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Get a freesat box or Enigma2 Linux box

  • 30-09-2017 08:30PM
    #1
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭


    Hey

    I was holding out hope that Saorview Connect would offer 7 day epg guide on satellite. That now looks like it won't happen.

    My needs aren't huge.

    What I want is to be able to series link programmes especially like Match of the Day and other stuff like it. Being able to remote record would be handy but not needed if pushed.

    I was thinking I could just get a single tuner humax freesat box that would presumably series link and just use it in conjunction with my existing combo box (and just change the hdmi input when needed). Would the freesat app allow me to remote record I wonder?

    The other option is to get one of the triple tuner linux boxes with enigma2 preloaded from freetv (sab, edison or amiko).

    Is there much involved in setting one up and much ongoing updating etc.

    Apologies if this has been asked numerous times before.


    Thanks

    Edit: I would also like a hybrid tv option


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  • #2
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Can anyone help me with this?
    I am thinking of combining a freesat humax 1100s box with my existing combo box.

    If I put the existing sat feed into the freesat box am I good to go if I purchase an all in 1 remote?

    I have a hdmi splitter at the back of the tv so I guess it will be a bit of hassle to change hdmi inputs. The box above also wouldn't have a hard drive.

    Is going down the enigma route the better option?
    Is it reliable and a finished product once set up?


  • #3
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭swoofer


    you dont say what you want to watch, is it saorview and freesat? what combo box have you got? what tv have you? most tv's have more than one hdmi port.


  • #4
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    At the moment I have a combo box in both the sitting room and a bedroom upstairs.

    Two cables coming in with Sat and uhf feeds combined on each cable and then split to each box.

    Ideally to futureproof I could put both feeds into the sitting room box and stream to the bedroom.


  • #5
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Anyone?


  • #6
    Tom Mann Centuria
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,257 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I set my vu duo2 up with no problems really, couple of good forums with guides for common things like setting up epgs etc. depending what image (or whatever it's called) you put on your box.

    I have openvix and very happy with it.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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  • #7
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    I set my vu duo2 up with no problems really, couple of good forums with guides for common things like setting up epgs etc. depending what image (or whatever it's called) you put on your box.

    I have openvix and very happy with it.

    There seems to be so many different boxes out there but I want to future proof some bit if I can.
    That would mean possibly 4k but who knows when any of the main free to air channels will go down that route. This forum seems quiet so hard to know if many people are going down this route.

    There are android boxes v linux boxes.
    I presume the android boxes don't give the full epg for sat/terrestrial.
    Most android apps have chromecast anyway.

    I'd be tempted to go with paytv but they lack all channels and charge extra for hd and additional bedrooms.

    Is there a hybrid tv box out there that can match sky q?
    Series link plus remote recording?


  • #8
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    There seems to be so many different boxes out there but I want to future proof some bit if I can.
    That would mean possibly 4k but who knows when any of the main free to air channels will go down that route. This forum seems quiet so hard to know if many people are going down this route.

    There are android boxes v linux boxes.
    I presume the android boxes don't give the full epg for sat/terrestrial.
    Most android apps have chromecast anyway.

    I'd be tempted to go with paytv but they lack all channels and charge extra for hd and additional bedrooms.

    Is there a hybrid tv box out there that can match sky q?
    Series link plus remote recording?

    The benefit of the pay TV providers is that they tend to just work without user intervention. To go down the Enigma route you would have to be familiar or willing to learn basic Linux, FTP, Putty, editing XML, IP adressing etc.

    None of these are particularly difficult if you are willing to put in the effort. There are plenty of tutorials available and once set up should need minimal tinkering.

    All of the Enigma boxes can series link with a plugin called Auto Timer, remote record I am unsure of as I have not looked into it.


  • #9
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Pretty much any enigma based box can do series linking and remote recording. As for 4k, it is unlikely that any will be FTA in the near future. Even on the European satellites, the only FTA 4k channels I know of are a fashion channel and a German shopping channel. Android v enigma? Enigma has been around for a while now. There are several well tested and supported 'flavours' available. My preference is for openATV. My very limited experience of android told me to avoid it for now. There is the beginnings of a trend towards full band LNBs and tuners similar to that used by Sky Q but the existing technology is likely to around for a good while yet. Others here know more about this than me.


  • #10
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Nathaniel Fluffy Oaf wrote: »
    The benefit of the pay TV providers is that they tend to just work without user intervention. To go down the Enigma route you would have to be familiar or willing to learn basic Linux, FTP, Putty, editing XML, IP adressing etc.

    None of these are particularly difficult if you are willing to put in the effort. There are plenty of tutorials available and once set up should need minimal tinkering.

    All of the Enigma boxes can series link with a plugin called Auto Timer, remote record I am unsure of as I have not looked into it.

    I just looked on satellitetv for a price on the Vu Duo - nearly €500!

    My setup at the moment suits me fairly well with sat/terrestrial in the sitting room and a bedroom with recording available plus timeshift so I am not too bad.

    I find I use Chromecast instead of the functionality offered by some of these boxes and if the rte player supports it in future it would be one less reason to upgrade.

    Edit: I wonder if the Saorview Connect box is linux based could one tinker with it to set up full epg?


  • #11
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Nathaniel Fluffy Oaf wrote: »
    .... To go down the Enigma route you would have to be familiar or willing to learn basic Linux, FTP, Putty, editing XML, IP adressing etc.....

    There isn't that much involved for the average user. If you have a basic understanding of files / folders you don't need much more. I have never used putty or edited an XML file for my boxes. There is plenty of software to help with the setup, most of which comes on the box.
    Many users start off with someone else's backup image that is already setup and learn from there.


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  • #12
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    There isn't that much involved for the average user. If you have a basic understanding of files / folders you don't need much more. I have never used putty or edited an XML file for my boxes. There is plenty of software to help with the setup, most of which comes on the box.
    Many users start off with someone else's backup image that is already setup and learn from there.

    I think freetv sell boxes with Enigma2 preloaded.
    Would you have to do much more then to get full epg and series link etc.


  • #13
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    There isn't that much involved for the average user. If you have a basic understanding of files / folders you don't need much more. I have never used putty or edited an XML file for my boxes. There is plenty of software to help with the setup, most of which comes on the box.
    Many users start off with someone else's backup image that is already setup and learn from there.

    Perhaps you're correct Gerry. I would have had prior experience with Linux so perhaps I am over complicating what is needed.


  • #14
    Tom Mann Centuria
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,257 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    I just looked on satellitetv for a price on the Vu Duo - nearly €500!

    My setup at the moment suits me fairly well with sat/terrestrial in the sitting room and a bedroom with recording available plus timeshift so I am not too bad.

    I find I use Chromecast instead of the functionality offered by some of these boxes and if the rte player supports it in future it would be one less reason to upgrade.

    Edit: I wonder if the Saorview Connect box is linux based could one tinker with it to set up full epg?

    Well you can get a duo2 starting from 250 sterling, but there are loads of other boxes out there. Considerably cheaper.

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/vu-plus-duo-2-duo2?filter_name=Vu%20duo2


    Good luck with whatever you decide.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • #15
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Nathaniel Fluffy Oaf wrote: »
    Perhaps you're correct Gerry. I would have had prior experience with Linux so perhaps I am over complicating what is needed.

    Even starting from a clean install it 'talks you through' the basic setup just like any new TV or similar. Personalising / customising things like a favourites list takes a wee bit more time but only needs to be done once. I would compare it to buying a new phone or laptop. The basics work almost straight away and then you customise it to suit yourself.


  • #16
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    Even starting from a clean install it 'talks you through' the basic setup just like any new TV or similar. Personalising / customising things like a favourites list takes a wee bit more time but only needs to be done once.

    I know, I set up a Vu+ Solo2 recently and got it running pretty flawlessly. I did some XML editing for channels but as you say that is not strictly necessary.


  • #17
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »
    Well you can get a duo2 starting from 250 sterling, but there are loads of other boxes out there. Considerably cheaper.

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/vu-plus-duo-2-duo2?filter_name=Vu%20duo2


    Good luck with whatever you decide.

    Thanks for that link.
    It comes with 2 sat tuners incuded in price.
    The dvb-c option I presume is cable.
    Would I need to select the twin dvd-t/t2/c to be able to view other saorview channels while recording another (due to 2 muxes)?

    Finally could I then stream any channel to a tv upstairs or is that beyond this box?


  • #18
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    I use this as my second box and find it pretty good. How often would you need to record/watch something on RTÉ AND TV3 at the same time? Most people manage without a second DVB-T tuner. Let's face it, almost anything on TV3 is also available in HD on ITV.


  • #19
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    I use this as my second box and find it pretty good. How often would you need to record/watch something on RTÉ AND TV3 at the same time? Most people manage without a second DVB-T tuner. Let's face it, almost anything on TV3 is also available in HD on ITV.

    It wouldn't be a big issue but if I could stream to the tv in the bedroom from the sitting room box I could put all my cable feeds (2 terrestrial + 2 sat) into the sitting room box.


  • #20
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    You can still use the TVs own tuner to watch Saorview if the box is recording another Saorview.


  • #21
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    It wouldn't be a big issue but if I could stream to the tv in the bedroom from the sitting room box I could put all my cable feeds (2 terrestrial + 2 sat) into the sitting room box.

    Unlike satellite, a twin DVB-T tuner still only needs one coax feed from the aerial. Be aware streaming is like recording. A tuner will be occupied when streaming a channel on your network to another room.


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  • #22
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    Unlike satellite, a twin DVB-T tuner still only needs one coax feed from the aerial. Be aware streaming is like recording. A tuner will be occupied when streaming a channel on your network to another room.

    So in order to stream a channel in the bedroom what is needed. Is an extra box necessary?


  • #23
    decor58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 946 ✭✭✭decor58


    Tigerandahalf wrote:
    If I put the existing sat feed into the freesat box am I good to go if I purchase an all in 1 remote?[/quote

    Had a similar setup, humax hb1100s for recording and sky drx595 for viewing, usb stick in tv for Saorview recordings. Is your tv Saorview, do you need the combo box, I got the humax hdr1100s and the humax remote operates my tv, saves a lot of bother. By the way I have the hb1000 on adverts.


  • #24
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    So in order to stream a channel in the bedroom what is needed. Is an extra box necessary?

    Anyone answer this tor me?


  • #25
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    It's not that an extra box is needed. It's just to be aware that ANY box uses one of its tuners while streaming. It has to get the signal from somewhere so it occupies a tuner as reqd.


  • #26
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    It's not that an extra box is needed. It's just to be aware that ANY box uses one of its tuners while streaming. It has to get the signal from somewhere so it occupies a tuner as reqd.

    I got that Gerry but how does the tv in bedroom connect to the network. Does it have to have wifi adapter/dongle?


  • #27
    Fireball14013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭Fireball14013


    Your best bet is to get an ethernet cable going to your bedroom, and also from your sitting room from your router. Then have your 2 sat and 2 terrestrial tuners in your sitting room box, you can actually use the signal out port on one DVB-T tuner to the Signal In port on the second, so you only need 1 Co-ax from the wall to your box.
    Then, while you can get Apps that connect to Enigma2 to stream your TV, your best bet would be to buy a second Enigma2 box, a cheap one for less than 100. That then can be configured to use the tuners and hard disk on your main box. So it'll appear to the user of it exactly like your main box, even to showing what's recorded. They all come with some tuner, so maybe use a 3rd feed from your satellite to this new box and you'll have 3 sat feeds and 2 terrestrial to share between both boxes and the same recording location.


  • #28
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Fireball14013 wrote: »
    Your best bet is to get an ethernet cable going to your bedroom, and also from your sitting room from your router. Then have your 2 sat and 2 terrestrial tuners in your sitting room box, you can actually use the signal out port on one DVB-T tuner to the Signal In port on the second, so you only need 1 Co-ax from the wall to your box.
    Then, while you can get Apps that connect to Enigma2 to stream your TV, your best bet would be to buy a second Enigma2 box, a cheap one for less than 100. That then can be configured to use the tuners and hard disk on your main box. So it'll appear to the user of it exactly like your main box, even to showing what's recorded. They all come with some tuner, so maybe use a 3rd feed from your satellite to this new box and you'll have 3 sat feeds and 2 terrestrial to share between both boxes and the same recording location.

    If I can't do it over the wifi network I don't think I would bother. It is for very limited use and most of the tv in the bedroom would be watched live.

    I think the sky q system uses an additional box in each extra room.


  • #29
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    ... how does the tv in bedroom connect to the network. Does it have to have wifi adapter/dongle?

    Assuming it's a 'smart' TV in the 1st place, then yes, it will obviously need some way of connecting with the network: if not inbuilt wifi, then dongle or cabled connection.


  • #30
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Assuming it's a 'smart' TV in the 1st place, then yes, it will obviously need some way of connecting with the network: if not inbuilt wifi, then dongle or cabled connection.

    Mine isn't a smart tv just an old HD Ready one. Would that still be ok with the dongle? Is the dongle plugged into usb?


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  • #31
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    If the dongle is just a wifi transceiver, then it won't do anything if the TV has no internet capability.


  • #32
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    If Johnboy1951 is around he might explain how to connect a Raspberry Pi or the likes to it. Any device that has a web browser such as a smart phone, PC, laptop or tablet can access an enigma box on your network. You simply enter the boxes network address into the browser.
    BTW Wifi seldom gives good results streaming HD


  • #33
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    If I can't do it over the wifi network I don't think I would bother. It is for very limited use and most of the tv in the bedroom would be watched live.

    If you can't bring an ethernet cable directly to the box, then a homeplug will often give better results for HD channels than wifi.


  • #34
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Cheers for replies.

    Is anyone thinking of having a freesat box in conjunction with the new Connect box?

    Is there any disadvantage other than having to switch the hdmi inputs? I presume this could be done on a one for all remote.

    I know it would be a pain flicking between both (maybe 10sec delay).


  • #35
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    No one in their right mind would buy a Saorview connect box for €220 and it wont even record


  • #36
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Cheers for replies.

    Is anyone thinking of having a freesat box in conjunction with the new Connect box?

    Is there any disadvantage other than having to switch the hdmi inputs? I presume this could be done on a one for all remote.

    I know it would be a pain flicking between both (maybe 10sec delay).

    A 10 sec delay could become frustrating very quickly I'd imagine. You won't have a combined EPG either, so if you're watching BBC1 but want to "quickly" check what's on RTE1, then that's a 20 sec process.

    No recording (yet) with Connect.


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  • #37
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,076 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    To make a 'non-smart' TV 'smart' is a matter of putting a device before its input that will do the 'smart' stuff for it.
    In fact most such devices are not limited like some TVs are and so give a better experience.

    The output of the device is a HDMI out to the TV.

    The smart device can 'tune in' across the LAN (wifi if signal is good enough and very stable) and deliver its output to the TV.

    Other than that a lot depends on what this smart device is getting the signal from.

    Anyway that is the principle.
    I use R-Pis and NUC as the devices.
    Can also use tablets, phones and PCs etc to grab signals from my backend system (not the same as yours).


  • #38
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Apogee wrote: »
    A 10 sec delay could become frustrating very quickly I'd imagine. You won't have a combined EPG either, so if you're watching BBC1 but want to "quickly" check what's on RTE1, then that's a 20 sec process.

    No recording (yet) with Connect.

    I know. I normally use the tv listings app to see what is on satellite as the epg only has now/next.
    The real problem is when you want to recall quickly between a sat and a saorview channel, e.g. watching 2 different matches to check scores.


  • #39
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    You seem determined to find the most expensive, most awkward solution you can :)

    Get a mid-range combo box and you wont look back or give Sky lots of money to watch the free channels.


  • #40
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,076 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    You seem determined to find the most expensive, most awkward solution you can :)

    Get a mid-range combo box and you wont look back or give Sky lots of money to watch the free channels.

    :)
    Or he could get a Digibit 4 tuner Sat box, a R-Pi and a couple of €10 DVB-T dongles and have them all available on the LAN, for very little more than that connect box ..... with 7 day EPG for all channels!
    :)


  • #41
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    You seem determined to find the most expensive, most awkward solution you can :)

    Get a mid-range combo box and you wont look back or give Sky lots of money to watch the free channels.

    I don't think so !
    I have only heard the positives of the linux boxes thus far and with other people in the house wanting a simple system that is reliable I am looking at all options that won't cause headaches for others.


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  • #42
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    OK so you are happy to pay twice the price for half the functionality on a box that is clearly not fit for market yet. Good luck with that.


  • #43
    Goreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Goreme


    When my Sky+ box went belly up I bought this last November direct from the factory in the UK. Zgemma H2S. It was 79 pounds then, and it now only 65 pounds. My Sky+ box had only FTA and SD channnels at that, so I was throwing money away. This box gave my HD FTA, I just connected a hard drive to the USB input and it then it was pausing live TV and recording series link.

    As for setting it up, you said you have some tech ability, and as others have said, its not too difficult to get these up and running and there are forums which will help you. Also it doesn't crash like my Sky+ box used to do, its very robust.

    https://www.zgemma.co.uk/zgemma-h.2s


  • #44
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Goreme wrote: »
    When my Sky+ box went belly up I bought this last November direct from the factory in the UK. Zgemma H2S. It was 79 pounds then, and it now only 65 pounds. My Sky+ box had only FTA and SD channnels at that, so I was throwing money away. This box gave my HD FTA, I just connected a hard drive to the USB input and it then it was pausing live TV and recording series link.

    As for setting it up, you said you have some tech ability, and as others have said, its not too difficult to get these up and running and there are forums which will help you. Also it doesn't crash like my Sky+ box used to do, its very robust.

    https://www.zgemma.co.uk/zgemma-h.2s

    Ah the inevitable Zgemma suggestion. The manufacturer may have a UK website. They are however made my Air Digital Technology in Shenzhen. They used to make clones of real products. Dont know what design the Zgemma's are based upon!

    I'd read up them and check the plug that came with it has a working earth!

    To the OP, if you are looking for a cheap reliable box not likely to make your house go on fire, go with the established manufacturers. Have a look at the edision minis for example.

    Theres a thread in the foreign satellite forum about e2 boxes.


  • #45
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    If one was to go with the Vu Duo2 does it provide the rte/tv3/tg4 players and some form of rollback epg.

    I have heard lots of positives on these but I'd like to hear what the cons are from people using them.

    That site linked previously is very handy as you can set up the box as you please.

    It does mention dual tuners just like the Saorview Connect.
    If you got both the dual dvb-s2 and dvb-t2 does that mean you have 2 tuners for each?

    It seems the hybrid(iptv?) is the same tuner as the dvb-t2 so does that mean one can't be used if the other is?


  • #46
    Goreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Goreme


    STB. wrote: »
    Goreme wrote: »
    When my Sky+ box went belly up I bought this last November direct from the factory in the UK. Zgemma H2S. It was 79 pounds then, and it now only 65 pounds. My Sky+ box had only FTA and SD channnels at that, so I was throwing money away. This box gave my HD FTA, I just connected a hard drive to the USB input and it then it was pausing live TV and recording series link.

    As for setting it up, you said you have some tech ability, and as others have said, its not too difficult to get these up and running and there are forums which will help you. Also it doesn't crash like my Sky+ box used to do, its very robust.

    https://www.zgemma.co.uk/zgemma-h.2s

    Ah the inevitable Zgemma suggestion.  The manufacturer may have a UK website.  They are however made my Air Digital Technology in Shenzhen.  They used to make clones of real products.  Dont know what design the Zgemma's are based upon!  

    I'd read up them and check the plug that came with it has a working earth!

    To the OP, if you are looking for a cheap reliable box not likely to make your house go on fire, go with the established manufacturers.  Have a look at the edision minis for example.

    Theres a thread in the foreign satellite forum about e2 boxes.
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    You sound very down on the Zgemma. I have one for the 11 months and as I said it has not given me any problems... numerous people use them successfully as a FTA Sat box, with pause, record and series link facility instead of paying a packet to Sky for the FTA, pause and recording functions. This thread was for suggestions for FTA Sat box with EPA alternatives.


  • #47
    Goreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Goreme


    STB. wrote: »
    Goreme wrote: »
    When my Sky+ box went belly up I bought this last November direct from the factory in the UK. Zgemma H2S. It was 79 pounds then, and it now only 65 pounds. My Sky+ box had only FTA and SD channnels at that, so I was throwing money away. This box gave my HD FTA, I just connected a hard drive to the USB input and it then it was pausing live TV and recording series link.

    As for setting it up, you said you have some tech ability, and as others have said, its not too difficult to get these up and running and there are forums which will help you. Also it doesn't crash like my Sky+ box used to do, its very robust.

    https://www.zgemma.co.uk/zgemma-h.2s

    Ah the inevitable Zgemma suggestion.  The manufacturer may have a UK website.  They are however made my Air Digital Technology in Shenzhen.  They used to make clones of real products.  Dont know what design the Zgemma's are based upon!  

    I'd read up them and check the plug that came with it has a working earth!

    To the OP, if you are looking for a cheap reliable box not likely to make your house go on fire, go with the established manufacturers.  Have a look at the edision minis for example.

    Theres a thread in the foreign satellite forum about e2 boxes.
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    You sound very down on the Zgemma. I have one for the 11 months and as I said it has not given me any problems... numerous people use them successfully as a FTA Sat box, with pause, record and series link facility instead of paying a packet to Sky for the FTA, pause and recording functions. This thread was for suggestions for FTA Sat box with EPA alternatives.


  • #48
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Goreme wrote: »
    You sound very down on the Zgemma. I have one for the 11 months and as I said it has not given me any problems... numerous people use them successfully as a FTA Sat box, with pause, record and series link facility instead of paying a packet to Sky for the FTA, pause and recording functions. This thread was for suggestions for FTA Sat box with EPA alternatives.

    I like boxes, hence the name. I'm not a tech snob. I go through many boxes, just for my own amusement, and then sell them on or give them away to friends, when I want to try something else. NAND Flash CPU speed and general build quality are things I look at in even economy price boxes. There are good value bargains to be had in each sector of boxes.

    The OP is looking for a box that does both Saorview and Satellite in one. The Zgemma you linked to is a twin tuner satellite only tuner.

    IMO its touch and go which are worse Zgemma or Sh4 boxes like Amiko.


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