Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Looks like a few dodge weeks into august but after that all guns blazing! Vaccines will win

Lads and lassies this man is the absolute zealot!!! Scally needs to fûck off! Absolutely sick shît Ofnour media giving these cûnts a pedestal to stand on!!

Hope you get better soon.

Numbers are looking crazy again. I don't want another lockdown but it seems like it's all our government do

Ok... deep breath...I can see the following post being contentious but I believe in informed debate and hearing all sides.

It seems that the *AFD have lodged the legal court papers for an injunction against the US secetary for health etc.

whistleblower in house re collating numbers stating 45,000 deaths in the 3 days immediately post vaccination.... on top of a 100s of thousands adverse reactions from minor to disabled for life...they are not anti vaccination but want the court to place caveats on their use eg children U18 those with autoimmune issues and potential ovarys/fertility issues those with a previous covid infection amongst other things.

A huge amount to read and question and discuss in it..I find interesting the section on cohersive mandatory vaccination techniques versus informed consent.

or

https://www.scribd.com/document/516493624/Motion-for-Preliminary-Injunction-File-Stamped

Anyhow for everyones perusal on all sides of all the different issues raised...Iam off to sleep now but hopefully will have some good news re natural immunity to post later.

Good morning may the sunshine bright and it rain at night😊

*apologies put the wrong abbreviation of group name in now corrected.

It's not contentious in most of the world and the consensus is to wait for a lot more data. Only two countries are proceeding with the under 16s anyway.

I didn't read the 65 pages of bs, but a brief skim suggests that is the right choice.

"...substantiated by [someone anonymous], and also by other independent data points considered as part of Plaintiff's due diligence..." - though they don't, of course, elaborate on these.

I'm not denying there is some possibility of underreporting, but that document seems a waste of ink (in the sense of being informative; it is possible a suit would be successful, because the law is an ass, as they say).

There's informed debate and hearing all sides, then there's this..... the same crew that have been pushing an unapproved drug for treatment of covid

I see that after months of sh!tting all over antigen testing they are now saying they will be offering antigen tests to close contacts.

More confused mixed messaging from the powers that be!

Only if we reach a particular level a day. You're also assuming that what NPHET say is what the HSE do. It's their decision and was mentioned at the briefing last week.

Well, the situation on antigen testing is as follows. NPHET will never recommend them and you shouldn't conflate their utter intransigence on this with the actions of the rest of government. Donnelly put together a task force under Ferguson to review them earlier in the year and a more recent one to determine where they can be used. This is the outcome and one the HSE will apply. That's a pretty clear message.

To some members of NPHET yes, they say they are not up to the gold standard of PCR so refuse to recommend them. This is a known position, the only new thing here is the plan to include them in certain circumstances. HSE will not just use them willy nilly, only where there is massive community spread and then only to close contacts. This will happen if case numbers get too high to contact trace effectively. PCR will still be needed for positive antigen tests.

1 in July as far as I recall

Been doing some reading of opinion pieces by various scientists, and the most likely emerging scenario appears to be:

1. Herd immunity won't be possible. It was once potentially possible, but Delta has ended that hope.
2. Covid will be endemic, continuously circulating at low levels. We'll all get Covid, probably several times over the rest of our lives.
3. For newborn children, this will become another cold-causing virus and they will probably not need a vaccination as they will encounter the virus when young. Older children may benefit from it.
4. Vaccinated people will in general get mild illness. They may need occasional boosters, or catching the virus itself will "top them up".
5. People with poor immune systems will need extra protection. Healthcare workers, people in nursing homes etc. will need more frequent boosters to reduce their risk to immune-compromised patients. I don't think there will be much tolerance for unvaccinated staff in these areas.
6. In general there will be more emphasis on respiratory illness just across society, so voluntary mask-wearing by many, people working with (apparently) mind illness, e.g. headcolds, will be discouraged.

Just heard on Newstalk that the hospital number today is 89. Down 12.

20 in ICU- no change.

Looks very steady, given the level of cases being reported.