09:53PM

Unearthly wrote: »

I think when it comes to exercise you need to find something you enjoy otherwise you'll give up after a few weeks. I love cycling, football and walks. Never joined a gym in my life but i don't need to. Other people prefer setting targets and having apps track their progress, whatever works.

Definitely think cycling to work needs to be considered more by people, it makes the excuse of not having time to exercise on a workday redundant

I've never needed to lose weight in my life, but I recently got a Fitbit, and find it wonderfully motivating. I have gone from an average of about 9000 steps a day to an average of 16000. It also reminds me to move for a little while every hour.

Unearthly · 29-09-2017 09:59PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

I've never needed to lose weight in my life, but I recently got a Fitbit, and find it wonderfully motivating. I have gone from an average of about 9000 steps a day to an average of 16000. It also reminds me to move for a little while every hour.

Yes anyone I've seen with them seem to enjoy it and brings out the competitiveness in people

meeeeh · 29-09-2017 10:01PM

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People with kids can also miss more work, pregnant women, people with chronic illness, mental health problems, smokers, excessive drinkers...

Anyway obesity is much more prevalent in deprived areas. Punishing people on medical cards with higher private health cost won't have much effect. Neither will charging for two seats in a plane once per year. Sugar tax, more effective regulation of processed food production, limited advertising, teaching people to cook and similar would be more effective measures. I was joking about banning alcohol but decreasing alcohol consumption would also help. Most people who are overweight know they are overweight. Extra fat doesn't suddenly make you stupid so providing proper information on packaging, regulation of "nutritionist" nonsense every gym bunny with a three day course seems to peddle, proper p.e. in schools, encouraging active lifestyle and so on will help. Sugar tax could work because it signals to people certain food or drink is unhealthy.

Electric Sheep · 29-09-2017 10:05PM

Unearthly wrote: »

Yes anyone I've seen with them seem to enjoy it and brings out the competitiveness in people

The funny thing is that you are competing with yourself, not other people! But it works:)

Permabear · 29-09-2017 10:54PM

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Bigbagofcans · 29-09-2017 10:56PM

BarryD2 wrote: »

Where are all these obese people in Ireland? Genuinely when I'm out and about, I see people of various sizes but rarely people that are very obviously overweight.

That's because many of us have normalised obesity.
People think the term obese means someone who is the size of a house but really a lot of people who think they're 'just' overweight are clinically obese.

In a study, more than a third (36%) of UK adults thought they were simply overweight when they were actually clinically obese.

uch · 29-09-2017 11:03PM

Bigbagofcans wrote: »

That's because many of us have normalised obesity.
People think the term obese means someone who is the size of a house but really a lot of people who think they're 'just' overweight are clinically obese.

In a study, more than a third (36%) of UK adults thought they were simply overweight when they were actually clinically obese.

This isn't the UK last time there was a rebellion checked

end of the road · 29-09-2017 11:04PM

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i suspect they are deluded, or naive as there is no evidence to prove the belief to be accurate. realistically as i said, this issue is not an issue that can be penalised away.

Permabear wrote: »

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there is no evidence that Higher insurance costs help to curb obesity. it may be believed that it can but i suspect that is wishful thinking.
higher costs for cigarettes quite possibly mostly sent people to the black market, it's effects in curbing smoking are rather small.

Permabear wrote: »

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we know all this, but such is for the most part frowned upon by government and it must stay that way.

Bigbagofcans · 29-09-2017 11:08PM

uch wrote: »

This isn't the UK last time there was a rebellion checked

I'd reckon the percentage of people in denial of their obesity would be similar if a study was done here.

TotalReality · 29-09-2017 11:11PM

Would it be fairer to say it is normal/ok to be unhealthy in Ireland?

Permabear · 29-09-2017 11:15PM

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beauf · 29-09-2017 11:20PM

Bigbagofcans wrote: »

... In a study, more than a third (36%) of UK adults thought they were simply overweight when they were actually clinically obese.. .

... People here want to sack and marginalise 36% of people...

beauf · 29-09-2017 11:23PM

TotalReality wrote: »

Would it be fairer to say it is normal/ok to be unhealthy in Ireland?

Unhealthy life styles and diets are common. That would be a more rational starting point alright.

TotalReality · 29-09-2017 11:33PM

beauf wrote: »

Unhealthy life styles and diets are common. That would be a more rational starting point alright.

And less insulting to overweight people who cant help being overweight for whatever reasons.

Permabear · 29-09-2017 11:40PM

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_Brian · 29-09-2017 11:45PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I think a better question is "Why are people obsessed with other people's appearance?"

I'm fairness this isn't just about appearance.

Seriously overweight and obese people will be clogging up hospitals in a few years as their bodies collapse under the stress of their self inflicted conditions.

Currently smoking is tue No1 reason people are in hospital, in time that will change for conditions related to being overweight.

uch · 29-09-2017 11:46PM

Why in the name of any God would any man not adore a Lady with a 36DD bust and a 34" waist, heaven to me, not everybody loves blades of straw you know

Irish_rat · 29-09-2017 11:51PM

Feckoffcup wrote: »

Either you go to the gym or you're overweight. That's the way the majority of Irish women. It's rare to see someone who doesn't work out and have a flat tummy especially over 30.

Absolutely bullocks, it's what you eat plain and simple. I could lose a stone in 6/7 weeks by adjusting my food intake. You don't need to exercise to lose weight but I'd recommend it to look and feel good.

Permabear · 29-09-2017 11:52PM

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Penny Tration · 29-09-2017 11:52PM

uch wrote: »

Why in the name of any God would any man not adore a Lady with a 36DD bust and a 34" waist, heaven to me, not everybody loves blades of straw you know

And there's absolutely nothing nice about insulting thin women like you just did either!

Penny Tration · 29-09-2017 11:57PM

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Breast size isn't a great measurement of weight, though. While I'm certainly overweight at a UK size 14, I was an F cup when I was a size 22, and a H cup with a far smaller back now I'm a 14.

My sister is a size 8, and is actually underweight according to her bmi, with D cups.

Some women simply have bigger boobs.

The fact that chain high street shops like Penney's now go up to a size 20 is indicative of the higher demand for larger sizes, though.

uch · 30-09-2017 12:00AM

Penny Tration wrote: »

And there's absolutely nothing nice about insulting thin women like you just did either!

Did not, read it again, I said not everybody, that normally means, not everybody, where's the insult ?

Penny Tration · 30-09-2017 12:02AM

uch wrote: »

Did not, read it again, I said not everybody, that normally means, not everybody, where's the insult ?

Calling thin women "blades of grass" isn't very nice.

TotalReality · 30-09-2017 12:02AM

uch wrote: »

Why in the name of any God would any man not adore a Lady with a 36DD bust and a 34" waist, heaven to me, not everybody loves blades of straw you know

Here.

uch · 30-09-2017 12:04AM

oh right, I should have been politically correct and said a lot of people like curvy women and not skinny fukcers, yea I get it now

TotalReality · 30-09-2017 12:05AM

uch wrote: »

oh right, I should have been politically correct and said a lot of people like curvy women and not skinny fukcers, yea I get it now

And again.No need for it.

uch · 30-09-2017 12:07AM

TotalReality wrote: »

And again.No need for it.

Ah go way out of that, I gave an opinion, it's like an arsé you know, we all have one

Penny Tration · 30-09-2017 12:08AM

uch wrote: »

oh right, I should have been politically correct and said a lot of people like curvy women and not skinny fukcers, yea I get it now

Oh give it over.

Thin women are just as beautiful as curvy women. Thin women can have curves too, like. And some thin women are willowy and straight up and down. And theyre still just as beautiful.

You may prefer bigger women, but there's absolutely no call for insulting thin women.

We can't win really lads, can we? When I was a size 22, I was morbidly obese. As a size 14, I've just been told to lose another 3 stone to get surgery I need. And i guarantee when I lose that three more stone, people like uch will think I'm too thin.

It doesn't matter what weight we women are, there's always someone happy to insult it. No wonder so many women have disordered thoughts about their bodies.

Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

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