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    #1292
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,739 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Well he only used for them for his kettle bells, and I only use them for pull ups on that bar/support beam in the photo, which is rough as all hell. Get what you pay for. Hard to find quality stuff here. Thankfully, my barbell is ok.

    I think my humour is lost on you. I was taking the piss out of lifting gloves. As Arnie once said, if you’re going to wear lifting gloves, make sure they match your purse :)


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    #1293
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    If a person gave me lifting gloves I wouldn’t consider them a friend

    You're clearly not a break dancer.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #1294
    new2tri19
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭new2tri19


    I don't ever remember my knees been so noisy , just squatting down or walking down the stairs it's like a series of small crackling sounds . Is this a side effect of weight lifting , it wasn't that bad before lifting. There is zero pain in any position . Does anyone else suffer from this ?


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    #1295
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,517 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    By all accounts, noisy knees are not a problem unless there is also pain. Don't know the actual causes of the noise.

    But if there is pain, best see a professional. Until then, there's no getting off the gain train


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    #1296
    markmoto
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    new2tri19 wrote: »
    I don't ever remember my knees been so noisy , just squatting down or walking down the stairs it's like a series of small crackling sounds . Is this a side effect of weight lifting , it wasn't that bad before lifting. There is zero pain in any position . Does anyone else suffer from this ?


    This video below will explain better but if you're over 35yo I wouldn't recommend lifting anything too heavy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ccOa_xIQM


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    #1297
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    This video below will explain better but if you're over 35yo I wouldn't recommend lifting anything too heavy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ccOa_xIQM

    What do you mean by "too heavy"?

    they/them/theirs


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    #1298
    markmoto
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    Brian? wrote: »
    What do you mean by "too heavy"?

    If you're over 35yo and not train professionally doing less than 20 reps first set that's too heavy.


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    #1299
    new2tri19
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭new2tri19


    That video was really good thanks , it seems no pain no problem thanks


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    #1300
    new2tri19
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭new2tri19


    markmoto wrote: »
    If you're over 35yo and not train professionally doing less than 20 reps first set that's too heavy.

    Do you mean warm up with 20 light reps then start working sets ?


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    #1301
    markmoto
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    new2tri19 wrote: »
    Do you mean warm up with 20 light reps then start working sets ?

    Sorry I mean First working set weight, if you cant do 20 reps or more that's too heavy for 35yo and over who never trained professionally.


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    #1302
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    How you warm up is one thing, the other and more important side is building up more redundancy in this case knees so that your activities dont lead to knee pain

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    #1303
    Cill94
    Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Joints can make all kinds of weird and wonderful noises. Not an issue unless you’re experiencing pain.

    35 year olds can lift heavy. 90 year olds can lift heavy. Heavy is relative.


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    #1304
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    If you're over 35yo and not train professionally doing less than 20 reps first set that's too heavy.

    I would like to see your justification for this.


    Because, IMO is a gross generalisation and nobody likes those.

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    #1305
    markmoto
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    Brian? wrote: »
    I would like to see your justification for this.


    Because, IMO is a gross generalisation and nobody likes those.

    Age-related changes in collagen.
    Declines can cause ligaments tendons bones and cartilage to become less flexible and more brittle over time.


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    #1306
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    Age-related changes in collagen.
    Declines can cause ligaments tendons bones and cartilage to become less flexible and more brittle over time.

    That’s correct. But why randomly pick 20 reps and 35 years old?

    I’ve been training heavy for 20 years and see no reason to stop

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    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #1307
    markmoto
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    Brian? wrote: »
    That’s correct. But why randomly pick 20 reps and 35 years old?

    I’ve been training heavy for 20 years and see no reason to stop

    You don't have to. My recommendation for over 35yo who at some point decide to change lifestyle and go to the gym first time in years.

    And if you think 35 is random I am sure you can do little research. Perhaps start with bodybuilding.com forum.

    Full stop no further replies for the same question, sorry.


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    #1308
    Cill94
    Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Cill94


    markmoto wrote: »
    Age-related changes in collagen.
    Declines can cause ligaments tendons bones and cartilage to become less flexible and more brittle over time.

    Yes, but that simply means that training has to be matched to their ability levels. No evidence to support the idea that older people can’t lift weights that are highly challenging. For an eldery woman that could be an empty barbell. It’s still heavy for her.


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    #1309
    the baby bull elephant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    Noted source of scientific literature, the bodybuilding.com forums.


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    #1310
    markmoto
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    People only hear what they want to hear. Your life your choice.


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    #1311
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really don't understand the "professionally" part. Like what I can workout for two more years and then bam I need to be able to do 20 reps of the weight because I'm not a soccer player or wrestler?


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    #1312
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Not only is lifting safe after 35, it is safe at any age provided it is approached in an appropriate manner.

    I'd go further than just saying resistance training is safe, I'd say barbell training is safe. You can scale or modify exercises as required and be precise in terms of loading, sets, reps and training frequency.

    I am laughing as I type this at the idea that many 35 year old are contraindicated from continuing - or even beginning - resistance training, but actually my experience is that even people 55 and up can do it safely.

    There is no more potent way to improve strength, muscular endurance, balance and body composition than include resistance training in a fitness regimen.

    The sooner someone begins the sooner they can address major issues for the older population around bone and muscle loss - particularly older women. It's crucial for encouraging independent living and resistance to accident and injury in an older population.

    We're all on a trajectory of decline as we get older. Losing muscle mass, losing bone density, our cartilage deteriorating and various changes in hormones and endocrine function. But that's precisely why we should train, comical to suggest that the situation we are trying to mitigate should be the reason we are precluded from training.

    What is lacking isn't even evidence that resistance training is safe and beneficial to populations far older than 35, what's lacking is precisely how to train them best, and long term outcomes.


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    #1313
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    You don't have to. My recommendation for over 35yo who at some point decide to change lifestyle and go to the gym first time in years.

    And if you think 35 is random I am sure you can do little research. Perhaps start with bodybuilding.com forum.

    Full stop no further replies for the same question, sorry.

    If that’s your answer, I’m going to dismiss your opinion as nonsense.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #1314
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    People only hear what they want to hear. Your life your choice.

    I hear lots of things. Which is why it’s important to challenge all opinions and look for supporting evidence. You don’t have any, so what you say can be dismissed easily.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #1315
    bladespin
    Registered Users Posts: 7,335 ✭✭✭bladespin


    My orthopaedic consultant recommended recommended a higher rep range for joint health, she said 5-10 was fine, nothing like 20, she also said I could happily train until I didn't want to - age was not a limiter.


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    #1316
    calfmuscle
    Registered Users Posts: 746 ✭✭✭calfmuscle


    We start to lose muscle mass from 30 years of age onwards.
    Weightlifting and resistance training is absolutely indicated and advisable to counter act this. To suggest you can't lift heavy (which as said is subjective) is ridiculous and frankly bad advice.


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    #1317
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users Posts: 31,823 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Brian? wrote: »
    If that’s your answer, I’m going to dismiss your opinion as nonsense.

    Fair play for not dismissing his opinion sooner. Some daft stuff written here the past few weeks.


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    #1318
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Fair play for not dismissing his opinion sooner. Some daft stuff written here the past few weeks.

    Sometimes people struggle to get their point across, but they have something worth listening to. Not in this case it seems.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #1319
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,561 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    the baby bull elephant wrote: »
    Noted source of scientific literature, the bodybuilding.com forums.

    Makes a change from linking studies that they didn't understand and said different things to the point they were trying to make.


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    #1320
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,561 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    new2tri19 wrote: »
    I don't ever remember my knees been so noisy , just squatting down or walking down the stairs it's like a series of small crackling sounds . Is this a side effect of weight lifting , it wasn't that bad before lifting. There is zero pain in any position . Does anyone else suffer from this ?

    I was with a physio for something else a few years ago and was doing a squat and my knees were like bubble wrap being trampled on. He said unless it's sore, there's no issue.


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    #1321
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 20,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    I was with a physio for something else a few years ago and was doing a squat and my knees were like bubble wrap being trampled on. He said unless it's sore, there's no issue.

    Conversely, my knees are silent and I’ve had 2 surgeries on the left

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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