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  • Posts: 24,713 [Deleted User]
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    ChewyLouie wrote: »
    JP was on Twitter giving out about the market being closed over social distancing. I'd be very wary of going near any of his restaurants for a while.

    https://twitter.com/mistereatgalway/status/1264222119317180416?s=19

    He is a pain in the hole at the best of times, not surprised to see him in the “opened it up and feck the consequences” camp on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 427 45mhrc7evo1d3n
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    He is a pain in the hole at the best of times, not surprised to see him in the “opened it up and feck the consequences” camp on this.


    You are putting words in his mouth. I think he makes a fair point about what’s going on inside supermarkets and shops like Woodies. Customers are made to queue 2 metres apart outside but it’s a free for all when they get inside. People are not socially distanced when they are in the aisles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,463 Mrs OBumble
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    ChewyLouie wrote: »
    JP was on Twitter giving out about the market being closed over social distancing. I'd be very wary of going near any of his restaurants for a while.

    https://twitter.com/mistereatgalway/status/1264222119317180416?s=19

    Having seen his beard, I'm not sure how he expects a face mask to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ChewyLouie
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    You are putting words in his mouth. I think he makes a fair point about what’s going on inside supermarkets and shops like Woodies. Customers are made to queue 2 metres apart outside but it’s a free for all when they get inside. People are not socially distanced when they are in the aisles.

    Social distancing not being adhered to inside some shops isn't a valid reason to allow a market to ignore social distancing.


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    ChewyLouie wrote: »
    Social distancing not being adhered to inside some shops isn't a valid reason to allow a market to ignore social distancing.

    Now you're putting words in my mouth. I would like to see all shopping facilities adhering to social distancing protocols. The point is that all such facilities should be subject to the same rules. Its unfair for one outdoor venue to be policed when other indoor venues aren't. Simples.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 biko
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    Moved to own thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 cooperguy
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    Is it not fair to call out a double standard being applied to two different types of shops?

    Certainly "being wary" of his restaurants is a bit extreme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 JoeA3
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    He's a polarising individual and has come out with some mad stuff in the past, he's certainly not afraid of upsetting a few snowflakes.

    On this occasion I 100% agree with him. The "rules" are all over the place.

    I like his restaurants, I'd love an evening out in Cava again, hopefully soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 Wompa1
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    JoeA3 wrote: »
    He's a polarising individual and has come out with some mad stuff in the past, he's certainly not afraid of upsetting a few snowflakes.

    On this occasion I 100% agree with him. The "rules" are all over the place.

    I like his restaurants, I'd love an evening out in Cava again, hopefully soon.

    Hard to take you seriously when you come out with dog whistle sh1te like that.

    <snip>. Obviously this is a very stressful time, particularly for those who make their income in the service industry.

    I don't agree with his take on this at all. It's coming from a bit of a selfish place, in my opinion but I can understand why he feels the way he does.

    It seems like the council may be working on allowing more outdoor seating, hopefully that will help a little.




  • ChewyLouie wrote: »
    JP was on Twitter giving out about the market being closed over social distancing. I'd be very wary of going near any of his restaurants for a while.

    https://twitter.com/mistereatgalway/status/1264222119317180416?s=19

    Why would you be wary of going to his restaurants for a while?

    And it is less transmissible outdoors than indoors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 cooperguy
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    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I don't agree with his take on this at all. It's coming from a bit of a selfish place, in my opinion but I can understand why he feels the way he does.

    It seems completely reasonable to me. There is different guidance from the WHO on social distancing (1 metre) and shopping centres seem to be held to a different standard again.

    Considering what is feasible and realistic from a business perspective is important when in reality guidelines are set somewhat arbitrarily to begin with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 Whereisgalway
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    Jp has a horse in the race, and has shown many times that he’s looking to make maximum profit. <snip, rumour>




  • Jp has a horse in the race, and has shown many times that he’s looking to make maximum profit. <snip, rumour>

    Everyone has a horse in the race.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 Whereisgalway
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    Everyone has a horse in the race.

    In the service industry? No they don’t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 inisboffin
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    If the race is being at the mercy of pandemic decisions, then yes, the majority DO have a horse in the race. Depends what race you mean.

    JP spouts off a lot and some of it I despair at, but his point about inconsistent rules grows stronger by the day.
    It reflects where lobbying groups are strongest or financially more connected too. When rules make no sense to more and more people, sadly 'disobedience' for the ones that do will happen as well as people will lump all these decisions together.


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    cooperguy wrote: »
    It seems completely reasonable to me. There is different guidance from the WHO on social distancing (1 metre) and shopping centres seem to be held to a different standard again.

    Considering what is feasible and realistic from a business perspective is important when in reality guidelines are set somewhat arbitrarily to begin with.

    Someone from WHO was on the radio this morning:
    The World Health Organization's Special Envoy on Covid-19, Dr David Nabarro, has said two-metre distance guidance "keeps you safe 99% of the time", but you can "greatly reduce your risk by maintaining a one-metre distance".

    Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Sarah McInerney, Dr Nabarro said that 70% of droplets from a person's cough will travel within one metre, and that "very few of them travel further than two metres".

    "The WHO and others have said the best distance to keep away from people if you want to avoid inhaling a droplet is two metres.

    "That's because that will keep you safe 99% of the time but you can greatly reduce risk even at one metre because 70% of the droplets will stick within one metre."

    And our health experts have said they are reviewing it. It's not a decision that should be taken lightly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,054 Arghus
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    His reasoning is faulty.

    So because something isn't being practiced safely in some places, we should also let it be practiced unsafely elsewhere too?


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    Arghus wrote: »
    His reasoning is faulty.
    So because something isn't being practiced safely in some places, we should also let it be practiced unsafely elsewhere too?

    On the other hand, if the limit isn't being observed indoors & outdoors, closing down the outdoor space shunts people into the more risky indoor space.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,463 Mrs OBumble
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    On the other hand, if the limit isn't being observed indoors & outdoors, closing down the outdoor space shunts people into the more risky indoor space.

    Nope. They went from a risky outdoor space back to their own homes.

    Galway market is leisure shopping, not household essentials.


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    Arghus wrote: »
    His reasoning is faulty.

    So because something isn't being practiced safely in some places, we should also let it be practiced unsafely elsewhere too?

    He’s looking to be able fill his restaurants with as many people as possible for maximum profit.


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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    On the other hand, if the limit isn't being observed indoors & outdoors, closing down the outdoor space shunts people into the more risky indoor space.

    On the other hand food shopping is vital, coffee or food from a stall is far from it

    There needs to be a big push on supermarkets, from what I'm hearing things are a bit of a free for all. Guards should really be doing spot checks and putting the foot down but closing a food shop is difficult, though it has been done especially at the start of lock down where supermarkets in the east had to be shut by the guards due to queues etc.

    The level of complacently is astonishing, we are headed for another spike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,202 what_traffic
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    Galway market is leisure shopping, not household essentials.

    Stalls were selling Bread, vegtables etc. whats on your househeld essentials list? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 JoeA3
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    Good lord :eek: There's reasonable care and caution and then there is hysterical paranoia.

    Another spike? Did we have a first spike?

    Supermarkets have been doing a roaring trade since this started. I know people who own a SuperValu supermarket/hardware and its been like Christmas season for them for 9-10 weeks running. They employ 30-40 staff, all working throughout. None of their staff have contracted the virus. As far as they're aware, no customer has either. I don't recall any news reports of any clusters originating in supermarkets anywhere, nationwide. The queuing outside of supermarkets is tokenism. Once inside, people tend to loiter around like they always did... yet we don't hear of people dropping like flies in the supermarkets, do we?

    The ultra cautious CMO himself has admitted the situation is largely nullified in the general community. Most new cases appear to be coming from clusters, whether its nursing homes or meat factories. The media will report that Galway has ~450 cases, but we also know that approx 85% of known cases nationwide have recovered. So lets say there's 100 cases in total in this county... 0.0004% of the county's population.

    Hysterical reports of people trying to go about their normal business as best they can, whether it is shopping or exercise is completely over the top. Given where we are, with new case numbers dwindling and people's lives being on hold for 10 weeks now (and jobs lost, etc, etc), there has to be some balance and perspective applied to it surely.


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    JoeA3 wrote: »


    Hysterical reports of people trying to go about their normal business as best they can, whether it is shopping or exercise is completely over the top. Given where we are, with new case numbers dwindling and people's lives being on hold for 10 weeks now (and jobs lost, etc, etc), there has to be some balance and perspective applied to it surely.

    This is exactly how we undo all the work we have done to keep the virus contained. Now is not the time for complacency, it's time to completely drive the virus out. We should not imo have eased things at all yet, we should still be in full lockdown.

    Think of it this way, we not have more cases and more deaths per day than when we locked down in the first place, how does it make sense to ease things when we are worse than when we started or how are people so naive as to think "we are over the worst". This is complacency and stupidity, I can't understand how intelligent people can not see this.

    Making a deal about lives being on hold for 10 weeks?? Like it's incomprehensible how this is even mentioned when we are talking about live and death from the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 JoeA3
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    This is exactly how we undo all the work we have done to keep the virus contained. Now is not the time for complacency, it's time to completely drive the virus out. We should not imo have eased things at all yet, we should still be in full lockdown.

    Think of it this way, we not have more cases and more deaths per day than when we locked down in the first place, how does it make sense to ease things when we are worse than when we started or how are people so naive as to think "we are over the worst". This is complacency and stupidity, I can't understand how intelligent people can not see this.

    Making a deal about lives being on hold for 10 weeks?? Like it's incomprehensible how this is even mentioned when we are talking about live and death from the virus.


    I, on the other hand, cannot understand how supposed intelligent people have lost all sense of reason and perspective and can see no alternative beyond locking themselves away for eternity.

    People who don't align with your views are not stupid Nox. They have a different opinion to you, they have different perspectives and risk adverseness to you. They may have very real concerns in life that the current pandemic is massively impacting upon them, whether its personal, medical or economic. That does not make them stupid. This is something you seem to struggle to grasp.

    Zero deaths reported today thankfully. We are emerging from this, the restrictions will continue to ease and I don't believe there will be second waves or spikes or whatever you want to call it. I'm sure you'll at least be hopeful that I'm right with that opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 Irish Praetorian
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    He is a pain in the hole at the best of times, not surprised to see him in the “opened it up and feck the consequences” camp on this.


    As someone who only recognizes him from occasional puff pieces in the local newspaper, what exactly is the story here? Has he some deep track record of controversy I'm missing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 JoeA3
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    As someone who only recognizes him from occasional puff pieces in the local newspaper, what exactly is the story here? Has he some deep track record of controversy I'm missing?

    He caused some controversy years ago around Race week time, he made some derogatory remarks about the typical races crowd - people making last second cancellations to restaurant bookings, or worse - not showing up at all, urinating outside his premises, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 Smegging hell
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    JoeA3 wrote: »
    He caused some controversy years ago around Race week time, he made some derogatory remarks about the typical races crowd - people making last second cancellations to restaurant bookings, or worse - not showing up at all, urinating outside his premises, etc.


    Hard to disagree with his frustration about people booking and not showing up, but yeah his means of expression tend to be a bit colourful. https://twitter.com/mistereatgalway/status/494953173296349184


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 Whereisgalway
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    JoeA3 wrote: »
    He caused some controversy years ago around Race week time, he made some derogatory remarks about the typical races crowd - people making last second cancellations to restaurant bookings, or worse - not showing up at all, urinating outside his premises, etc.

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gogirl/24034031


    I find these great


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    As someone who only recognizes him from occasional puff pieces in the local newspaper, what exactly is the story here? Has he some deep track record of controversy I'm missing?

    His dislike for the races immediately made me dislike him and he has come out with plenty of other stuff since that I wouldn’t be in agreement with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 cooperguy
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    This is exactly how we undo all the work we have done to keep the virus contained. Now is not the time for complacency, it's time to completely drive the virus out. We should not imo have eased things at all yet, we should still be in full lockdown.

    Think of it this way, we not have more cases and more deaths per day than when we locked down in the first place, how does it make sense to ease things when we are worse than when we started or how are people so naive as to think "we are over the worst". This is complacency and stupidity, I can't understand how intelligent people can not see this.

    Making a deal about lives being on hold for 10 weeks?? Like it's incomprehensible how this is even mentioned when we are talking about live and death from the virus.

    The epidemiologists, who are also intelligent people, disagree. There is almost no community transmission now. A slow reopening combined with testing and contact tracing is the way to go. Ignoring the bigger picture of having a functioning economy is an easier mindset to take but ignores the practicalities of needing a working economy to unlock people into...
    Hard to disagree with his frustration about people booking and not showing up, but yeah his means of expression tend to be a bit colourful. https://twitter.com/mistereatgalway/status/494953173296349184

    I completely agree with his sentement here to be honest. People who screw over a restaurant like that deserve no sympathy. They are low margin businesses.


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    cooperguy wrote: »
    I completely agree with his sentement here to be honest. People who screw over a restaurant like that deserve no sympathy. They are low margin businesses.

    What about people who screw in the restaurant. https://www.independent.ie/life/food-drink/food-news/ive-found-plenty-of-my-staff-having-sex-in-the-restaurant-irish-michelin-star-chef-jp-mcmahon-35088841.html
    The stuff he says always has to be distilled down to remove the self serving propaganda.


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    phelant wrote: »
    What about people who screw in the restaurant. https://www.independent.ie/life/food-drink/food-news/ive-found-plenty-of-my-staff-having-sex-in-the-restaurant-irish-michelin-star-chef-jp-mcmahon-35088841.html
    The stuff he says always has to be distilled down to remove the self serving propaganda.


    TMI, JP!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 Whereisgalway
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    TMI, JP!

    Is he the head chef in any of his restaurants or just a front man and give zero credit to his chefs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 MidlanderMan
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    He's spent the entire duration of the crisis having a pity party and personalising the measures introduced as if they were direct attempts by health officials to annoy him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 cooperguy
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    phelant wrote: »
    What about people who screw in the restaurant. https://www.independent.ie/life/food-drink/food-news/ive-found-plenty-of-my-staff-having-sex-in-the-restaurant-irish-michelin-star-chef-jp-mcmahon-35088841.html
    The stuff he says always has to be distilled down to remove the self serving propaganda.

    Its an odd story but im not seeing your point.

    Either point actually, you dont have to "distill down" what he's been saying to remove propaganda. He's saying quite clearly that certain levels of social distancing makes his restaurants uneconomic. Its not some sort of cryptic message or story with hidden benefit to himself...
    He's spent the entire duration of the crisis having a pity party and personalising the measures introduced as if they were direct attempts by health officials to annoy him.

    That's a bad take as far as I can see. He spends half his time on Instagram posting recipes. Surely, as a restaurant owner with some level of visibility he should be advocating for small restaurants and what makes them viable, especially since so many are on a knife edge at the best of times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 Wompa1
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    More should be done about rents if the people who own the premises where these businesses who cannot operate are based are not giving them a break.

    That's one area I think the Government has failed on. They just put it out in the ether that the banks SHOULD give mortgage relief. The banks then just pointed at their existing programs that don't offer much assurance. They also suggested there would be no evictions during this but there have been multiple businesses kicked out of their spaces by greedy sh1thead landlords.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,463 Mrs OBumble
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    Wompa1 wrote: »
    ... but there have been multiple businesses kicked out of their spaces by greedy sh1thead landlords.

    Can you name them please? I'm seeing very few which have left their premises so far.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,470 Whereisgalway
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    Can you name them please? I'm seeing very few which have left their premises so far.

    Upwards only rents are one of the worst things ever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 Wompa1
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    Can you name them please? I'm seeing very few which have left their premises so far.

    Sure thing.

    https://twitter.com/Joey_Cabray/status/1251080245974835201

    Over the Top Rope Wrestling who cannot hold shows anymore (they usually hold shows in Dublin and Belfast mainly but have also had shows in Galway, Waterford, Cork etc.)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dispute-over-lease-sees-storehouse-of-ranelagh-cafe-removed-1.4257442

    and also Nick's Coffee. They came in to start to dismantle the store without a court order. The cafe owner was told about the dismantling and plan by the landlord the first week of the lockdown when it would be impossible to move elsewhere.

    Sorry, I tried to include the embeds but Cloudflare on the site said it was blocked.


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    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Sure thing.

    https://twitter.com/Joey_Cabray/status/1251080245974835201

    Over the Top Rope Wrestling who cannot hold shows anymore (they usually hold shows in Dublin and Belfast mainly but have also had shows in Galway, Waterford, Cork etc.)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dispute-over-lease-sees-storehouse-of-ranelagh-cafe-removed-1.4257442

    and also Nick's Coffee. They came in to start to dismantle the store without a court order. The cafe owner was told about the dismantling and plan by the landlord the first week of the lockdown when it would be impossible to move elsewhere.

    Sorry, I tried to include the embeds but Cloudflare on the site said it was blocked.

    Not Galway related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 Wompa1
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    Not Galway related
    More should be done about rents if the people who own the premises where these businesses who cannot operate are based are not giving them a break.

    That's one area I think the Government has failed on. They just put it out in the ether that the banks SHOULD give mortgage relief. The banks then just pointed at their existing programs that don't offer much assurance. They also suggested there would be no evictions during this but there have been multiple businesses kicked out of their spaces by greedy sh1thead landlords
    .

    Did I say it was Galway? The lack of concrete action for mortgage relief and stopping evictions during this period affects all businesses and people. Galwegians included.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 biko
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    This thread is about JP and is about Galway.
    Keep it local.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 gordongekko
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    I've heard a few rumours ( so i wont mention the locations) around pubs that wont be reopening. The leases were up and the landlords pre covid wanted an increase in rent but refused to reduce it once the virus hit. Nothing to say someone else wont take them over. I did also notice a few to let signs around the town which i hadn't noticed before.


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    JoeA3 wrote: »
    I, on the other hand, cannot understand how supposed intelligent people have lost all sense of reason and perspective and can see no alternative beyond locking themselves away for eternity.

    People who don't align with your views are not stupid Nox. They have a different opinion to you, they have different perspectives and risk adverseness to you. They may have very real concerns in life that the current pandemic is massively impacting upon them, whether its personal, medical or economic. That does not make them stupid. This is something you seem to struggle to grasp.

    Zero deaths reported today thankfully. We are emerging from this, the restrictions will continue to ease and I don't believe there will be second waves or spikes or whatever you want to call it. I'm sure you'll at least be hopeful that I'm right with that opinion.


    Hopeful yes but risking my health because of bad habits of others no way, I'm quite happy to increase my chances of avoiding the virus by staying da fuq away from the general public for at least another few weeks


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    Was on Newstalk this morning, no keeping that man happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,262 Geuze
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    Wompa1 wrote: »
    More should be done about rents if the people who own the premises where these businesses who cannot operate are based are not giving them a break.


    I feel comm rents are way too high.

    The EuroGiant on Eglinton street is 2,500 per week.

    (Source: ad for building for sale)


    Retail rents in Galway are higher than Edinburgh and Birmingham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,278 Cheshire Cat
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    Was on Newstalk this morning, no keeping that man happy

    What did he have to say?


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    What did he have to say?

    Not happy about the 90 minutes figures people need more time to enjoy the dining experience. When asked if he moves people along in his restaurants if lied and said no. Wants the social distancing reduces even further. doesn’t think he’ll open aniar cause he can’t fleece irish people the same way he does the yanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,278 Cheshire Cat
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    Not happy about the 90 minutes figures people need more time to enjoy the dining experience. When asked if he moves people along in his restaurants if lied and said no. Wants the social distancing reduces even further. doesn’t think he’ll open aniar cause he can’t fleece irish people the same way he does the yanks

    90 minutes in Cava or Tartare are plenty, but a tasting menu in Aniar will take twice as long.


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