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The Other Pandemic - Cocaine

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I know you're being facetious but there is a coke vaccine in development. Once you receive inoculation cocaine will no longer trigger the reward receptors in the brain rendering it pointless.


    https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2020/02/duke-university-cocaine-vaccine-far-fetched-addiction-researchers



  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Tomaldo


    Buried, not everyone wants to live til they're 100, my late father had Alzheimers and the only drug he took was alcohol.



  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Tomaldo


    So ur a scumbag if u enjoy yourself by doing something that doesn't affect u or anybody else. If I rob someone's house, then yes, I am a scumbag but if I snort coke, I'm not 'cos it doesn't affect anybody adversely.



  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Tomaldo, you're neither a lauded playwright or a brilliant mathematician and physicist, a talented songwriter or a rock legend. You're posting on Boards at 1:30 in the morning arguing that taking cocaine isn't a stupid thing to be doing. Now I'll accept that not everyone who takes cocaine is an idiot under normal circumstances, but I think it's fair to say that there's a whole load of idiots who like to take cocaine and think they're smarter than they really are.

    I think it's also pretty common to find that those who most vocally support the consumption of Class A narcotics for recreational purposes, ignoring the cost to the people and communities caught up in the drug trade from end-to-end, are usually some of the biggest scumbags one will encounter. They're pretty easy to recognise. They're the ones who think taking cocaine is okay. There may be a spectrum of sorts, but it's essentially a spectrum of scumbags, from just a bit of a scumbag all the way to a full blown scumbag.



  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Well, the way this works is that if you snort cocaine, you're a scumbag. If you think it doesn't adversely effect anybody, you're an idiot:


    TABLE: Colombia Drug War Human Toll – 1958-2013

    Total Number of Victims 

    Casualties (0f which fighters: 40,787)  218,094                    

    Civilians killed  177,307

    People abducted    27,023

    Victims of enforced disappearances    25,007

    Victims of anti-personnel mines    10,189

    People displaced total(low/high estimates: 4,744,046–5,712,506) 5,350,000

    Children displaced2,300,000

    Children killed    45,000

    Missing children (since 1985)      8,000


    https://impakter.com/cocaine-hidden-cost/



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  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Without even getting into the evil supply chain and the ethics of that (which should be enough to put anyone off), I've watched regular use of it turn decent people into fulltime ar5eholes. I think it fecks up people's personalities in seriously damaging ways.



  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Tomaldo


    u can't be a Clever Trevor if u don't know the difference between Affect and Effect, one is a verb, the other is a noun, u mixed the 2 up. Secondly ur stats enhance my argument for legalization but u forgot to mention Mr Escobar, he was killed over a quarter century ago, but cocaine is still here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Tomaldo


    I agree "The Evil Supply Chain" that's exactly why it should be legalized and who are you to say users are ar5eholes. IMO people who say that are what Del Boy might say are 24 carat AHoles. How did it affect McCartney's personality, he is a God.



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]



    Pointing to popular entertainers as some sort of defense of cocaine use is pretty weak, IMO. What about the hundreds of thousands of medicore musicians that take cocaine and fail to achieve much success? Is their experience not instructive?

    You need to up your game and invoke the likes of Freud (so that I can say 'well now we know why he thought sexuality was the central force guiding the human psyche').



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    So is fast food, but apparently coke is the devil here.

    It’s not like anyone is being forced to take it.

    And I do not care about the production/ supply chain casualties. These countries would do anything to serve the demand of the industrialised nations. If it wasn’t coke it’d be something else and they would still destroy each other. Human nature.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    People who snort coke are usually some of the thickest fools you will come across in the country. They believe they are interesting when in reality they take coke because they are in no way interesting and have zero personality to speak of.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I don't really have a moral judgement on people who consume coke. I do think it's a bad idea to though. It makes you feel fantastic for a while but it is highly addictive and it does reduce your effectiveness to think deeply, to be patient,humble and selfless. Those attributes are some of the best qualities a human being can have in my opinion. A selfish life is meaningless, you are just a consumer like a cow or other animal. I find it's a drug that enhances selfish tendencies and harms delayed gratification which is very important for achieving larger life goals. It is also very difficult to track how it is changing your personality over time. Health wise it is obviously not very good either. This is all just my opinion as someone who has dabbled in a bit of everything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Frozen Veg


    For those that are taking coke, how do they know what they're taking.


    From my uderstanding, the quality of coke in Ireland is brutal. It's some scum bag that hasn't a clue mixing it.

    Granted if you were in Colombia you might have a fair idea the product is good. But not a hope in hell I'd putting any of the stuff in Ireland in to my body. If these scumbags cooked you a dinner, you'd throw it in the bin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    How would the quality necessarily be any better in Columbia? This makes no sense



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭buried


    Sorry to hear it T. Look I'm not judging anybody that has the want or the need to take it, people can sprinkle it on their corn flakes for all I care. The neurotoxicity effects are what put me off from taking it, and I don't want to live to 100 either.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    I heard Eamon Ryan was delighted that the bags of coal seized by Gardai a few days ago turned out to be cocaine 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,282 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Because the further you get from the source, the more things subsequent dealers have cut it with.

    As a bit of an illustration, would you rather drink fresh water from a stream up in the mountains or the same water when it's in the Liffey?

    I've actually heard the cocaine quality in Ireland is very good as we're one of the first ports on the way into Europe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Not really. Even if it's sourced in the same country someone can corrupt the product easily. You wouldn't drink the cleanest water out of a crusty and dirty glass



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,519 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    When are we having a lockdown for this pandemic ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,282 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The likelihood of it being cut with adulterants grows higher the further you get from the source. It's simple economics.

    Sure, you could get some dodgy cocaine in Columbia, however the likelihood is far lower than it would be further away.

    Same goes for any drug. Most of the hash you get here won't be a patch on the hash you would get in Morocco or Afghanistan. By the time it gets here there's plastic and all sorts in it which had been added along the way. Nobody in Morocco or Afghanistan is smoking hash with plastic in it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Yes, naturally. But the poster I had responded to had alluded that the quality was automatically better if obtained close to the source, which is not necessarily true.



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Absolutely ridiculous post. How exactly are you a scumbag for taking Coke? It’s people’s personal choice, some will abuse it and some others won’t. Grow up



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,282 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ah, we're just arguing linguistic semantics at this stage! :D

    The probability of a batch of cocaine making it all the way from Columbia to Ireland and remaining purer than the majority of cocaine is Columbia is very very low.

    I'm sure it happens, but the likelihood is that it would be purer closer to the source.

    So one could almost assume by sheer mathematical probability that the cocaine you take in Columbia would be better.

    As an aside, I am not advocating traveling to Columbia to take cocaine :D



  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Might want to take a history lesson mate, are you aware of African community and slavery issues with alcohol production?

    You probably sync a few pints once a week like most others, alcohol is too a drug with a dark history.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭Jequ0n




  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Ridiculous post? Grow up?

    I guess a cocaine user doesn't like being called a scumbag for taking cocaine.

    No surprise there. The fact remains, if you take cocaine, you're a scumbag. Scumbags are never good people. Only a bad person would take cocaine, despite all the excuses they make to themselves or justifications they offer to others. It's right up there with the kind of people who watch underage porn and worse. Satisfaction, no matter the cost to those caught up during the production.

    Only a scumbag would think otherwise.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Alright, lets go the other route. Anyone who drinks alcohol is a scumbag. It's still the biggest killer in the world, and especially here in Ireland. So yeah, if you drink, you're a scumbag. Yeah, makes sense.




  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    As he sits there wearing Nike and/or Adidas clothing stitched in a sweat house with forced child labour - guess that makes you a scumbag too lol

    Grow up kid



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Each to their own, but it'll be fun to see rehab services stretched to its limits in a few years with cokeheads and their issues. Maybe you might be lucky, who knows?

    Enjoy it while you can. I'll have my pint, thanks at least I have a reasonable idea what goes into the production of that. Wonder how many cokeheads are antivax, hmmm?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain




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