Kuznetsov Drydock sinks

knucklehead6 · 30-10-2018 09:59AM #1

Apparently the Admiral Kuznetsov is after being damaged when the dry dock he's being refurbished in sank.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1038209/russia-news-navy-carrier-admiral-kuznetsov-murmansk-shipyard-accident

sparky42 · 30-10-2018 02:55PM

This honestly doesn't surprise me.

sparky42 · 31-10-2018 02:12PM

So the docks pumps jammed on while filling the tanks, and it's now under 160 foot of water, be interesting to see the impact on the Russian navies capabilities. Also this is the same dock that had the SSBN fire a few years back.
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24572/russias-dry-dock-accident-could-have-far-larger-repercussions-than-a-damaged-carrier

Tabnabs · 31-10-2018 02:13PM

Some good news in that one of the cranes was saved, by virtue of falling onto the deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov and both being transferred to another shipyard. :pac:

sparky42 · 31-10-2018 02:17PM

Tabnabs wrote: »

Some good news in that one of the cranes was saved, by virtue of falling onto the deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov and both being transferred to another shipyard. :pac:

Do they have another one for a hull the size of him?

ED E · 31-10-2018 02:20PM

Excuse the noob question but are ships not normally addressed as female?

Tabnabs · 31-10-2018 02:25PM

sparky42 wrote: »

Do they have another one for a hull the size of him?

Apparently they do, so just a delay to the repairs rather than a halt.

A photo of the crane lying on the deck.

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sparky42 · 31-10-2018 03:34PM

ED E wrote: »

Excuse the noob question but are ships not normally addressed as female?

Western Navies yes, but Russia addresses them as male.

sparky42 · 01-11-2018 11:20PM

Tabnabs wrote: »

Apparently they do, so just a delay to the repairs rather than a halt.

A photo of the crane lying on the deck.

Seems a bit conflicted, a russian article I translated through Google suggested the only one in "European Russia" is taking up with one of their Battlecruisers that's been in it since '06 and would need widening to the approaches for the carrier. Moreover that article contradicts the first info, that in fact the refit was only starting and access holes had been cut and he shipped several thousand tons of water onboard with the engine spaces flooded out perhaps...

Tabnabs · 02-11-2018 09:58AM

The dock I have seen discussed is at Severodvinsk in Arkhangelsk.

sparky42 · 02-11-2018 04:20PM

Tabnabs wrote: »

The dock I have seen discussed is at Severodvinsk in Arkhangelsk.

The Sevmash one? That's the one that has Admiral Nakhimov in it and he's not meant to leave till at least 2021 (and I wouldn't put money on that), and needs work on the approaches according to that Russian article (though it could be wrong).

Either way the loss of this dock has potential serious ramifications for the Russian Navy.

jonnybigwallet · 05-11-2018 04:55PM

A very seious state of affairs!

tac foley · 07-11-2018 08:13PM

Nothing trivial, I hope.

sparky42 · 07-11-2018 08:25PM

tac foley wrote: »

Nothing trivial, I hope.

Not by the sounds of it, don't think we'll be seeing him around for a while.

Victor · 07-11-2018 08:50PM

knucklehead6 wrote: »

Drydock

It seems it was a floating dock. Possibly this one: https://www.google.ie/maps/@69.0599709,33.1979959,1120m/data=!3m1!1e3

Huge number of civilian and military ships, including some other floating docks (one appears sunk) and sunken hulks within Kola Bay.

sparky42 · 09-11-2018 04:06PM

So even the Russians are admitting the refit will be "delayed", no **** lads:
https://thediplomat.com/2018/11/russia-admits-that-it-cant-retrofit-aircraft-carrier-after-accident/

tac foley · 09-11-2018 04:48PM

sparky42 wrote: »

Either way the loss of this dock has potential serious ramifications for the Russian Navy.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

sparky42 · 09-11-2018 05:08PM

tac foley wrote: »

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

Not disagreeing with you, be interesting to see who they can get to bring the Dock up again? If it's down for over a year I wonder how much work it would need just to be restored to operations.

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