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Pippa Hackett

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  • 25-07-2020 12:22pm
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    Patrick2010
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    A year ago she scraped in as a Councillor on the 7th count in Offaly. After 3 months she was put in the senate by Eamonn Ryan on 68k.
    Meanwhile her husband got her Councillor seat without having to stand for election.
    Pippa runs in the general election but failed.
    Then Eamonn decided Pippa was so talented she should now be a super junior minister on 123k, not bad for an unelected TD.
    Snouts in trough?


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    Edgware
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    A year ago she scraped in as a Councillor on the 7th count in Offaly. After 3 months she was put in the senate by Eamonn Ryan on 68k.
    Meanwhile her husband got her Councillor seat without having to stand for election.
    Pippa runs in the general election but failed.
    Then Eamonn decided Pippa was so talented she should now be a super junior minister on 123k, not bad for an unelected TD.
    Snouts in trough?

    Plenty of family groups in the Greens getting their heads in to the trough. No oul take the average industrial wage ****e either from them


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    Yurt2
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    The cooption of relatives into council seats and the hiring as relatives as staffers needs to be stopped by every single party. At the very least the electorate should start punishing the individual polticians who engage in this.

    Enda Kenny promised to halt the relatives getting jobs carry on in FG. In the end nothing was done.

    In many countries the public would not tolerate this behaviour, yet we have a high tolerance for it.


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    Allinall
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    Edgware wrote: »
    Plenty of family groups in the Greens getting their heads in to the trough. No oul take the average industrial wage ****e either from them

    Not one TD ever has only taken the average industrial wage.

    The full salary is what they all get paid.


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    JohnnyFlash
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    The cooption of relatives into council seats and the hiring as relatives as staffers needs to be stopped by every single party. At the very least the electorate should start punishing the individual polticians who engage in this.

    Enda Kenny promised to halt the relatives getting jobs carry on in FG. In the end nothing was done.

    In many countries the public would not tolerate this behaviour, yet we have a high tolerance for it.

    It’s not a big issue, dude. Most of the electorate don’t care about it.


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    Edgware
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    Allinall wrote: »
    Not one TD ever has only taken the average industrial wage.

    The full salary is what they all get paid.
    I know but those honest socially responsible people in Sinn Fein give most of theirs to the Party


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    Yurt2
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    It’s not a big issue, dude. Most of the electorate don’t care about it.

    If you say so. Dude.

    FG are among the worst offenders for this carry on and you know it. Enda Kenny was apparently livid when the last government was formed and a tonne of relatives were hired as staffers / drivers etc.


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    KiKi III
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    A year ago she scraped in as a Councillor on the 7th count in Offaly. After 3 months she was put in the senate by Eamonn Ryan on 68k.
    Meanwhile her husband got her Councillor seat without having to stand for election.
    Pippa runs in the general election but failed.
    Then Eamonn decided Pippa was so talented she should now be a super junior minister on 123k, not bad for an unelected TD.
    Snouts in trough?

    Is she a good person? Is she intelligent? Is she hard working? Is she articulate?


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    Abel Ruiz
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    Is she a good person? Is she intelligent? Is she hard working? Is she articulate?

    Do you have to defend every female ever????
    Bizarre


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    suicide_circus
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    Politics is a grubby little business.


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    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Abel Ruiz wrote: »
    Do you have to defend every female ever????
    Bizarre

    I didn’t actually defend her. I asked some questions about her because I don’t know anything about her.

    I’m curious as to whether she has the qualities to carry out the role she’s been given well. That’s what I’m most interested in public representatives.

    What’s bizarre is that you’d interpret a few relevant questions as being purely about her gender. Why bring that into it?


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    touts
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    The Greens are a very family friendly party.

    If your family is Martin or Hackett that is. Then it's jobs all round.


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    taytobreath
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    I thought pbp take the industrial wage


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    RandomViewer
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    It’s not a big issue, dude. Most of the electorate don’t care about it.

    They do, good candidates overlooked because the half witted offspring of some political dynasty wants a go


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    touts
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    taytobreath wrote: »
    I thought pbp take the industrial wage

    And if you believe that one I've a bridge in New York I think you might be interested in buying.


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    RandomViewer
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    Is she a good person? Is she intelligent? Is she hard working? Is she articulate?

    She's a member of the Green party, not known for any of the above


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    Patrick2010
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    Is she a good person? Is she intelligent? Is she hard working? Is she articulate?

    Was she elected? Or was the position advertised? Or can politicians just give out jobs to anyone they like and the taxpayers will cover the bill?


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    KiKi III
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Was she elected?

    Elected unopposed to the Agricultural Panel of the Seanad according to Wikipedia.


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    One eyed Jack
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Was she elected?


    No she wasn’t elected, she was hired. It’s a silly position in any case because she has no power to vote on anything. €100k to act like the Ministers lap dog? Sure why not if it’s going. Her husband was elected unopposed to Offaly CoCo and there’s not a peep about him this morning.

    Basically going after individuals does nothing to change policies. It’s an issue that’s rife in the civil and public services, not just in Irish life, but in politics in general.


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    rapul
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    Well for some alrite


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    Patrick2010
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    No she wasn’t elected, she was hired. It’s a silly position in any case because she has no power to vote on anything. €100k to act like the Ministers lap dog? Sure why not if it’s going. Her husband was elected unopposed to Offaly CoCo and there’s not a peep about him this morning.

    Basically going after individuals does nothing to change policies. It’s an issue that’s rife in the civil and public services, not just in Irish life, but in politics in general.
    Ah ok, that’s grand then, no point in complaining then


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    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Ah ok, that’s grand then, no point in complaining then

    Complaining about the system makes sense. Reforming the system makes sense. Moaning about individuals who didn’t create the system is futile.


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    One eyed Jack
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    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Ah ok, that’s grand then, no point in complaining then


    Well there isn’t a point in complaining about the behaviour of specific individuals when they haven’t actually done anything wrong.

    If you’re complaining about what enables them to do what they do, then the issue is one of policies, not people.


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    expectationlost
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    taytobreath wrote: »
    I thought pbp take the industrial wage
    I don't think they hand it back the state though same with SF


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    James Brown
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    It’s not a big issue, dude. Most of the electorate don’t care about it.

    Nothing to see here? I can tell you our local FG TD lost her seat and giving her council one to her daughter and hiring family as staff played into it big time.


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    Snow Garden
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    The cooption of relatives into council seats and the hiring as relatives as staffers needs to be stopped by every single party. At the very least the electorate should start punishing the individual polticians who engage in this.

    Enda Kenny promised to halt the relatives getting jobs carry on in FG. In the end nothing was done.

    In many countries the public would not tolerate this behaviour, yet we have a high tolerance for it.

    Enda Kenny and FG promised a lot in the New Politics document. Nothing was achieved.

    He even said they would reform the Seanad but it's as crony and wasteful as ever before.

    Now FFG and the Greens are gorging on taxpayers money while reforming nothing.

    FFG are a cancer in Irish politics and it's spreading across the Dail.


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    StackSteevens
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    Is she a good person? Is she intelligent? Is she hard working? Is she articulate?

    Yes to all four.

    If she ran in my constituency I'd be happy to support her.

    She's the polar opposite of airhead McHugh who was all mouth and no trousers.


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    JohnnyFlash
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    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Enda Kenny and FG promised a lot in the New Politics document. Nothing was achieved.

    He even said they would reform the Seanad but it's as crony and wasteful as ever before.

    Now FFG and the Greens are gorging on taxpayers money while reforming nothing.

    FFG are a cancer in Irish politics and it's spreading across the Dail.

    A cancer!! Jesus, dude, you live in one of the fairest, most wealthy, equal, safe, and decent countries on the planet. Not Somalia.

    Context, my friend. Context.


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    StackSteevens
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    taytobreath wrote: »
    I thought pbp take the industrial wage

    The taxpayer pays every PbP TD their full salary and expenses package.

    Where and how they subsequently decide to spend that large wedge of taxpayers' loot is between them and their God.


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    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    StackSteevens wrote: »
    Yes to all four.

    If she ran in my constituency I'd be happy to support her.

    She's the polar opposite of airhead McHugh who was all mouth and no trousers.

    Had a quick Google. As a farmer who’s extensively educated I’m glad she’s risen quickly through the ranks to where her abilities can make an impact; she seems well qualified for the remit she’s been given.


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    Homelander
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    It does annoy me greatly that she was plonked into the Seanad with barely any political experience and then bumped to Super-Junior despite having been recently rejected by the electorate in the recent election.

    I don't think they should be allowed promote non-TD's to ministerial positions. It's mental that someone can barely scrape into a council seat in their own local area, be rejected by the electorate at the polls, and end up at Cabinet anyway.


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