Supermacs

Siobhan82 · 31-05-2020 03:46PM

Well of course charging for meals or uniforms is a joke.
But he definitely has a point in saying that for some it was like winning the lotto.
If you were making 80 - 100€ a week part-time before and now how you're on 350€ a week without working then for many it's looks like a win.

BENDYBINN · 31-05-2020 04:30PM

Siobhan82 wrote: »

Well of course charging for meals or uniforms is a joke.
But he definitely has a point in saying that for some it was like winning the lotto.
If you were making 80 - 100€ a week part-time before and now how you're on 350€ a week without working then for many it's looks like a win.

Of course it’s a win..........that’s life.
For a multimillionaire to try and stop it in order to line his own pocket is meaness and greed at it finest...

80j2lc5y7u6qs9 · 31-05-2020 04:43PM

Siobhan82 wrote: »

Well of course charging for meals or uniforms is a joke.
But he definitely has a point in saying that for some it was like winning the lotto.
If you were making 80 - 100€ a week part-time before and now how you're on 350€ a week without working then for many it's looks like a win.

you must have a very low idea of wealth if 350 euro seems like winning the lottery

Edgware · 31-05-2020 05:04PM

Vita nova wrote: »

Haven't seen you on AH for a while but sure enough you would be back to call people "culchies"... thought you would have moved on / matured at this stage.

He reached that level of maturity in 2015 after his fourth year in sixth class.

fleet_admiral · 31-05-2020 05:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

A simple deposit scheme works well there. Fully refunded when you leave the job and return the uniform

Woke Hogan · 31-05-2020 05:23PM

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Central Services · 31-05-2020 05:24PM

fleet_admiral wrote: »

A simple deposit scheme works well there. Fully refunded when you leave the job and return the uniform

I would think that if the business is not providing lockers and changing facilities then its employees should be invoicing them for storage of uniforms. Storage at their houses.

newuser99999 · 31-05-2020 05:25PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Especially when they’re insisting on specific types of clothing. For example in Dunnes you’re only allowed wear a black dress shirt or a black half zip fleece and black dress shoes, no other type of black shoes allowed.

31-05-2020 05:31PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Also keep in mind a uniform is a business expense so the cost of supplying it is ultimately offset against their tax take anyway.

yabadabado · 31-05-2020 06:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

A work canteen isn't the same as a fast food outlet. What a strange comparison.

If a company was losing so many uniforms that it became an issue its very easy to charge for one over the first few payslips and then return the fee when an employee leaves.

Charging for uniforms is plain wrong and tight fisted.

Woke Hogan · 31-05-2020 06:07PM

yabadabado wrote: »

A work canteen isn't the same as a fast food outlet. What a strange comparison.

If a company was losing so many uniforms that it became an issue its very easy to charge for one over the first few payslips and then return the fee when an employee leaves.

Charging for uniforms is plain wrong and tight fisted.

They shouldn’t charge for any under any circumstances.

LuasSimon · 31-05-2020 06:29PM

Are all Pat McDonaghs poverty wage Supermacs back up and running ? ....our country is becoming full of minimum wage employments and their oligarch rich owners ....can’t be long before McDonagh will be flying people in from the poorest part of Bulgaria like Keelings ... he’ll be able to give them customers left overs and charge them 4 or 5 euro for them , drive up his profits and wealth further ..... Larry Goodman would be proud of his tactics .

Muahahaha · 31-05-2020 06:31PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

There’s not a reason in the world why a company shouldn’t pay for the uniform their employees wear. The company are the ones insisting that the employees wear it and they’re usually branded to the employee wouldn’t wear it away from work. If the company wants them to wear it they should pay it. All of it.

Its really tight stuff by McDonogh, I cant imagine the polo shirts they wear costing more than 7 or 8 euro yet he charges them every week that they work there for them. He's actually making profits off this.

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees. A mate of mine from Galway city was telling me that there is a certain breed from east Galway towns like Loughrea who are exactly like him, he said these people would put any notion of Cavan scabiness to shame.

Woke Hogan · 31-05-2020 06:34PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Its really tight stuff by McDonogh, I cant imagine the polo shirts they wear costing more than 7 or 8 euro yet he charges them every week that they work there for them. He's actually making profits off this.

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees. A mate of mine from Galway city was telling me that there is a certain breed from east Galway towns like Loughrea who are exactly like him, he said these people would put any notion of Cavan scabiness to shame.

Well I’m sure they’re not all bad in Loughrea, it’s not right to tar them all with one brush. I’m growing less and less impressed with Pat McDonagh the more I hear about him, however.

yabadabado · 31-05-2020 06:42PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees.

Whats this about?

Muahahaha · 31-05-2020 06:47PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Well I’m sure they’re not all bad in Loughrea, it’s not right to tar them all with one brush. I’m growing less and less impressed with Pat McDonagh the more I hear about him, however.

no not at all, he just said there is a certain breed or set there that are really tight with money, stuff like people doing work and then them refusing to pay or dragging it out

Woke Hogan · 31-05-2020 06:51PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

no not at all, he just said there is a certain breed or set there that are really tight with money, stuff like people doing work and then them refusing to pay or dragging it out

Everyone I’ve known from Loughrea have been a bit of a miser as well. Tighter than a duck’s arse and grey in demeanour. And poncey. I can’t imagine there’s a lot to do there, to be honest, except keep a close eye on your purse strings.

Muahahaha · 31-05-2020 07:16PM

yabadabado wrote: »

Whats this about?

It was to do with the Joint Labour Agreements (JLAs) which were pay agreements for the most low paid workers in sectors like hotels or fast food restaurants. They were agreements between employers and government but were made locally county by county so could vary.

In Supermacs case (iirc) Pats employees in Kildare were getting minimum wage but time and a half for working a Sunday whereas his Dublin workers were getting time and a third for the same thing. McDonogh didnt like paying his employees a penny above minimum wage so he brought a constitutional case to the High Court and successfully argued it wasnt fair that these agreements could vary by location. The judge agreed with him so overnight those Sunday benefits were wiped out for any new employees.

It went further than that though- the High Court ruling basically overnight thrashed these Joint Labour Agreements for all new low paid employees. It gave incentive to hotels and fast food operators to sideline employees on current contracts and employ new ones on a lesser wage. In total the court ruling effected somewhere in the region of 200,000 of the lowest paid in the country.

jippo nolan · 31-05-2020 07:17PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

no not at all, he just said there is a certain breed or set there that are really tight with money, stuff like people doing work and then them refusing to pay or dragging it out

Some of it spread into Roscommon!

PARlance · 31-05-2020 07:18PM

jippo nolan wrote: »

Some of it spread into Roscommon!

Are they not just poor?

whisky_galore · 31-05-2020 07:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been working in various jobs for the past 45 years. I’ve found that companies with a canteen charged for a meal, so why not fast food outlets.
Many companies charge for uniforms, mainly because some new employees decide that they don’t want to work there and leave with the uniform, at a cost to the company.

Who is going to walk off with a fast food uniform and wear it outside of work anyhow? It's not like they get them from Louis Copeland or it's a criminal offense to impersonate a burger flipper.

jippo nolan · 31-05-2020 07:21PM

PARlance wrote: »

Are they not just poor?

Just the poor mouth!

LuasSimon · 31-05-2020 07:51PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Who is going to walk off with a fast food uniform and wear it outside of work anyhow? It's not like they get them from Louis Copeland or it's a criminal offense to impersonate a burger flipper.

Supermacs staff could wear their uniform sitting on the ground begging after their shift , at least those passing by would genuinely know they have nothing and whatever they collect would be for basic provisions not drugs although pat Mcdonagh might drive them to it .

The classic working poor outfit - Supermacs uniform

hurler32 · 31-05-2020 07:56PM

The whole covid will see us all make changes , two of mine are
1. Never to buy from Keelings strawberries slave operations .
2. Never to support Supermacs poverty wage outlets .

Homelander · 31-05-2020 08:02PM

hurler32 wrote: »

2. Never to support Supermacs poverty wage outlets .

I mean by all means boycott Supermacs because Pat McDonagh is a maniac, because staff aren't treated well, or even just because their food is bad, but the above doesn't really make much sense unless you plan boycotting a considerable majority of retail outlets surely.

Mad_maxx · 31-05-2020 08:28PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Its really tight stuff by McDonogh, I cant imagine the polo shirts they wear costing more than 7 or 8 euro yet he charges them every week that they work there for them. He's actually making profits off this.

Anyway it shouldnt really surprise anyone, McDonogh has always been a cute hoor. He took a High Court case in 2011 to actually reduce the pay of his own employees. A mate of mine from Galway city was telling me that there is a certain breed from east Galway towns like Loughrea who are exactly like him, he said these people would put any notion of Cavan scabiness to shame.

Galway folk are incredibly greedy in my experience

Osborne · 31-05-2020 08:45PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

Can you point to any that are actually local franchises? As in legit franchises not under control of Supermacs?

Claremorris, Ballindine and Ballinrobe.

joebloggs32 · 31-05-2020 08:58PM

hurler32 wrote: »

The whole covid will see us all make changes , two of mine are
1. Never to buy from Keelings strawberries slave operations .
2. Never to support Supermacs poverty wage outlets .

In every country the cost of living is dictated by what the level of pay is given to workers who perform in jobs with basic or low skills providing g us with goods (keelings) and services (supermacs).
We could set the minimum wage at €20 per hour, but the same workers would still be paid poorly relative to people with professional qualifications and trades.
The cost of goods and services would rocket as those who provide said goods and services would all be getting paid €20 p/h. So any extra income earned would go be swallowed up and you're back to square one. The cost of living is the enemy of the low paid worker.

Unless you want a communist society, there will always be workers who will be paid at the lowest level, doing jobs that will be commensurate to their skills and qualifications.

RandomViewer · 31-05-2020 10:58PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Are all Pat McDonaghs poverty wage Supermacs back up and running ? ....our country is becoming full of minimum wage employments and their oligarch rich owners ....can’t be long before McDonagh will be flying people in from the poorest part of Bulgaria like Keelings ... he’ll be able to give them customers left overs and charge them 4 or 5 euro for them , drive up his profits and wealth further ..... Larry Goodman would be proud of his tactics .

Get a few caravans off the cousins😊

FVP3 · 31-05-2020 11:35PM

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Are you serious? Supermacs is absolutely disgusting. Yes I'm a Dub the fact you defend them shows maybe Dubs have a finer taste for food

I found nothing wrong with their burger. I don't do fast food anymore but by far the worst burger is the cheap Macdonalds one. Of course that's because it is so cheap they keep reducing the meat.

Supermacs

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