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F1 2021 Round 10 : Silverstone

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Bit silly to compare the 2-the video is 3 years old, so Max would have been at most 20, and still learning his craft. He’s matured a lot as a driver over the last 18 months IMO.

    And today Lewis knew exactly what he was doing, it was a desperate manoeuvre to get into first by the end of lap 1 before Max gets a bit of distance between them. Reckless racing, and should have been a bigger penalty.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Question for you, do you think drivers should incur a penalty for correcting damage during a red flag?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    That's nonsense. Hamilton celebrating while Max is in hospital is not a lack of respect. It just hurt Max's ego to see it as he was diddled. He's within his rights to be sour about the race but Lewis isn't supposed to be in mourning, and solemnly collect his trophy until Max is given the all clear.


    Delighted see that Max isn't keeping it classy either. This will get spicy very quickly. Can't wait until they're fighting for the same bit of track again.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Just to add to this, roles reversed Hamilton gives out just like Max is now. It's racing, it's sport.

    Roll on the rest of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Joeface


    I find the commentary on both Channel 4 today and Sky to be silly. Saying Gasly should get a team order to left Perez by and that Kimi shouldn't be racing him .


    If a driver regards of where they are in the championship find themselves at the back no one should be doing them favours other than there own team mate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭Harika


    Kudos to Mercedes to not pit Hamilton and bet on the red flag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Hamilton was at fault for the crash and I think a stop and go would've been a more deserving punishment but it was a marginal call. Max & Hamilton were going at it through every corner, Max forced Hamilton into backing out a couple of corners before but this time Hamilton decided to stick it out.

    As someone said the key factor in apportioning blame in that corner was that Max adjusted his line to allow Hamilton more space and Hamilton got nowhere near the apex.

    Harsh on Max but tbh I think we might see the benefit as fans over the coming races, it will add an extra layer of spice to their rivalry and F1 has been lacking an intense rivalry for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Lewis "max shouldn't be so aggressive "


    Lewis father "don't expect Lewis to ease off the gas"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    Why are Hamilton fans so touchy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭Harika


    Btw did anyone else realise how out of breath Hamilton was? On the celebration, Leclerc definitely was also flat.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/F1/status/1416839689412153351



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    An opinions on the effectiveness of the gravel trap at that corner?

    The car seemed to, what I can only describe as aquaplane, across across the top of the entry to it before taking a jump which saw it glide across the top without any contact with. Maybe it's just the dust and camera angle.

    Is there an issue where if its too deep it can roll the car? Is there a better way to slow the cars on that corner? What about catchment nets or something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    It's not as binary as either being a Lewis fanboy or thinking he's always been disgrace to motorsport and the world should tarnish his achievements for life. There is middle ground.


    Moving on from that, what the hell were Red Bull thinking pitting Perez from 9th for a fastest lap run? Surely its more logical to bank the two points they have then try to steal one from Mercedes-Benz that they won't get for themselves.

    Mercedes-Benz have gained 30 points on Red Bull where it could have been just 29 (assuming Hamilton kept fastest lap) if they left Perez out. If Mercedes-Benz win the constructors by a point, thats going to bite Red Bull in the budget for next year.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i dont understand that either. it would make sence if he went onto soft tyres and only dropped 2 places that he could make up again . he dropped down the order like a stone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i dont think a net would work .

    imagine a groegon crash with a net involved. the driver would be tangled up in it and trapped



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    True and fair point, it probably wouldn't explode into flames if the net stopped the car instead of the barrier though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Maybe they felt he wouldn't get to the end with decent tyres. He was on mediums when he pitted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Tech_Head


    It was to take another point from Hamilton. Perez got the fastest lap and took it from Hamilton. Perez doesn’t get the point as he wasn’t in top 10 but Hamilton doesn’t get it either. Think it was a bit of attempted payback.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,545 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    Just watched the race. How Lewis got such a lenient penalty is beyond me. Absolutely disgraceful

    And then to top it off the celebrating at the end was nothing short of disgusting to be perfectly honest.

    I hope Max doesn’t forget that and gives as good as he got there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 845 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    Whilst there is a lot of money in the constructors championship, the vast majority of the marketing is in the drivers championship. For both Red Bull and Mercedes, F1 is a marketing tool for their other business's, rather than being the main business itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,545 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    You’re telling me you saw nothing wrong with Hamilton’s driving? Whatever Max’s past Hamilton took him out of this race. He knew exactly what he was doing.

    I hope Max goes back to his more aggressive past now in the future and shows Hamilton he won’t stand for it.


    I want to see hard racing but Hamilton crossed the line and he knows it. The celebrations at the end were genuinely sickening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    thats the only logical explination.

    not sure why they didnt wait it out hopeing for a safety car or come in late for softs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Hmm, you are choosing to disregard the present fact that Max turned out to give Hamilton room and instead are looking to the past to suit the narrative.

    There's very little credibility to be gained when justifying something by those means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,974 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    yup exactly, max thought Hamilton would back and was caught when he didnt. advantage Hamilton.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Maybe they felt he wouldn't get to the end with decent tyres. He was on mediums when he pitted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Max had just posted on SM that he has left hospital. If that's only just happened now, that's 7 hours in hospital



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,435 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    I thought this was interesting, some examples from earlier in the season near the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Joeface


    They did say he was dizzy after the accident . I assume they had plenty of head checks to make sure he was ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    A couple of things stood out for me today.


    The 10 sec pen was a joke.

    Being allowed to make repairs under the red flag that you caused shouldnt be allowed without incurring a pen of some sort.

    I Thought that Hamilton’s celebration at the end very ott and jingoistic. How can it be a home Grand Prix for someone who hasn’t lived there by choice for 14 odd years for tax reasons !



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  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A dark day for the sport when you can cause a crash and hospitalise your opponent while you get a free pit stop to fix your damage and go on to win making up 25 points in the WDC.



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