Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Waterford acid attack

135678

Comments

  • #62
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    When the politicians are at your door, ask them where they stand on crime, the judiciary and the lack of prison spaces.
    If we don't invest in prison space, the judges will continue with soft sentences.
    I'd be happy to pay taxes for more prison space if it meant taking dangerous people off the streets.
    Push your politicians.


  • #63
    Calltocall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭Calltocall


    irishproduce wrote: »
    When the politicians are at your door, ask them where they stand on crime, the judiciary and the lack of prison spaces.
    If we don't invest in prison space, the judges will continue with soft sentences.
    I'd be happy to pay taxes for more prison space if it meant taking dangerous people off the streets.
    Push your politicians.

    Agreed 100%, it just never seems to be high up on the agenda of the day, I guess it’s one of those things, nothing like that ever happened to me so I don’t really care until it actually does and you see the **** walk away with a smile and a suspended sentence


  • #64
    klaaaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    Calltocall wrote: »
    Agreed 100%, it just never seems to be high up on the agenda of the day, I guess it’s one of those things, nothing like that ever happened to me so I don’t really care until it actually does and you see the **** walk away with a smile and a suspended sentence

    Alot of the political elite(the upper class) don't experience crime like the average person, they are so far removed from reality. Tax cuts only benefit the rich as they don't experience crime on the same level like the rest of us plebs.


  • #65
    Dr Brown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    The people who carry out these sort of attacks are not criminals but animals and should be put down after they are convicted.


  • #66
    dd973
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    F**king dismal when the world has come to this, for some reason we're hearing less about the London ones so hopefully they're abating.


  • Advertisement
  • #67
    Dr Brown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    The old elephant in the room is that acid attacks are part and parcel of the grime music scene in London and other English cities. You’d hope this is an isolated incident, and not symptomatic of a wider trend.




    We should have a zero tolerance policy for this sort of "culture".


    If we don't get a handle on Immigration Ireland will end up like London in terms of acid attacks.


  • #68
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I find it remarkable that people even think they should be let out of prison.

    It's easy to shoot someone. It isn't easy to throw acid and disfigure someone for life. If you are capable of doing the latter, you should never see daylight again. Solitary confinement for life so they can't harm others. Anything else is nonsensical imo.


  • #69
    iamstop
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    The old elephant in the room is that acid attacks are part and parcel of the grime music scene in London and other English cities. You’d hope this is an isolated incident, and not symptomatic of a wider trend.

    Can you back that up with some evidence please?

    https://open.spotify.com/album/69JKwCcZGdLqX4Upj3DwP7



  • #70
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    The old elephant in the room is that acid attacks are part and parcel of the grime music scene in London and other English cities. You’d hope this is an isolated incident, and not symptomatic of a wider trend.

    I don’t know is it not drill now as a successor to the grime? ..you know looking at these teens hiding their identities whilst muttering explicit threats reminds me the Al Quaeda terrorist music videos; such as Dirty Kuffar and it appears just so alien to us here in old Ireland.....


    I mean it’s not the Frank & Walters. Far from it and I’m surprised it’s permitted under the category of music as that’s clearly not their motivation but we can see amidst our own plenty of Afro-Irish spilling out of the woodwork in imitating this movement... with one of the more prolific groups rather chillingly under the guise of New Eire but t’s startling; really and it’s hard to come to terms with.


  • #71
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,726 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    irishproduce wrote: »
    When the politicians are at your door, ask them where they stand on crime, the judiciary and the lack of prison spaces.
    If we don't invest in prison space, the judges will continue with soft sentences.
    I'd be happy to pay taxes for more prison space if it meant taking dangerous people off the streets.
    Push your politicians.

    In the Uk the majority of young offenders are guys who have already served a prison sentence. The public health approach has been shown to be the best way at preventing crime, not incarceration.

    Now, that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be prison sentences in some cases. An acid attack like this warrants it. But in general we do less to prevent crime than we do to punish offenders after the fact. We need to do both.


  • Advertisement
  • #72
    rgodard80a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    Thats awful. Poor fellas way too young and innocent

    Are they 100% innocent though?
    I completely agree this is a horrific life changing attack.

    But what was the motive behind it.
    I'd be very surprised if it was a random attack.

    Are they in a gang, involved in drugs, owed someone money for drugs,
    involved in anti-social behaviour, was someone badly bullied and snapped, etc...

    Always two sides to the story.
    Not condoning the attack AT ALL and it should be considered at the highest end of the scale of grevious bodily harm.

    But we only heard one side, haven't heard the "why".


  • #73
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    This kind of thing is common in the third world, very worrying to hear it being used here in Ireland. I hope a speedy recovery for the victims.


  • #74
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    We should have a zero tolerance policy for this sort of "culture".


    If we don't get a handle on Immigration Ireland will end up like London in terms of acid attacks.




    You've evidence that immigrants were involved?


  • #75
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    Some interesting statistics on acid attacks.

    IMG-20190501-120807.jpg

    IMG-20190501-120803.jpgnbt bank customer service

    IMG-20190501-120759.jpg

    IMG-20190501-120754.jpg


  • #76
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    Odhinn wrote: »
    You've evidence that immigrants were involved?

    Don't be naive.


  • #77
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    gaelwave wrote: »
    Some interesting statistics on acid attacks.

    ^^^ Where are you getting this info from and what country is it in relation to?
    What the hell is a 'dark European'?


  • #78
    Ashbourne hoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    A scummy, cowardly thing to do to someone. Hopefully long prison sentences are given.


  • #79
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    ^^^ Where are you getting this info from and what country is it in relation to?
    What the hell is a 'dark European'?




    Saw that and went WTF meself.


  • #80
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    gaelwave wrote: »
    Don't be naive.




    Again - do you have some evidence or information that "immigrants" were involved?


  • #81
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Again - do you have some evidence or information that "immigrants" were involved?

    Do you believe that no immigrants were involved?


  • Advertisement
  • #82
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    ^^^ Where are you getting this info from and what country is it in relation to?
    What the hell is a 'dark European'?

    I'd imagine a black European or Afro-European


  • #83
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    gaelwave wrote: »
    Do you believe that no immigrants were involved?


    I haven't a clue one way or another.



    Could you be as good as to provide a link to the source of the information you posted here?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110069530&postcount=75


  • #84
    valoren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭valoren


    This requires a heavy handed approach with a mandatory long prison sentence.

    I think if word got around such as "Did you hear about the fellas in Waterford who threw acid in peoples faces? They got 15 years in prison" then I am pretty confident you would very quickly see a dramatic drop in acid attacks.

    Maybe it's time localised judicial appointments require voting approval by the public instead of appointment by voted in politicians. Throwing acid/chemicals into people's faces goes beyond politics.


  • #85
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I haven't a clue one way or another.



    Could you be as good as to provide a link to the source of the information you posted here?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110069530&postcount=75

    I didn't fact check it, I seen it online. I'd imagine it is easy enough verified I will get back to you on that.


  • #86
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    gaelwave wrote: »
    I didn't fact check it, I seen it online. I'd imagine it is easy enough verified I will get back to you on that.


    Don't need it verified thanks, just a link back to where it was sourced originally.


  • #87
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Don't need it verified thanks, just a link back to where it was sourced originally.

    I didn't source it, I'll find out and let you know.


  • #88
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭circadian


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    We should have a zero tolerance policy for this sort of "culture".


    If we don't get a handle on Immigration Ireland will end up like London in terms of acid attacks.

    Maybe you should stick to YouTube where you don't have to thinly viel your racism with the use of "culture" or whatever else.

    Has there been any publication of the people who done this?


  • #89
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In cases like this, I’d be fully in favour of hobbling and forced hard labour with mandatory sentencing to force judges to do what justice demands.

    Or let the people apply justice to scum like this on the streets. If they’re guilty, name them. Brand them. Tattoo their crimes on their forehead and leave them marked for life.


  • #90
    gaelwave
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭gaelwave


    circadian wrote: »
    Maybe you should stick to YouTube where you don't have to thinly viel your racism with the use of "culture" or whatever else.

    Has there been any publication of the people who done this?

    No but I think it's fair enough for people to speculate that immigrants are involved when this is a rare occurence in Ireland and seems to be along with knives one of the favoured weapons of the London gangs.

    A certain section of our black community seem to be imitating these gangs.


  • Advertisement
  • #91
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    gaelwave wrote: »
    No but I think it's fair enough for people to speculate that immigrants are involved when this is a rare occurence in Ireland and seems to be along with knives one of the favoured weapons of the London gangs.






    ...or some eejit could have seen it on the TV/in the papers and thought it a good idea to put the fear of god in people.


Advertisement