Buying a car in Dublin with Island tax

ahsan225 · 28-01-2018 03:20PM #1

Hi,

I am looking at a car to buy. The current owner has it in donegal and it is taxed with island tax.

Now, i live and will use the car in Dublin where the car will be registered. Is there any problem buying such a car from tax point of view? Is it simply a case of sending the logbook off to Shannon and tax it like any other mainland car when the chsnge of ownership is processed?

Your help is much appreciated here.

Kind regards,
Ahsan

bazz26 · 28-01-2018 03:23PM

My understanding is that once the change of ownership takes place the island motor tax becomes void and you as the new owner who doesn't live on an island, will be required to tax the car.

colm_mcm · 28-01-2018 03:23PM

It should beep the same as buying something with the likes of taxi tax or tax exemption for disability etc, it would automatically change over upon change of ownership.

Obviously with an island car, check the condition carefully, as I think they’re exempt from NCT and of course would be exposed to sea air/water more than most cars.

the new owner who doesn't live on an island

well, technically....

ahsan225 · 28-01-2018 03:25PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

It should beep the same as buying something with the likes of taxi tax or tax exemption for disability etc, it would automatically change over upon change of ownership.

Obviously with an island car, check the condition carefully, as I think they’re exempt from NCT and of course would be exposed to sea air/water more than most cars.

The car has nct till june 2018 and that matches up with the nct website.

colm_mcm · 28-01-2018 03:27PM

I wonder if it was actually in an island!

bizidea · 28-01-2018 03:30PM

Ireland is an island too

nice_guy80 · 28-01-2018 03:32PM

majority of the cars taxed on the islands, are not actually on the islands

island insurance rates too!

delboythedub · 28-01-2018 03:45PM

"Sorry but I thought we all lived on an island".

bazz26 · 28-01-2018 04:05PM

Not for motor tax purposes we don't.

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-01-2018 04:06PM

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Atlantic Dawn · 28-01-2018 04:24PM

Out of interest is the car a petrol or diesel?

Dial Hard · 28-01-2018 04:26PM

My current car was on an island tax basis when I got it. Only copped it when the renewal came out (to my Dublin address) and it was for â‚¬102 for the year. I said nuthin and just sent the form back with my debit card details. Tax disc came back no problem. Renewal came out again the next year for â‚¬102 and I chanced my arm again but unfortunately got someone actually paying attention in the tax office that time cause I got a phone call a week or two later saying the rate was wrong. Paid the difference (for that year only, nothing was said about the previous year) and got a new VLC in the post a couple of weeks later.

colm_mcm · 28-01-2018 04:50PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Out of interest is the car a petrol or diesel?

I don’t think any islands have petrol pumps.

ahsan225 · 28-01-2018 05:24PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don’t think any islands have petrol pumps.

It is a petrol car

Turner · 28-01-2018 05:33PM

If you are going to buy it, it would be worth your while asking the seller to tax it for a year before the sale.

Depending on what size engine it is and if it will be based on the exorbitant private or discriminatory co2 tax class after the sale.

Might save you a few bob

colm_mcm · 28-01-2018 05:33PM

Turner wrote: »

If you are going to buy it, it would be worth your while asking the seller to tax it for a year before the sale.

Depending on what size engine it is and if its based on the private or discriminatory co2 tax class.

Might save you a few bob

It would be illegal to drive it though.

ahsan225 · 28-01-2018 05:36PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

It would be illegal to drive it though.

Its a Renault Megane scenic 1.6l with an 08D plate. I'd rather have it taxed in my name and mainland tax just for peace of mind.

BorneTobyWilde · 28-01-2018 05:37PM

bizidea wrote: »

Ireland is an island too

Loophole , how could one argue its on in a court of law.:D

colm_mcm · 28-01-2018 05:43PM

ahsan225 wrote: »

Its a Renault Megane scenic 1.6l with an 08D plate. I'd rather have it taxed in my name and mainland tax just for peace of mind.

Double check when it was first registered as it may be on a high Co2 tax bracket. Do you know if it’s an import?

Del2005 · 28-01-2018 05:44PM

ahsan225 wrote: »

The car has nct till june 2018 and that matches up with the nct website.

How does a car have an NCT if it has island tax? I thought that the tax was for unattached Islands and they are also NCT exempt.

colm_mcm · 28-01-2018 05:51PM

Is it this one?
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-grand-scenic-2008/17456031

ahsan225 · 28-01-2018 05:52PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is it this one?
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-grand-scenic-2008/17456031

Nope.

uck51js9zml2yt · 28-01-2018 05:57PM

Island tax expires as soon as ownership changes.
You'd need to tax it as a normal car.

Same with ex taxis. The amount of people who bought a taxi and are driving around on an illegal disc...

bizidea · 28-01-2018 08:05PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

It would be illegal to drive it though.

Risk it for a biscuit I would if there's tax on it when you buy it its not your fault.people get too worried about illegal things

bazz26 · 28-01-2018 10:19PM

If only ignorance was a defence.

Turner · 28-01-2018 10:54PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

It would be illegal to drive it though.

Im not sure about that.

The only thing i can find is from Sligo County Council

To tax a vehicle as an Island Vehicle, owner must get an Island Vehicle Certificate certified by the Garda Station nearest to the Island concerned. Island vehicles are not to be used on the mainland. If they are used on the mainland at any time then the vehicle should be taxed at the appropriate private rate

should be taxed at the appropriate private rate is not good enough and does not mean you are breaking the law.

They should provide the offence or link to statute/S.I/penalty.

Im open to correction though if any legal eagles can point me in the right direction.

Del2005 · 28-01-2018 11:16PM

Turner wrote: »

Im not sure about that.

The only thing i can find is from Sligo County Council

To tax a vehicle as an Island Vehicle, owner must get an Island Vehicle Certificate certified by the Garda Station nearest to the Island concerned. Island vehicles are not to be used on the mainland. If they are used on the mainland at any time then the vehicle should be taxed at the appropriate private rate

should be taxed at the appropriate private rate is not good enough and does not mean you are breaking the law.

They should provide the offence or link to statute/S.I/penalty.

Im open to correction though if any legal eagles can point me in the right direction.

The tax is for vehicles used exclusively on an island, so once it hits the mainland the tax isn't valid

"vehicles which are kept and used exclusively on an offshore island to which there is no direct road or bridge access from the mainland"

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/act/22/enacted/en/print.html

Buying a car in Dublin with Island tax

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