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Would you like to attend a housing protest?

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  • #122
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    The poor people?

    Margaret Cash is in 50,000 a year and is in social housing.

    Do you call 50,000 poor?

    No problem with genuine people who aren’t layabout spongers.

    The rest, I do.

    The obsession extreme-right-wingers have with that woman is fucking bizarre.


  • #123
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,214 ✭✭✭Allinall


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Thousands of poor people go to food banks and soup kitchens throughout the country.

    And get fed for free.

    So their not starving.


  • #124
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    There's a segment of our population that will get free healthcare and free/heavily subsidised housing throughout their lives.

    And they will never contribute a cent to the Exchequer, except through VAT.

    The middle class in Ireland carry most of the country.

    Pensioners, the disabled, the chronically ill yes get free healthcare and social housing.

    The middle class are doing quite well in this country, if they feel peeved off they need to have a look up the ladder rather than down the ladder.


  • #125
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    The obsession extreme-right-wingers have with that woman is fucking bizarre.

    The obsession left wing nut jobs have with landlords in this country is bizarre.


  • #126
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Thousands of poor people go to food banks and soup kitchens throughout the country.

    €188 a week isn’t enough to buy them food for the week??


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  • #127
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Allinall wrote: »
    And get fed for free.

    So their not starving.

    What a heartless post. Those people are relying on charities to feed them for their next meal. If the charities did not exist, they will die. I suggest you trot the streets of our capital city tonight to see the mobile soup kitchens feeding the starving.


  • #128
    [Deleted User]
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    klaaaz wrote: »
    Pensioners, the disabled, the chronically ill yes get free healthcare and social housing.

    The middle class are doing quite well in this country, if they feel peeved off they need to have a look up the ladder rather than down the ladder.

    So, you’re ok with supporting people who will never take responsibility for themselves. eg Margaret Cash or that woman at the weekend who is sharing a bedroom with 5 children, 2 of them born in the last 18 months, while living in the same situation.


  • #129
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    €188 a week isn’t enough to buy them food for the week??

    A person does not get 188 without an address, you knew that already. If they do have an address and get that amount, they have to pay "in hand" over the HAP amount awarded to the landlord to keep a roof over their head, they cannot afford to feed themselves as the wealthy landlords are extracting every last cent out of them.


  • #130
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    The obsession left wing nut jobs have with landlords in this country is bizarre.

    Leeches. Exploiting a basic need and taking advantage of a shortage to fleece people and line their own pockets.


  • #131
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,214 ✭✭✭Allinall


    klaaaz wrote: »
    What a heartless post. Those people are relying on charities to feed them for their next meal. If the charities did not exist, they will die. I suggest you trot the streets of our capital city tonight to see the mobile soup kitchens feeding the starving.

    I’ve done that very thing- made food parcels and helped distribute them.

    No one I saw was starving.

    If I didn’t eat I would die. Doesn’t mean I’m starving.


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  • #132
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Good God no. Mainly because it would involve associating with the sort of people who protest. They are dispicable. The plague of our time. The irony is that protesters see themselves and protesting as part of the solution. Instead, both are part of the problem. A protest is just a group of people having a mass moan instead of doing something positive to improve matters. Down with that sort of thing. Is there a lower life in Ireland today than the protester ?


  • #133
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So, you’re ok with supporting people who will never take responsibility for themselves. eg Margaret Cash or that woman at the weekend who is sharing a bedroom with 5 children, 2 of them born in the last 18 months, while living in the same situation.

    Another that has an obsession with that woman. Where is your obsession with REIT's and wealthy individuals exploiting the housing needs of a few million people?


  • #134
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    klaaaz wrote: »
    A person does not get 188 without an address, you knew that already. If they do have an address and get that amount, they have to pay "in hand" over the HAP amount awarded to the landlord to keep a roof over their head, they cannot afford to feed themselves as the wealthy landlords are extracting every last cent out of them.

    “Your entitlement to social welfare payments is not affected by the fact of being homeless” - from Citizens Information website.

    Looks like one of us know what we are talking about and one doesn’t.


  • #135
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    The obsession left wing nut jobs have with landlords in this country is bizarre.

    Landlords aren't the problem - they're only making hay while the sun shines. Margaret Cash also isn't the problem - she's merely a Trojan horse used by the likes of you for the sole purpose of shutting down discussion.


  • #136
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Good God no. Mainly because it would involve associating with the sort of people who protest. They are dispicable. The plague of our time. The irony is that protesters see themselves and protesting as part of the solution. Instead, both are part of the problem. A protest is just a group of people having a mass moan instead of doing something positive to improve matters. Down with that sort of thing. Is there a lower life in Ireland today than the protester ?

    You do realise that this country has seen protests which actually succeed in changing government policy, right? What was that about protesters just having a moan?


  • #137
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Landlords aren't the problem - they're only making hay while the sun shines.

    They're choosing to exploit people even though they know that it's screwing peoples' quality of life.


  • #138
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Another that has an obsession with that woman. Where is your obsession with REIT's and wealthy individuals exploiting the housing needs of a few million people?

    Nothing wrong with people taking responsibility for themselves and making a living. More should try it.


  • #139
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    They're choosing to exploit people even though they know that it's screwing peoples' quality of life.

    Exploit? It’s supply and demand.


  • #140
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    You do realise that this country has seen protests which actually succeed in changing government policy, right? What was that about protesters just having a moan?

    I have. They were akin to a mass shooting in the foot.
    It was.


  • #141
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Exploit? It’s supply and demand.

    And that shouldn't apply to basic needs like housing. It's morally wrong and it should be changed by government policy - hence the protest.

    Just because something is fact, doesn't make it right. These people choose to charge as much as they can get away with, rather than considering how hard that's making life for people who are having to blow massive proportions of their income on rent. That's a choice to do something scummy. They could choose to be decent about it if they gave a sh!t about anyone other than themselves.


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  • #142
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    “Your entitlement to social welfare payments is not affected by the fact of being homeless” - from Citizens Information website.

    Looks like one of us know what we are talking about and one doesn’t.

    Nice snip, why didn't you show the whole sentence???
    Your entitlement to social welfare payments is not affected by the fact of being homeless but you may have difficulty getting your payments, mainly because of not having a permanent address.

    Looks like one of us know what we are talking about and one doesn’t


  • #143
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,555 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Leeches. Exploiting a basic need and taking advantage of a shortage to fleece people and line their own pockets.

    I agree to an extent, but again its the government presiding over this disgrace, housing is far too important to just adopt this 'survival' of the fittest approach etc! Let these warren buffet wannabes actually create wealth from something other than the most basic human need, do something that actually requires smarts, rather than simply being in the fortunate position of being able to gouge others, often through inheritances or right place , right time etc!

    Many low to middle income earners are totally f**cked, because of government desire of increasing prices, of course they have to be seen to be doing something though! LOL! They'll give you back less than a euro a week in USC cut on 30,000 and at the same time, rents and property prices continue to rise, eroding living standards, but yeah, if youre a worker, vote FG! :rolleyes: banana republic


  • #144
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with people taking responsibility for themselves and making a living. More should try it.

    Another one in their ivory tower who believes high rents and high house prices are good....for themselves.


  • #145
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,555 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Originally Posted by Maryanne84 View Post
    Nothing wrong with people taking responsibility for themselves and making a living. More should try it.

    Typical I'm alright Jack brigage, the laughable thing is, that these posters , if they wanted to live in Dublin now, likely wouldnt have a hope of buying their properties now or would be sharing in some kip! laughable!


  • #146
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Nice snip, why didn't you show the whole sentence???



    Looks like one of us know what we are talking about and one doesn’t

    You stated “A person does not get 188 without an address”, the sentence I posted stated that you can. It states that it may be more difficult, but doesn’t say you cannot get it. You were still wrong.


  • #147
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    You stated “A person does not get 188 without an address”, the sentence I posted stated that you can. It states that it’s more difficult, but doesn’t say you cannot get it. You were still wrong.

    They don't get 188 without an address. Their only hope is the hostel if the social accepts that address, many don't accept.
    But you knew all this with your empathy for the poor in our society! :rolleyes:


  • #148
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    And that shouldn't apply to basic needs like housing. It's morally wrong and it should be changed by government policy - hence the protest.

    Just because something is fact, doesn't make it right. These people choose to charge as much as they can get away with, rather than considering how hard that's making life for people who are having to blow massive proportions of their income on rent. That's a choice to do something scummy. They could choose to be decent about it if they gave a sh!t about anyone other than themselves.

    So banks are exploiting us too with mortgages and interest?

    Right so let’s say we agree.

    What’s next?

    No mortgages.

    Grand, so who pays for the houses if the banks and landlords don’t?

    The government?

    Grand where does the money come from for the government to pay for everyone’s house?????

    I’ll await your answer but don’t expect much...


  • #149
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Another that has an obsession with that woman. Where is your obsession with REIT's and wealthy individuals exploiting the housing needs of a few million people?

    Most wealthy people were productive with their lives, this creates wealth which helps the country overall, the likes of Mrs cash exist to suck off wealth creators, her and her vile thirty thousand plus clan.


  • #150
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    You do realise that this country has seen protests which actually succeed in changing government policy, right? What was that about protesters just having a moan?

    Right wing boot lickers hate seeing people acting collectively for government action of social or economic issues.


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  • #151
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Most wealthy people were productive with their lives, this creates wealth which helps the country overall, the likes of Mrs cash exist to suck off wealth creators, her and her vile thirty thousand plus clan.

    Charging extortionate rents on thousands of homes and buying up all the property at the expense of the ordinary person is a "productive" wealthy economic activity which helps no-one but themselves . Nothing to do with Ms Cash, you need to direct you ire up the ladder rather than down the ladder.


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