Conservatives are afraid.

Klinkhammer · 30-01-2018 01:27AM #1

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-to-turn-conservatives-liberal-john-bargh-psychology-2017-10/amp

So this guy, John Bargh, reckons conservatives who are temporarily relieved of their innate fear will temporarily turn in to liberals. Liberals who do the same experiment do not change their views.

I think there's a lot of sense in this. Using After Hours as a petri dish you have the most vitriol directed towards sections of society people fear the most.

Tom Mann Centuria · 30-01-2018 01:39AM

RDM_83 again · 30-01-2018 01:43AM

Klinkhammer wrote: »

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/how-to-turn-conservatives-liberal-john-bargh-psychology-2017-10/amp

So this guy, John Bargh, reckons conservatives who are temporarily relieved of their innate fear will temporarily turn in to liberals. Liberals who do the same experiment do not change their views.

I think there's a lot of sense in this. Using After Hours as a petri dish you have the most vitriol directed towards sections of society people fear the most.

Like everything that sounds to be good to be true, it probably is.

His work sounds very similar to Diederik Stapel who was producing experiments that couldn't be replicated by others.

This blog seems to indicate his work may have similar issues (blog has links).

Basically this is likely clickbait feelgood Science that will probably get written up by HuffPost but when a serious researcher tries to replicate it using proper control groups and the scientific method it will turn out to be rubish

seenitall · 30-01-2018 02:44AM

Conservatives are always afraid. Isn't that the whole point of being a conservative?

riffmongous · 30-01-2018 03:21AM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

When it comes to putting the fear in conservatives through liberal social policies

(come on starship troopers thread)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-01-2018 03:24AM

A conservative is basically a scared liberal in the first place. Just mention 'multiculturalism' and see what happens.

Donald Trump · 30-01-2018 03:31AM

Didn't quite work in practice for the people who thought they were Ubermenschen ................

Sure I used to be a Democrat and then I started listening to the Neo Nazi's Republicans

Pepefrogok · 30-01-2018 03:37AM

But we are more beautiful!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/01/27/science-says-conservatives-are-hotter-than-liberals/amp/

This is backed up by looking at any protest/screem at the sky session! Mabey that's what we are scared off! That our women will put a pile of weight on and start dying their hair multiple colours?

Here is a nice science based video to help explain!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNkg78D5iqI

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-01-2018 03:38AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Didn't quite work in practice for the people who thought they were Ubermenschen ................

Sure I used to be a Democrat and then I started listening to the Neo Nazi's Republicans

They were never relieved if their fear.

riffmongous · 30-01-2018 03:47AM

Pepefrogok wrote: »

But we are more beautiful!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/01/27/science-says-conservatives-are-hotter-than-liberals/amp/

This is backed up by looking at any protest/screem at the sky session! Mabey that's what we are scared off! That our women will put a pile of weight on and start dying their hair multiple colours?

Conservative science? Frankly I find the idea of a conservative that thinks critically offensive

Pepefrogok · 30-01-2018 04:07AM

riffmongous wrote: »

Conservative science? Frankly I find the idea of a conservative that thinks critically offensive

Look at the evidence man!!!!!

https://youtu.be/jNkg78D5iqI

But also try and avoid any mirrors!

Seriously though, when you look at the "women" on the pro-refugee crowd i wonder is it more about increasing their chances of finding an amorous young gentleman willing to lie with a multi coloured hair land whale? Mabey more generally speaking that's why liberals want to change society so much? They look around at all the happy, beautiful conservative families and know they will never experience that joy so as a socialist wants everyone to be equally poor they want everyone to be equally miserable?

Arghus · 30-01-2018 04:08AM

It's an ugly planet. It's a conservative planet.

riffmongous · 30-01-2018 04:22AM

Pepefrogok wrote: »

Look at the evidence man!!!!!

https://youtu.be/jNkg78D5iqI

But also try and avoid any mirrors!

Seriously though, when you look at the "women" on the pro-refugee crowd i wonder is it more about increasing their chances of finding an amorous young gentleman willing to lie with a multi coloured hair land whale? Mabey more generally speaking that's why liberals want to change society so much? They look around at all the happy, beautiful conservative families and know they will never experience that joy so as a socialist wants everyone to be equally poor they want everyone to be equally miserable?

The only good conservative is a dead conservative

Pepefrogok · 30-01-2018 04:26AM

riffmongous wrote: »

The only good conservative is a dead conservative

Hey, that escalated quickly lol still, evidence from top universities shows that even a 10 year dead conservative will look better than your non gender defined partner! Certainly weigh less.

Ulysses Gaze · 30-01-2018 06:20AM

A liberal is just a conservative that has not been mugged yet.

emo72 · 30-01-2018 07:09AM

I've no idea what anyone is on about anymore. It's a different language.

Wanderer78 · 30-01-2018 07:44AM

emo72 wrote:

I've no idea what anyone is on about anymore. It's a different language.

We should all start using Irish (via Google translate of course), be some laugh!

Franz Von Peppercorn · 30-01-2018 08:59AM

Everybody’s afraid of something. Liberals are afraid of climate change. And Russia. Conservatives used to be afraid of Russia but are now not afraid of either Russia or climate change. Lesbians are a fear point.

rgodard80a · 30-01-2018 09:24AM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

A liberal is just a conservative that has not been mugged yet.

Or had their sister nearly abducted, credit card skimmed, punched on a bus etc...

Liberalism costs hard earned tax payers money and people have a right to question immigration, refugee and social welfare policy.

Wanderer78 · 30-01-2018 09:27AM

rgodard80a wrote: »

Or had their sister nearly abducted, credit card skimmed, punched on a bus etc...

Liberalism costs hard earned tax payers money and people have a right to question immigration, refugee and social welfare policy.

id be more inclined to point the finger at neoliberial policies for the issues you have mentioned

silverharp · 30-01-2018 09:37AM

what about the other one that conservatives are better looking than liberals...discuss?

seamus · 30-01-2018 09:41AM

silverharp wrote: »

what about the other one that conservatives are better looking than liberals...discuss?

It would make sense that people who've grown up automatically privileged would err on the side on conservatism, since liberalism presents social and personal scenarios that are scary and unfamiliar to them.

And people who've grown up privileged would have better health, and better access to beauty products.

Not rocket science really.

biko · 30-01-2018 10:25AM

Sure, you can do all the experiments you want. The article also describes how to make liberals conservative.
What matters is what real people out there in the real world think.

If conservatism, right-wing and alt-right is spreading it is indicative that regular people worry about lefty and liberal policies imposed on them by their governments and EU, politicians that do not have to live with the consequences of their actions.

The_Valeyard · 30-01-2018 10:30AM

Swings and roundabouts, conservatives become liberals, liberals become conservative and a lot of people simply stay put in the middle.

Hande hoche! · 30-01-2018 11:15AM

Conservatism is caused by fear, Liberalism is a mental disorder. Is centrism caused by parental factors or anxiety?

pumpkin4life · 30-01-2018 12:09PM

seamus wrote: »

It would make sense that people who've grown up automatically privileged would err on the side on conservatism, since liberalism presents social and personal scenarios that are scary and unfamiliar to them.

And people who've grown up privileged would have better health, and better access to beauty products.

Not rocket science really.

Jordan Peterson's done some interesting things on this in terms of personality and companies and work.

In terms of organizational structure, people who are liberal tend to be more creative and open to new experiences, but make poorer workers, work less and are more prone to mental illnesses. Your entrepreneur or your tortured artist type of lad. Conservative people don't come up with much in terms of great ideas, but they keep those great ideas running properly.

Companies without either personality type tend to collapse.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-01-2018 01:58PM

Never surprises me when conservatives attack liberals, they rarely actually attack liberal policies (or only attack the broad extreme ones)...

Pepefrogok · 30-01-2018 02:07PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Never surprises me when conservatives attack liberals, they rarely actually attack liberal policies (or only attack the broad extreme ones)...

Lol ok, in a thread calling all conservatives afraid where one delightful poster quipped "the only good conservative is a dead conservative" you ignore the near constant attacks on liberal policies like open/weak boarders, identity politics, multiculturalism, welfare state etc etc etc etc to make that massively hypocritical post, fantastic work, you do you!

Odhinn · 30-01-2018 02:12PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Everybody’s afraid of something. Liberals are afraid of climate change. And Russia. Conservatives used to be afraid of Russia but are now not afraid of either Russia or climate change. Lesbians are a fear point.

Everyones scared of the lesbians. Except maybe the lesbians.

suicide_circus · 30-01-2018 02:15PM

In an american context at least, conservatives are also the ones with all the guns.

sbsquarepants · 30-01-2018 02:18PM

Is this not stating the obvious - if you weren't afraid of change you would be a bloody conservative!

Conservatives are afraid.

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