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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    pawdee wrote: »
    Just go around the Cape of Good Hope? Not that much of a hardship surely!

    Just 30 days sailing through waters prone to piracy, and fuel stops in the most corrupt ports in the world...


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,168 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pawdee wrote: »
    Just go around the Cape of Good Hope? Not that much of a hardship surely!

    just the matter of an extra 4600Nm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭Odelay


    josip wrote: »
    From my rural background, my instinct could be to pull it out from the same direction it went in.
    But all 3 tugs are on the wrong side for that.
    Is that because the tugs are based north of where it grounded and can't get around or would there be other thinking behind what they are trying?

    They’re trying the pushy pushy turnie turnie method.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    This demonstrates how easily those with ill intent can easily shut down one of the world's major shipping choke points. While the world focused on airport security after 9/11, a ship of this size having even the most minor of incidents in the wrong place, lets say off the UK coast, could shut sown the largest ports in Europe for weeks, and hugely impact european Trade. Just look at the panic since the UK stopped becoming a land bridge? Imagine if all the ships that go to Rotterdam, Hamburg or Antwerp, could no longer use the channel because a ship of this size had dumped its load of containers into the water?
    The reliance of the sea lanes as a means of supply is often taken for granted. The ease of which they can be shut down more so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,645 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    This demonstrates how easily those with ill intent can easily shut down one of the world's major shipping choke points. While the world focused on airport security after 9/11, a ship of this size having even the most minor of incidents in the wrong place, lets say off the UK coast, could shut sown the largest ports in Europe for weeks, and hugely impact european Trade. Just look at the panic since the UK stopped becoming a land bridge? Imagine if all the ships that go to Rotterdam, Hamburg or Antwerp, could no longer use the channel because a ship of this size had dumped its load of containers into the water?
    The reliance of the sea lanes as a means of supply is often taken for granted. The ease of which they can be shut down more so.


    Interesting point, but it would be interesting to find anywhere else in the world, apart from some sections of the Panama Canal that would have such a big impact.
    Your Rotterdam-Channel-container example would be a tiny fraction of the inconvenience of this I think.

    • Ships could still make slow way in the Channel.
    • Multiple ships could be brought in to remove the containers.
    • Ships could be diverted to alternative ports.
    • Only Northern Europe would be affected
    Even further up the Suez and they might been able to use the spare channel.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    Imagine if all the ships that go to Rotterdam, Hamburg or Antwerp, could no longer use the channel because a ship of this size had dumped its load of containers into the water?

    I'd imagine though the repercussions of such an incident in the English Channel wouldn't be as harsh as they are now with the Suez canal blocked...

    If 1 of the channels in the English Channel was fouled, could/would they operate a stop/go system like we see on our roads, and go to a single directional lane only, getting outbound traffic to depart at the right time, and inbound traffic to slow on approach to the channel to arrive as the 'gate' opens.. Time the gates with the tides to get traffic through quicker...

    Would still be havoc though!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    It seems to be all tugs that are around it, surely a suction dredge would be available, used for maintenance on the canal? the ship is 16 metres deep, the further out the reach from the Bank the less effective the excavators will be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,645 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Has Musk not offered to free it yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    It seems to be all tugs that are around it, surely a suction dredge would be available, used for maintenance on the canal? the ship is 16 metres deep, the further out the reach from the Bank the less effective the excavators will be.

    There is a suction dredger on its way. In one of the recent satellite shots it looks like a dredger just upstream too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich




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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    yiddo59 wrote: »
    Irish Ferries to charter Blue Star 1. Extra tonnage on the Cherbourg run?

    https://www.niferry.co.uk/irish-ferries-to-charter-greek-ferry-blue-star-1/




    Irish Ferries also said today it would add the RoRo passenger ferry Blue Star 1 to its Rosslare to Pembroke Dock route.



    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0326/1206241-irish-ferries-new-route/


    Irish Ferries must see some potential here, it seems to go against the common avoid the landbridge mentality by Irish hauliers, The Isle of Innishmore is going to operate a new IF service between Dover and Calais.


  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Yakov P. Golyadkin


    scotchy wrote: »
    Still in Dun Laoghaire this evening.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0327/1206508-sailor-repatriation/

    Most of the crew have left.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000



    Handy little end of first quarter sales boost there.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81,267 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Potential for the trawler to end up being auctioned off on the cheap me thinks.


    Good to see the crew getting home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    https://www.thejournal.ie/ellie-adham-rescue-5393581-Mar2021/?amp=1&utm_source=twitter_short&__twitter_impression=true

    Glad to see this hopefully coming to a happy ending. Tough night for the crew.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    I think that article is wrong in saying there are windows knocked in on the trawler, a tug was going to tow it and they blew in windows, they returned to port on their own power.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Looks like the tow line has broken again, no longer under tow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Helicopter hovering directly above and another nearby for cover, at a guess they are taking crew off.
    Boat is listing, taking crew off, one helicopter away, presume with some or all of the crew, the second one is on scene now


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    I think that article is wrong in saying there are windows knocked in on the trawler, a tug was going to tow it and they blew in windows, they returned to port on their own power.

    Correct, the tug had the windows knocked in. Sounds treacherous enough now with the crew being airlifted but glad all are safe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,267 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Hopefully the boat can be saved, always loved the rather flash paint design on it...
    astillerosriadeaviles-ellie_adham_01-1.jpg
    https://www.shipyards.es/en/ellie-adhamh-2


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    Looking at marine traffic the GB Shaw was doing 19 knots towards castletown 5 hours ago. Wonder have they abandoned the trawler altogether now. It's a dirty night out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    It looks like the tug nomad is trying to get her under tow, the gb Shaw might need to head for a damage assessment, there may have been a collision while trying to get the tow line connected.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Unfortunately the boat sank around midday, thankfully no lives lost, a big blow for the crew, owners etc in a very uncertain time for the industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    Unfortunately the boat sank around midday, thankfully no lives lost, a big blow for the crew, owners etc in a very uncertain time for the industry.

    Very big blow but thankfully all safe. Cheers for the info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Jim Gazebo wrote: »
    Very big blow but thankfully all safe. Cheers for the info.

    They have had some ordeal, under tow by another fishing vessel but after the tow line broke they had to abandon the tow, a tug that was on the way back from Spain was diverted, they hit a rogue wave that put in their front windows with such a volume of water that it blew out the wheelhouse door at the back, luckily no one hurt and able to return to port with emergency controls, the lifeboat went out to standby the tug. The gb Shaw went to take the boat under tow but with atrocious conditions and a collision had difficulty to get the line across and the lifeboat was sent out to get the line over.
    At some stage yesterday it was decided to get the crew off,the boat had taken a bad list, 4 liferafts were lost in attempts to get them off, 1 helicopter failed and eventually a winch woman managed to get aboard with extreme bravery. A big shout out to the rescue services for going above and beyond.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    Main thing is everyone got home safe.
    We don't pay any of those involved in the rescue nearly enough.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A very difficult operation in extremely hazardous conditions. It does however highlight once again how we, as an island nation, cannot offer the correct level of protection to our waters, our coastline and our environment.

    The next Irish naval vessel should look like this, so when that little fishing boat becomes a ferry, container ship or nuclear submarine, we have the ability to deal effectively and professionally with the job.

    new_ml150003070.jpg?mh=447&mw=980&thn=0&hash=05194D549F2DF35BA3921A8366B9B1B8727CEBFD


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Ever given seems to be on the move, listing a bit to port though.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Could they not have diverted one of the three large ocean going Oil Rig/Tug vessels from the Kinsale Gas Platform to tow the Trawler, they are pretty big and well equipped and it would have been no problem to them maybe slow in the conditions but they probably would have saved her they were not very far from the Trawlers position.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    I don;t believe there are any large tugs as part of the current operations at the Kinsale field, just supply boats to take the offloaded components ashore. However, there'd be questions over why the NS couldn't do the job and are they not fit for purpose etc. etc. Even if it means we will damage a naval ship in the process, we send these lads out to tow stricken vessels (including that burning Canadian sub off the NW coast that time).

    Ships in danger need the right type of vessel to rescue them, in all weathers.

    awash%20bergen%2016x9.jpg

    awash%20bergen%202.jpg

    Bergen%20rigging.jpg

    vikingfjord%20from%20bergen.jpg

    https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/grounding-narrowly-averted-off-norway


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